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    maggierose    May 26, 2012  

    I apologize in advance because this will be a long rant. If anyone has gone through anything similar and can share advice it would be great. Here is a little backstory:

    My parents got divorced when I was 19, after 35 years of marriage. I did not think it would affect me much, as my parents had fought for most of my life, but the fallout from the divorce was very painful and dramatic. My father did not understand why my mother divorced him and still loved her. My mother, meanwhile, wanted NOTHING to do with him after the divorce and basically has pretended he has ceased to exist for the last 8 years. In fact, they have only seen each other/spoken once in the last eight years, several months ago, and this 5 minute exchange was considered a major breakthrough. 

    My mother got remarried three years after the divorce, when I was 22, and has now been married for five years. Neither my brother nor I particularly care for her new husband. They got married after only knowing each other five months, which sounded alarm bells for us. This was his third marriage. He is not necessarily a bad person, but he makes some very strange and off putting comments on a regular basis, and he also controls the financial situation (my mom has no idea how much money they have) and we are concerned that they may be deeply in debt given the lifestyle they live. But, that is beside the point.

    The strangest thing is that my mother likes to pretend my father does not exist and her new husband, I will call him L, is our father. He often refers to us as his children. I could understand if he married my mom when I was a child, but I was an adult and barely know the guy....and he calls me his child? Other akward moments: My mom got remarried shortly before my older brother´s wedding. Unfortunately, my father felt so uncomfortable about this and the fact that my mom and her husband would be there that he chose not to attend the wedding of his son. My mother took this as another way to let her husband play the father role, and made him give the "toast" and the rehearsel dinner.....he barely knew my brother at this point! It was very akward and embarrasing for everyone. 

    The arrival of my brother´s first child brought even more akwardness. My mother stated that her and her husband would be in the waiting room during delivery. As the hospital was rennovating, the amount of people they could have waiting per family was limited. My father felt very left out and betrayed. But my mother basically forced this fact down my brother´s throat. Now that my niece is here, my mom refers to her husband as "granddaddy" my niece does not even call him that on her own accord, but several times when my mom thought they were alone with niece we overheard them practicing getting my niece to call him granddaddy. WTF? 

    So, my future wedding has my nerves on end for a variety of reasons related to this. Up front, I told my mom how important it was for me to have my dad involved in my wedding; that I would expect him to walk me down the aisle and share my first dance with me (because I know if I didn´t, she would volunteer her husband to do it, no lie). My mom seemed a little offended but said she respected my wishes. My FI thought I was causing drama by saying something, but only a few days later, my mom did something that proved my whole point. After having already told her how important it was for my dad to be involved and for her not to step on his toes by overly including her husband, I get an email from her. My FI and I are having a civil ceremony first - and my mom said that "her and L would be happy to come down and sign our marriage licenses as witnesses and take us out to dinner to celebrate". No mention or consideration of my dad.

    I have a feeling it will only get worse from here. She will expect L to be mentioned on invitations, which I know will make my dad very uncomfortable, and I can only imagine what other things she will try to get him to do. I try talking to her but she closes up (she is very emotionally closed off) or else she gets deeply offended, or she pretends to listen but does what she wants anyway.

    How can I deal with this situation, and make it clear to my mom once and for all that her husband is NOT my father, nor will he be my children´s grandfather. My dad is my dad, and he will play a role in my life forever, regardless of if she likes it or not.

    I can already picture the akwardness at the wedding: trying to keep them apart at the reception, taking separate photos (with L by my side of course), etc. I am so frustrated. I know I can´t control much, and a lot of other people are children of divorce, but it seems like most parents can at least be civil to each other. I just do not see that as a possibility and am starting to fear my wedding because of it! 

