Post # 1
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I wanted to ask the hive about diamond certification for engagement rings. So I was asking FI today if my ring came with a certificate that stated the clarity, cut, carat, and quality of all the diamonds in the ring. He checked all the paper work that he got from the jewelery store and there was no certificate. Just a peice of paper stating the warrenty and the total carat of the entire ring. I thought this was weird. I expected a certificate. Is the ring suppose to come with one???
Post # 3
I think if it is certified it should come with a card about the size of a credit card. I have one. Although I think my DH paid a little extra for the certification. I don’t think it would have mattered if I got a non certified ring.
Post # 4
My ring did not come with a certificate either. Many chain jewlery stores, like Zales, where mine is from, sell diamond rings that are not certified. I was “informed” from the sales person that you can not certify a ring with numerous diamonds…I don’t know if I believe that or not.
Post # 5
Not all diamond are automatically certed (especially lower quality…anything under J color or I clairty isn’t worth the time or expense to certify), but you can have it done after the fact. If so, go with AGS, EGL or GIA, IGI is lesser-respected.
As far as certing things with multiple stones, they can only give a range since a cert gives an individual diamond a specific ID number. For instance, you may find a pave band that says GH/VS. None of the stones are individually catalogued, but the stones all fall within the near colorless range and the VS (1 and 2) range. You certifiy diamonds specifically not jewelry as a whole.
Post # 6
I see. I just thought it was weird. I have to go the the store this week so I will ask them about it. I just thought it would be nice to have it. Not that it matters to me. My FI said that Canadian Diamonds come with them because they have to be certified and that other diamonds do not. He said that the sales lady showed him where the diamonds in there ring were on the clarity and colour scale but he can’t remember exactly what they were.
Post # 7
Also, melee or stones under 1 ct have the abbreviated credit card sized cert (dossier). Larger stones have a full sheet of paper sized certificate with more detail including a diamond diagram.
Post # 8
My diamond is certified but it did not come with a certification. This is something you can get from an appraisal. If you are getting your ring insured you will have to get it appraised and you should get a sheet with ALL of the info on it. You should def get it ensured! Good luck!
Post # 9
mine didn’t come with a certificate for the diamond, but FI paid for an appraisal which stated everything needed for insurance purposes.
Post # 10
We got my ring certified after the proposal. You need the appraisal if you want to insure the ring!
Post # 11
It depends on the jeweler. Not all rings come with certification. You can get it certified afterwards though via a jewelry appraiser.
Post # 12
mmm31911: Usually only the main diamond in a ring is certified.
If your diamond is not certified, it means there is no ‘genuine document’ that shows the diamond’s real value. It also means that the grading of the cut, clarity and color may not be authentic. If you have a document that has the cut, clarity, and color grading on it, but that isn’t certified, it could be inaccurate.
Future Mrs. Martin, alivoo01 & mkat88: The Certificate is not the same as an appraisal. The diamond certificate states the value of the diamond, and insures the value over a long period of time. The appraisal is usually just for insurance purposes.
For all buyers out there: Always ask for a certificate!
Post # 13
Mine was bought from James Allen and came with an AGS Certificate. By the way, that is NOT a credit card size document, like someone else said. It’s a full sheet of paper, in a nice holder.
If there’s no certificate, it’s not ceritified. GIA and AGS are the two main people that certified diamonds, but I heard that if it’s of an inferior quality (too many flaws, etc), jewelers won’t bother paying extra for certified diamonds. (Basically the certification is to assure that the quality is good, after all.)
Post # 14
Certification is actually not the same thing as an appraisal. It’s pretty important to have your ring certified for a number of reasons, including to know the exact specifications of your stone (4 C’s, etc) and in the event you ever wish to resell or upgrade your stone. Since you bought it without certification, you can submit it yourself to a lab, but I believe it cannot be in it’s setting. I would only send to GIA since they have the best reputation in the industry and tend to have the most accurate and reliable reports. If you want to know for sure what the 4 C’s of your diamond are, I would send it to GIA (they developed the 4 C’s in the first place!)
Post # 15
I’m pretty sure Canadian Diamonds are usually certified with GIA. BUT you could always go to an independant gemologist and get them to appraise and cerify your diamond/ring. You need to have it appraised if you’re thinking about getting insurance on your ring.
Post # 16
It all depends what type of diamond and where he got it from. Fi got me a solitaire from Zales and we had to wait a few weeks for the ceritifcation to arrive. it cmae in a small folder looking thing that shows the dimensions, cut, clarity, size and who it was certified by.