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I haven't had to deal with this with my parents, also divorced and remarried, aside from letting my mom know what things were important for her to be there. But my brother is planning to skip my rehearsal dinner.
I think the only thing you can do is to tell them how important it is to you and why, acknowledge their concerns/discomfort with being around certain family members, and ask that they compromise and be there longer than just one drink. Then you have to let it go. You can stress and be miserable up to and during the RD, or you can express your feelings and leave it in their court to make the right decision. It stinks, but it would be worse to be stressed and upset from now until the RD.
I'm so SO sorry you're dealing with this. I think you need to be very firm with your dad, make it clear that his decisions are hurting you, that you haven't asked for a great deal, and that he needs to make this about you, not his personal issues. I'm (unfortunately) getting a little emotional about this, because I'm having almost the EXACT same problem, but with my mom and stepdad. My parents have been divorced for 14 years, and they've each been remarried for about 12 years, but my stepdad has this visceral hatred for my father, that I canNOT understand. He has made it very clear that he doesn't want to come to the RD. He asked me not to invited members of his family to the RD--he said that if I did, they would feel OBLIGATED to come, and then he would have to come as well. Whereas, if they weren't at the rehearsal dinner, he and my mom would have to spend time with them elsewhere that evening, since they'd be in a strange town with nothing to do. I told him that I know my stepsisters and my aunt (his daughters and sister) WANT to be there for me in any way that I ask them to, and would not feel obligated to come to my rehearsal dinner...they would want to come, because I asked them to, so tough sh**. He's not happy. If they're at the RD, he has no excuse not to come. I told him he didn't have to show if he didn't want to, but made it clear to my mom that she didn't have the same choice. She doesn't seem to think there's anything wrong with his behavior. They REFUSED to stay at the same hotel as the rest of my family, and when they found out, by chance, that their hotel and the hotel where I'd blocked rooms were close together, they SWITCHED HOTELS. They're nuts. We wanted everyone in our families to meet us at our hotel for breakfast the morning after the wedding, but my mom and stepdad are refusing (my stepsisters and stepaunt are coming, btw). My mom keeps saying they're doing these things to "avoid drama" but she doesn't seem to understand that THIS is the drama. GAH! Why can't parents act like parents?? This is not about them!
Okay, I'm sorry, this thread is not about me, it's about you, but this is a very VERY sore subject for me. I take every opportunity to explain, calmly, to my mother that her decisions are hurtful and are taking away from my wedding weekend, in the hopes that I'll get through to her. I haven't yet, but I keep trying. I think you should do the same. It's important that they know the effect these decisions have on you!
Thanks mrsmdphd - it's nice to know that I'm not the only one dealing with this! I think you (and di5308) are right... all I can do is let them know how I feel. It's just very frustrating. And on top of that, my dad is officiating at my cousin's wedding in July. He asked me a few months ago, and said that she asked him to officate and would that bother me if he accepted. I said no, I thought that would be a nice thing. Then last night I found out that it was actually my stepmother's idea, and that she suggested it to my cousin. It just feels like they are willing to bend over backwards for my dad's side of the family (siblings and neices and nephews), but they can't even put in the effort for me or my sister.
Maybe I'm completely mis-reading the situation, and I would hate to sour your feelings further/make you more upset.... so I am not going to give you my FULL interpretation of the situation. I agree with you completely. It is very hurtful, and I agree with the others here that the only thing you really can do is explain how you feel. You can't make someone do anything, or WANT to do anything for that matter. Having them there against their will could turn out badly.
I would probably be happy with that arrangement, because I would be so mad about it, I wouldn't even want to deal with them that night lol...
I am not a huge fan of guilt trips, and I would not suggest telling them the things you feel in order to get your way, but I don't think keeping your feelings bottled up about this will improve the situation for you either.Sometimes people are too selfish to REALLY understand how their decisions affect others. She made up some event to cover for the fact that she wouldn't feel comfortable going to your rehearsal dinner. She is trying to give herself an "Easy" way out. They are going to look like very selfish, sad individuals if they do this to you, and the only thing I can say is "be the bigger person". Sorry she can't get over her insecurities and selfishness for one night, but remember the people that really want to be around you will make a way to be there. I almost wish that sorta thing would happen with my fiancee's dad/step mother because she is the similar type, and I would personally feel better knowing she wasn't around to start trouble or instigate my fiancee's mother into a conniption fit.
Oh wedding date twin, I am sorry you are going through this!