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    FutureMrsMorgan    May 9, 2009   Los Angeles, CA

    i can kinda relate.  my mom remarried when i was 26 and gets mad that i dont call her husband on his birthday or fathers day.  ummm...he;s not my dad.  why would i call him on fathers day?

    i guess this all depends on your personality.  if you dont want moms husband to make a toast, tell her and him he wont be making a toast.  period.  if you think she is gonna flip about the invites, dont involve her.  she'll get the invite in the mail and then it will be too late to try to convince you to change it.  (which by the way is crazy.  the brides parents go on the invite, not the parents + new spouses).  who's paying for the wedding?  you could eliminate all her meddling if you dont take any money from her to pay for the wedding.

     
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    maggierose    May 26, 2012  

    @FutureMrsMorgan: Thanks for your reply. My mom has done that, too, haha! Telling me to buy him a Fathers Day card and stuff. Wait a minute...he isnt my dad nor has he ever played a fatherly role in my life! We are just both two adults who happen to be in each others lives bc he married my mom! She has even gone so far as to buying a Fathers Day card for him and basically shoving it under my nose to sign it FROM ME.

    I like your idea of just doing my own thing for the invitations!!! My mom has had money saved up for my wedding since before she even met this dude, but I know if I accept it, she probably will stipulate that BOTH of them be mentioned on the invitation. So maybe I will not accept it - she did say awhile ago she would let me use it towards a house instead, if I wanted!

    Another fear: my mom has been DYING to publish an engagment announcement in the paper for years now. I know as soon as my FI pops the ring on my finger, which could be any day now....she will send in a hand crafted blurb to the paper saying "Mr & Mrs L, parents of Maggie Rose...announce her engagment" I GUARANTEE it will happen. My dad still lives in the same county so he will see the paper, too. I have to try to stop that one from happening. If she does that I will be so very upset and mortified.

     
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    junabiona    December 19, 2010   Wilmington, DE

    Just deal with each situation as it comes as calmly as possible. You've already laid the groundwork and stated your expectations.

    As to the civil ceremony: if you want your parents there, respond to her with, "I'd love for you to come, and my dad too." See how she responds and go from there. If it's a pity party or otherwise negativity, say, "I really don't want to choose between you, so I'll find other witnesses."

    I would not actively exclude her now husband, but be persistent in not allowing him to take your dad's place. Definitely choose your battles carefully here. Also treat everyone in the most respectful way possible.

    My parents divorced when I was 7 and have each been remarried (and divorced) a couple times, so I know it can be difficult. There's been plenty of drama. My mom didn't go to my brother's high school graduation; my dad didn't even know where mine was; I didn't see my dad for about 5 years (my teen years); my mom disowned me several times on account of my wanting a relationship with my dad.

    Divorce is never easy, and you'll never understand where your mom is coming from. All you can do is be the best daughter you can be and try your best not to get pulled down into their drama.

     
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    coconutmellie    March 2010  

    I am in a simlar situation, but backwards. My husband is the one with your situation and I am the unfortunate passenger in this rollercoaster of crap. My MIL pulled some drama herself earlier today, and you can probably tell I'm annoyed.

    Anyhow, my MIL has tried for YEARS to substitute her husband for DH's father and COULD NOT ACCEPT that we weren't inviting any of his family, honoring him in a special way, honoring his mother in a special way. She does not see the world in any other terms other than her husband being his father, and it's really hard to get into her head (she is also emotionally closed off.)

    Little has worked with her, at least little that I have tried. During the planning, my family was financing a lot so we didn't involve her in details - we simply felt like she was another guest with her escort. She was upset that he wasn't on the invitations, but she didn't know that until they arrived. She was very upset about who was on the guest list as I mentioned, but even though she picked a fight with me about it, they weren't invited. No doubt she had told them all about it and was embarassed to find they weren't invited. Even afterwards she was trying to involve them vicariously by asking me for a copy of my vows so she could share it with them, because they were "very interested" in how unique a ceremony I had (What? They don't even KNOW us - I doubt they're so interested.)

