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    bunnylovesbear    February 19, 2011   north of Boston, MA

    Hi ladies,

    Quick question for you.  I've been pricing out diamonds online and came across a ridiculously amazing deal.  The problem is, I am now wondering if it is too good to be true.  I asked the seller to see a copy of the diamond's certificate.  It was graded by DGL (Diamond Gemological Laboratory).  Has anyone heard of this company before?  I've always heard of GIA, but not DGL. 

    Also, what sorts of things should I look for on the certificate in regards to the measurements, proportions, fluorescence, etc.

    Any input would be appreciated.  Thanks!!

    Okay...so maybe this wasn't a "quick question!" 

     
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    Miss Chocolate Chip      

    We got this 3-fold booklet containing all the info! I don't remember who it was graded by, but it should have the cut, color, clarity, carat weight and measurements. Ours also has listed the flouescence, the purchase price in what year, the faceting, and cut quality. But I don't think all certificates have ALL of this info. Hope that helps a little!

     
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    blightygirl      

    I've never heard of the DGL before.  Only GIA, AGS(I think that's it), IGI, EGL. 

    If you go to Pricescope.com, they'll probably be able to give you more information.  They're a forum for diamond purchases.

    You should get everything included with your report:  the 4Cs, percentages of all the angles, when it was graded, inclusions plot, etc.  I know that Pricescopers only like GIA and AGS ones because they're stricter with grading and give you EVERYTHING you need to know about the diamond.  One man's F is another man's H, etc.

    Good luck!

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    Mrs. DG    July 18, 2009   Seattle/Tahoe

    I googled DGL and their site seemed informative enough (though they did say they specialized in high throughput for chain stores), but then I googled "Is DGL reputable" and couldn't find any information verifying that they are.

    Here is a link to the reputable graders.

    http://www.diamondinfo.org/content/diamond-grading-report.php

     
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    loralie    April 25, 2009   Estes Park, CO

    I'm no expert, but I've never heard of them before.

     
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    bunnylovesbear    February 19, 2011   north of Boston, MA

    Thank you!  I'm thinking online diamond shopping isn't for me.  There's just too much that could go wrong.  I guess I have to accept when a deal is too good to be true.  I appreciate your help! 

     
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    Lee81    August 6, 2011  

    I've never heard of them before, either. Online shopping isn't so bad, but it is important to make sure the stone comes with a grading report from a reputable lab. You mentioned GIA--they actually created the 4 C's in the first place and tend to be the most respected lab in the industry. Their grading standards are the strictest and in general I think people are most comfortable relying on their reports. Their website is really helpful, too, whether you're shopping online or in stores. www.gia4cs.gia.edu  Hope this is helpful!

     
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    nickels    September 3, 2012  

    I have never heard of DGL. For diamonds the most stringent & reputable grading is done by GIA. From what I have learned from jewelers is that GIA does not "inflate their grading" per say. For instance what GIA would consider I in color, EGL and IGI may consider as much as 2-3 grades higher. I would definitely get a GIA graded diamond.

    Another thing to make sure to consider is the girdle and table percentage. For table percentage each cut has its own "sweet spot", meaning that you get the biggest looking diamond for the carat size. My emerald cut has a table of 68% which means it has a lot facing up making it look bigger. But you have to be careful not to sacrifice on the depth b/c thats what allows the light to reflect and create all the sparklies, my emie is ideal for the best of both worlds (though I can't remember the depth percentage of the top of my head). My emerald cut with a 68% table sparkles brillantly, while a princess cut with the same table and depth would not sparkle as much b/c in order for that that cut to be made it has a lot of weight at the bottom of the diamond, meaning it faces up smaller, if that makes sense. Also girdle is important especially if you are going to have a higher/cathedral setting where more of the diamonds edges are exposed b/c the girdle is where the diamond is most likely to chip, I believe medium to slightly thick is ideal.

    Also remember some diamonds look bigger b/c of their shape.

    So many things to think about! My FI went through Diamond Source of Virginia (online). They are GREAT! Basically you tell them what you are looking for and they deal directly with diamond cutters.  Since they have low overhead  they dont have to mark the diamond up as much to make a profit. My ring that would cost $13k in most jewelry stores was almost half that! All their diamonds are GIA graded and mine is even laser inscribed with its own serial number so I dont have to worry about it being switched out when being cleaned.

    Anyway if you deal with them, they get the diamonds delivered to them with GIA reports, they send you pics and reports and their personal opinion (they can be very objective b/c they dont own the diamond). If you like it they FEDex it to you overnight and tell you to bring it to an appraiser. After its appriased if you want it, you ship it back and they make your ring and you pay now. Everything took about a month for mine and they had fabulous communication the whole time. (Don't worry about shipping, they pay and they have it third party insured). Anyhoo, the really do help if you are on a budget but dont want to sacrifice on quality.

    Ok thats my long post, hope you find it helpful =)

     

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