It's great that you are comfortable with your dad and you know you can talk to him about this. I would ask if they can make their "BBQ" a dessert cocktail hour or something. That way you can pop in, thank the OOTers and head out. Just make sure you give him another option so he can suggest it to your Step Mom. There really is no excuse for YOUR FATHER to leave early.
Thanks to everyone who has commented. You're totally right, Sheeoni. I'm going to try to explain to him very calmly that I would really like for him to be there. Sigh. I really hope that by the time my little sister gets married, this will have mellowed out. I would hate for her to have to go through this. Either that or I'll tell her to elope ;)
Maybe I'm reading this wrong,but didn't you say your Dad is hosting a BBQ for the OOT guests that you didn't invite to the RD? Even tho they are his relatives, aren't they coming for your wedding and that's why he's doing it? Its actually a nice thing he's doing, but because he's leaving the RD early for this,you're mad at him?
You could look at it that he's probably very uncomfortable being around your Mom (and vice versa), and maybe figures you would all have a better time without him there,tho he will be for part of it. We had a similar issue at my daughter's wedding,but the groom's Mom & Stepdad chose not to come at all!
I'm sorry this has upset you so much, but having him there part of the time has to be better than none of the time.
Smyley - I can see your point. But just to clarify, I'm not hosting the RD, my fiance's parents are. They don't have a lot of money, which is why the RD so small. It would have been impossible for them to include all the OOT family because there are just too many of them (on all sides). Also, it's more my stepmom that is hosting the bbq. Maybe I'm making excuses for my dad, but I really think she's behind this whole "pop in for a drink and go" idea. And of course I think it's polite to host your OOT guests, but I feel like she could have had a dessert and cocktail party, as someone above suggested.
I'm not mad at my dad, I'm hurt. Frankly, I just feel like he has failed me so many times over the course of my life that I kind of hoped he would step up to the plate for my wedding. I guess that makes me stupid for expecting his behavior to change. And maybe I'm taking the RD thing too seriously, but having him leave early seems kind of symbolic to me, and I wish he could understand why that would hurt me.
And believe me, I do understand their motives for wanting to leave early, I just wish they could put all that aside for one weekend.
My parents are divorced too. The best thing I can say about that is it made me take my decision to marry REALLY seriously. During wedding planning my Dad stupidly commented to me that he knows the bad affects of divorce better than anyone. I wanted to smack him. He has had to worry about himself, and me... but I have to worry about him, me and my Mom and Stepmom and I've had to do so since I was a little kid (they divorced when I was 1!). I mean constantly growing up I had to monitor what I said. Can't talk about having fun at Mom's this vacation or it will hurt Dad. Can't forget to pay attn to Stepmom on mother's day but not so much that Mom gets hurt, etc. Ok sorry I rant and digress....
My point is that I empathize - divorce sucks. It sucks to the be the kid and being stuck worrying about your Dad, Stepmom, and Mom, and oh yeah, what you want too, out of the wedding. I guess the thing is the only person you can control in the situation is yourself. So no matter what your Dad decides after you've had that honest/firm talk with him about this mattering to you, you need to be prepared to be happy and enjoy your RD no matter what. If he comes, easy enough - you tell yourself that even though this was uncomfortable for him, stepmom, Mom - they all came together for you. If they bail early, then you need to remind yourself that it isn't because he doesn't love you - its because of tracks that were laid a long time ago when things between your Mom and Dad didn't work out.
Incidentally the way I got through it was that I kept telling myself that everything I didn't have for my wedding beause of the divorce situation, I would make sure my kids had. For example, I didn't have a shower because of issues with Mom and Stepmom - for my wedding my daughters/inlaws will have fantastic wedding showers if I have to plan it myself or bow down while someone else plans it. I'm sure if you have kids, you'll be sure everyone is there being congenial and supportive for the RD =) It sure made me feel better to think about what I can give my kids, than to focus on what I wasn't getting.
ashleyleah---- That's a great attitude, with looking forward to giving your kids what you can't have. I'm not doing a father-daughter dance because if I dance with my dad, I'll feel like a hypocrite, but if I dance with only my stepdad, it's a big slap in my dad's face. It sucks sometimes!
polkadot---- I feel your pain. I often feel like my dad and stepmom really cut me out of their lives, and it sucks sometimes to see the attention that goes to their kids when almost none comes to me. Just concentrate on what you DO have... I know it's hard to look at things that way sometimes, but it really is for the best to just concentrate on the positive. Definitely talk to your dad and explain what you would like... but for me at least, I've had to remind myself in wedding planning to not take it personally. Even when it's from a parent! Sucks I know, but you will still have a wonderful wedding, whether or not your dad and stepmom decide to grace the rehearsal dinner with their presence... oy, divorce. My parents split TWENTY-FIVE YEARS AGO, but to watch them interact, you'd think it was last month. They're supposed to be the grown-ups!
