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We got a rescue dog (5 year old breeder, never house trained, lost den instinct). Who started out not barking and then realized if she did we would get up to take her out (so we would not have to clean up poop in her crate). And then she took advantage of that. We got a barking machine, as I like to call it, that emits a high pitched (annoying to the dog, not painful, inaudible to us) noise everytime she barks. It has cut down the barking SO much. We also put her on a schedule, and I set alarms so that we were taking her out often enough (we did the whole every two hours thing for two weeks because the shelter we got her from said to treat her like a puppy). Now she only barks when she is in her crate if someone upstairs (apartments) makes a noise that scares her, or if I sleep through one of the alarms (I should not do that I know).
Keep doing the so many seconds thing with the door closed stuff. Also, we left treats in our dog's crate when she wasn't looking. So if she went in on her own she would find something good. She goes in all the time now when we walk by and waits for a treat (we don't give them to her just for that anymore, but she still does it lol).
If you remove her water several hours before bed she will not go the bathroom as much. As another PP said when she makes a noise you take her outside. If she ends up not making a noise you set your alarm for every few hours. If you are not giving her water then she can hold it longer at night. The general rule of thumb for a puppy is they can hold it 1 hour for each month of their age.
When you take her out to go pee, you give her a chance to go, but dont let her play so she doesnt learn that barking = outside play time.
Also as PP said, putting a treat in the crate when you put her in will help make it a pleasant place to be for her.
I would also use the crate "for no reason". When you are home and she can see you, I would put her in there for a few minutes with a treat and then open the door for her to come out when she is ready. Then she learns the crate isnt for the "sad" times when its bed time or time for you to leave.
Basically PP have covered everything. Maybe put a shirt of yours in there, and cover the crate so it feels more den like.
@asscherlover: I love the machine idea. You don't thing it would bother Arianymore than her barking already does? We had to put Cambria in the livingroom just so it would be quiet enough that we could get SOME sleep. Then we realized we had left the hedgies wheels in their cages and it was probably driving her nuts too. If it wont annoy the crap out of Ari, I am all for it! Heck that should help with Ari barking at people walking past our apartment too!
And leaving treats in there for her to find wouldn't work because Ari would eat them instead. lol
@Ms Hedgehog: I know it does not bother the dog next door (he still barks just as much :/). And we used a different one when we visited my parents that was not automatic and my parents dog just ignored it. Different dogs respond to it differently. Some stop barking and others don't pay any attention. It does take them a little while to figure out that it makes the noise because they bark. We got one with a "volume setting" which lets you adjust how loud it is for the dog, and we keep it on a pretty low setting. If youre just worried about when she is in the crate at night, you can keep it on a low setting and Ari probably would not hear it because you are in another room. I would keep it on the lowest setting that works anyways. I don't know which model we have, but if you want I can ask FI when he gets home tonight.
I highly recommend (as awful as it may be) to set an alarm clock for every 2-3 hours and take turns letting your puppy outside. The problem with leaving her in the crate all night while you sleep is that she is not going to be able to hold it and eventually, she'll get over soiling in the place that she sleeps, and then crate training (which is dependent upon that instinct) is going to be useless. Puppies that young are like having infants... lots and lots of work, but worth it when she's housebroken and well trained.
I second the shirt idea. Our pup cried all the time in his crate until a friend gave me the idea to put a shirt in there with him that smelled like us. So, a few hours before bed, I'd wear an old t-shirt around the house and then put it in his crate with him. It worked great.
the crate could also be too big--dogs don't like to be near their own waste, so when they're really small as pups, it's good to put a cardboard box in the crate with them to make the space where they roam around smaller
@fembride045: I guess I wasn't clear about that. We do let her out every 2-3 hours. And we do trade off. We did it when Ari was a baby and we do it with her. The problem is she screams for about an hour after we pin her up and about 30 minutes before we let her out. So, we are getting 30 minutes of sleep in intervals. Not good. I told him to get used to it because in about a year we would be doing it all over again except next time, it will be with a baby.
I don't have much experience with crate training because I was a child when my family got our dog, but I do remember that we put the crate in my room & I slept in a sleeping bag on the floor beside the puppy's crate. She didn't cry too much that way, especially if I stuck my fingers in the bars for her to lick.