    Not giving her any power to make decisions seems to be the only thing you can do. Calling these women out on their delusions doesn't work, hurts the husband, and makes you feel like a jerk at worst. I have a hard time letting them have their delusions - I want them to knock it off and realize the reality of the world THEY have created by their divorce and remarriage, but they don't. It's SO strange that they are the ones that CREATED the step-situation, but they are the most blind to the fallout. Same with my MIL and her husband- it's not his first marriage or child either - they should know how sensitive thie step-family stuff is, but they don't want to believe it.

    in the end, we minimized their role (definitely her husband's) in the wedding planning, ceremony and afterwards and we know that she is hurt by it. BUT, my husband needed to make a very firm statement that his father was alive, well, and loved by him.

     

     
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    LeahKS    June 10, 2012   Connecticut

    @coconutmellie:  This is my situation too, or at least my FI's family situation.  His mother married the man she cheated on his father with when FI was in college. Now, she insists that FI refer to him as Dad, although FI still has a great relationship with his own Dad.  The invitations are going to be a nightmare, especially since FI's real Dad (who has also remarried to a very nice woman) can't stand his step-Dad (understandably, considering the circumstances, although he has been very nice to us).  Plus, to make things worse, Jewish tradition has the parents of the groom walk him down the aisle and stand under the chuppah.  Now exactly who do I include as "his parents"???  They all hate each other!  My wedding's a year and a half away and I already know everybody's going to get mad at me.

     
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    eseds    September 4, 2011   Long Island, NY

    Thats tough, im sorry its so ackward.  My stepdad has been in my life since I was 2 but my dad use to shove his second wife down our throats.. It was aweful and caused us distance at the time (I was 7).  I would talk to your mom like an adult and lay out the whole scene beginning to end.  As far as your inviitations go, we are writing "together with their parents" 1. Wed need a scroll to include all of our divorced and remarried parents names 2. we dont want to specifically include or exclude people.  Maybe choose bro and sister in law or a neutral party to sign the marriage license (Grandparents, cousins etc) as to not offend her or your dad.  And say that you and FH would like to go out to dinner with dad, them and whoever signed your licenses or whoever you invite.  Lay it all out very clear and make sure she gets it.  And that its not to slam her or make her uncomfortable but he is your dad and the falling out was not about you... Also, for grandbabies.  I was simply dad that granddaddy makes you uncomfortable, maybe you could choose a non-formal name to call him.  I know you may not be in love with this guy, but he is a step grandpa and in my eyes deserves some kind of title?

     
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    mightywombat    June 25, 2011   Massachusetts

    This doesn't solve the bigger problem, but for the invitations, one way to get around it is to use the "Jane Smith and John Jones, together with their families, request the pleasure of your company..." wording.  People reading that language can define "family" however they want in their own minds.

     
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    coconutmellie    March 2010  

    @LeahKS:It's horrible horrible horrible. We were being split into 3 by the wedding and now I feel like we're being split again by the holidays. Who the hell do we spend our holidays with if everyone hates each other? The answer is that if we choose one, the rest get angry!

     
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    TheFutureMcBride    August 2010   Virginia

    As someone who has all kinds of divorce in her family, I understand somewhat. To make things easier at my reception, I told our bridal party to watch for drama and they did. I had several people tell me after the honeymoon that they had to step in here and there. I never knew. They were amazing. As for including your Dad and not step-dad, do what you want to do. If it offends your Mom, maybe she'll miss your wedding and understand what your Dad's been put through these past few years. Yeah, harsh, but your Dad is your Dad. The step-dad just so happens to be married to your mother. I've dealt with this in the past, but I refuse to bow down to it because once I bow to it, it will dictate my life which I will not allow to happen.

     
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    maggierose    May 26, 2012  

    Thanks, everyone. Good to know I am not alone. I will definitely have to lay down the law on a consistent basis. I know there will probably be drama regardless. But like I said, good to know other people experience this as well...

     

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