Oh and also... while it's nice for them to entertain the OOT guests, the OOT guests are grown-ups and can handle themselves for an extra hour or two on their own. The guests are important, but they are not more important than you. Not only are you their CHILD... you're the BRIDE!
Thank you ashleyleah and MeghanV :) I know I said it before, but it's really helpful to know that there are other people out there who understand! My fiance's parents are still married, and most of my close friends' parents are still married, so I don't really have anyone to talk to who gets it. It's so frustrating that I'm 30 years old and getting married myself, yet their divorce still affects me. :( I'll post an update tomorrow after I've talked to him.
Hi again - so quick update. I called him tonight and brought it up again, and he assured me that he would stay as long as I wanted him to, but that his wife might have to dip out early to get the barbecue going. I feel a lot better now... once again I think this is a case of things getting warped when they go through my stepmom (trying really hard to be kind here, but sometimes she really gets to me!). Thanks again to everyone who offered advice and kind words. :)
Gosh my heart is breaking for you because I know your pain all to well. You need to remind your Dad that at the RD your in-laws will be insulted and that as the Father of the Bride it is as much a party for you as it is for him. Tell him that you understand the need to host something for his family but why not have a late evening cocktail party with them. That his family will understand that he needs to be at the RD with you and the rest of the bridal party. Remind him that he is a part of the bridal party.
My Dad has made things hard on us too over stupid shower guests lists. To me if my mom's family hosts a shower then my mom's family and my mom's friends should be the ones invited. His side of the family hasn't done a single thing for the wedding even down to wrapping my wedding gifts. They've been shipped to my home unwrapped with instructions to wrap and bring to the wedding.
My mom has been on this kick lately of telling people to Do the Right thing not the easy thing.
I was going to suggest that an easy solution be since it's step mom's idea for your dad to stay and she can go home to the bbq but I guess that sounds like what you guys are doing. Glad it worked out for you.
Oh goodie! I somehow missed your update! He did the right thing! I know what you mean by the step-mom. If mine weren't in the picture things would be a lot easier!
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So here is some backstory. My parents divorced about 12 years ago and my dad remarried shortly thereafter. There is a LOT of tension between my mom and my dad, and it's very, very uncomfortable to have them in a room together, so I've been feeling pretty anxious about the wedding. Ever since the divorce, it's been a constant struggle for me to maintain a decent relationship with my dad. He's said some terrible things to me about my mom (after I've repeatedly asked him not to) and in general it's just not pleasant to deal with him about anything other than very surface level things. Trying to get into a serious conversation with him about emotions or family issues is a nightmare. He would rather hang up on me (yes, I know) than get into a serious discussion.
At my shower this past weekend, my stepmom mentioned that they may have to sneak out of the rehearsal dinner a little early because they are hosting some big barbecue that night at their house for my dad's OOT relatives. (Because of the large number of OOT guests, our RD is wedding party and immediate family only.) That annoyed me a little, but I was ok with it. Then last night she says that they will only come in to the RD, have a cocktail and then leave. Excuse me for being a bridezilla for a moment, but this is my wedding weekend we're talking about! Why would you host a bbq that you KNOW will interfere with my RD? I haven't asked that much of them, and they can't even deliver on the most basic of requests, such as "be there for me."
After I left their house last night, I called him and told him that my feelings were hurt that they weren't going to stay for the whole (or at least most) of the RD, and that it would mean a lot to me if they could stay. He agreed and said something non-commital like "Ok, we'll rearrange schedules" or something. But it was clear to me that he was sitting at the dinner table with his wife and didn't want to really discuss it with me.
So now I'm not sure what to do. If I do nothing, I am certain that they will carry on with their plans for the barbecue and not stay at the RD for toasts or anything. I guess I could call him again and try to discuss it. I could also try to discuss it with her since this stupid bbq was obviously her idea. Am I being selfish? Should I just forget about it and let them leave early? I'm almost embarrassed at the idea of my father leaving my RD early... like we're not good enough for him to hang around, so he has to get back to his house to spend time with his family.
Sorry this is so long... obviously it's a lot more complex than this, but I've tried to boil it down to the key points. Any advice or words of wisdom? Thanks in advance and thank you for reading.