Might also be easier to take Cambria out that way, too!
@Jenniphyr: That is a possibility. I know one things she might be struggling with is the fact that at the other house, their female dog acted like a mom to her and let her sleep in her crate with her and everything. I don't want to do that because Ari's crate is her own safe place. I don't want to invade that with Cambria. She did look like she was trying to help yesterday and show Cambria that the crate was a good thing because she would go in and lay down with her. But that was in Cambrias crate, not Ari's. Also, I wouldn't want to be locked in a room with a screaming baby that was suddenly thrust on me! So, that isn't an option.
UPDATE:She fell asleep on the floor and we put her in her pen with the door shut and she has been in there, passed out, for about an hour. Love it! Maybe this is a good sign.
We use the PC06G Bark Free Koolatron. It looks like you can get it online for less than $40 + shipping & handling.
A few things that helped us - try putting the crate in your room, next to your bed so she can see you when she (and you go to sleep) so she doesn't feel so isolated. But she'll still get the potty training benefits! The other thing that helped my dog (and you're going to think I'm a nut) is to get one of those sound machines and set it "heartbeat". You can also get free apps (like Whitenoise) if you have an iphone and speakers that will do the same thing. They say that this makes them feel more like they are next to their mother and they will be more comforted! Good luck - that screaming in the crate thing is misery!!
when our youngest pup was very small we bought a kitty crate that allows you to pull the top off. We put a chair beside the bed and took the top off and when he would whine we would reach over and pet him to soothe him. We also put a hot water bottle in there to keep him warm.
his issue may be that he was whelping with the other dog who adopted her and now the pup is cold, lonely and scared. So try small crate, warmth, and somehwere near by so you can soothe it.
We used to feed our dog in his crate- he was 4 months when we got him, but was terrified of his crate. Once we started feeding him in there he realized it was a safe place for him and has no problem going in there now.
Lots of exercise!
Also I don't think there's a way to bypass your pups youth aka frequent potty needs ;)
I also recommend the crate in your room with a towel over the head and some white noise. Make the crate a fun place too! Toys and treats are given and its not just for sleeping and time out but like a special cave/den just for them to make their own space.
Our pup went through some winey times that were extremely challenging. Best thing to do is make sure they don't need to pee first, and then just wait it out. ( the more you give in the more she learns its a way out + attention) Let them bark/wine. We taught the " Shhhhhh' command which means no/stop. Use it everywhere in her training ( at the door telling her to stop and let you go first, when she has something she shouldn't etc etc), so it makes sense for her to stop whatever it is shes doing like the wining.
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I know, I've done this before. But... not really. When we got our first pup (Ari) it was the weekend before our honeymoon. We saw her and knew there was another couple who wanted her if we didn't take her and we were so in love, we had to. Which means she spend the first week with my parents. The first night we had Ari, she cried and cried and screamed and we gave in and let her snuggle in bed with us. We can't do that, nor do we want to do that, with this new puppy(Cambria). Sleeping in our bed is possibly the only real alone time Ari gets with us and Cambria is so little I know she would pee in our bed anyway. So, with Ari it was my parents that really did the first hard week crate training Ari and with Cambria, it's us. Like it should be.
Now, she is only 7 weeks and was taken from her mom at 6. Way too early. But there isn't anything we can do about that. And it isn't her fault. (Or ours. We took her from a family that realized they couldn't handle her this young.)
Last night she cried, no, SCREAMED, all night long. With 30 minute breaks to sleep. Suddenly at 2 she stopped and we passed out. I woke up at 9 and realized I hadn't heard anything from her in 7 hours! 7 week old puppies have to go out to potty every 2! Of course, she peed all over her bed. I can't blame her one bit for that one. So, here is my problem. Letting her scream it out all night is going to have the opposite effect we want for the Pen. We want her to like going there and see it as her bed and safe haven. Ari does with hers. But we can't let her sleep with us or roam around. I am working with her guring the day goving her treats in it, feeding her in it, putting her in it when she is sleepy, and even doing the whole "so many seconds with the door closed" thing. I don't know how many screaming nights I can handle...
HELP!