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  • poll: Should I add FI to my mortgage after the wedding.
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    meginstl    November 26, 2011   St. Louis

    As they say long time lurker first time poster...

     

    I purchased a house about a month after meeting my now FI. At the time, I had been house hunting for almost a year and had no idea that a year after buying my house I would be planning a wedding. So that being said my mortgage is obviously in my name. We have been living together pretty much since the time I took possession of my home and from the beginning I have wanted him to feel like it is "ours" not just mine. Despite living together he already had his own apartment and it cost more to break his lease than it did to just finish it out. His lease ends this month and we have already worked out all our finances as far as rent and other expenses are concerned. We have talked about finances many times and in great detail. We have worked up a budget for every single expense including emergency savings, wedding savings, honeymoon savings, paying off our higher interest credit cards etc... It seemed we had a really solid plan.

    So on to why I am writing this...
    Last night FI talked to his mom for a bit longer than usual and when he got off the phone he asked about my mortgage and would his name be added. I had done a little research into this previously and talked a lot with coworkers, family, etc. From what I understand you can't just add a name to the mortgage you have to refinance. I have NO issue with him being on my mortgage. My problem is by the time we get married in November it is very possible that the interest rates will be higher than the rate I currently have. Also, we will have to deal with closing costs again and after a wedding and honeymoon we aren't really going to have a couple thousand dollars sitting around for that. I explained all of this to him but he seemed pretty dissapointed/upset about it. I am not sure what his mom said to him and he wouldn't tell me all the details but I know the phrase "just in case something happened" and "will she just be your landlord" were thrown in there. I have zero issues with his mother, we get along fabulously and I really couldn't be happier about the way they welcomed me into their family. I am certain that her issues she brought up with FI concerning the mortgage have nothing to do with me as a person and more with the "what ifs" in general of marriage.

     

    So long story short I am looking for advice from others who owned their own home before marriage and how they dealt with it. Thank you!

     
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    missmichigan    July 2, 2011  

    @meginstl: I have a similar situation.  FI didn;t have steady income when I bought our house so it was wiser for me to get financed without him.  Now he pays our mortgage and I pay everythhing else.  I want him on the mortgage but I dont want to have any penalties for it!

     
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    panterapeach    April 2011  

    I own the home we are in and it is going to stay that way unless there is a financial gain in adding him to the mortgage.

    In my situation my FI's credit may increase the rate.  I worked really hard to get the low interest rate I got and I am not going to change that just to make him feel better.  He will feel better knowing we aren’t paying needless interest.

    If it financially doesn’t make sense, don’t do it.

     

     
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    jo.lee    September 10, 2011   Indianapolis

    I would be practical about it. It's not like you're going to charge him rent :). His mom might be being old fashioned about it and think that you should own your home together, but in terms of how you live your life, it's not going to make one bit of difference. I wouldn't end up paying more just to make him feel better.

    If you guys do end up divorcing, you paid for the house so it should be yours, anyway. If you're paying off the mortgage together, then I'm sure the judge will be made aware.

     
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    HisIrishPrincess    March 23, 2012  

    I do know that it helps if you get sued and they go after everything you own... they can't take the house because it's in both your names.  I'll be in your FI's position as soon as i sell my freaking house, and then move into his.  He just re-financed for a lower rate so we will have to see what happens when trying to add me.

     
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    Georgia Bee    October 9, 2010   Atlanta

    I believe you can add him to the title without adding him to the mortgage.  You probably have a small fee for changing the title, but not the $$$ for refinancing.  I don't think it makes any sense to spend the money to refinance.  A will would probably provide enough "protection" for him in case anything tragic happened to you and someone tried to claim the house (your family member, ex-spouse, children from another relationship, etc).  If you got divorced, you would probably have to either provide spousal support for a period of time (since you were putting a roof over his head) or he would be entitled to half the house anyways.  This depends on the laws in your state.

     
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    PinkMagnolia    November 2011  

    You can definitely just add him to the title. There is a cost to this. You don't have to refinance.

     
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    FranksMama    October 1, 2011  

    @ Georgia Bee - I agree with what you are saying.  I asked about this and the loan officer said you can always add someone to the paperwork without adding him to the loan.  That means YOU would remain financially responsible for paying it, but he gets to own half of it :-)  How fair does that sound to you?!?!

    I have been in my house for 9 years.  He will move in shortly before we marry.  I love him and obviously plan to be with him for the rest of my life.  I feel that i would be out of my mind if i were to willingly sign over everything i've built for the past 10 yrs.  You NEVER know what can happen.  The plan is to pay the house off in 5 yrs.  At that point we will buy another house and that one will be in both of our names. 

     
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    MissGreen    July 2009  

    He does not need to be on the mortgage and no it is not worth it. This is the situation for DH and I, one name is on the mortgage but both names are on the title. There is a will in place for us for the just in case, but in our state, it would not matter, the surviving spouse receives the house and we took out enough life insurance for the other to pay off the remaining mortgage. Hopefully this will never be an issue and we will have our house paid off in 10 yrs.

     
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    ohnyc    January 1, 2012   NYC

    I think what he and his mother are concerned about is being added to the deed.  Being added to the mortgage does not automatically give you ownership rights, it just makes you financially liable in default.

    If you want to add him to the deed, you can do so without a refi. 

    But, IMO, he doesn't need to be on either the mortgage or the deed.  You can will him a percentage of your "estate" in the event of your death.  And in the event of a divorce, you should retain your home and equity.  I would personally probably take that a step further with a pre-nup that really spells out ownership.

     
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    spaniel    March 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    Talk to your bank and see what they can do. Just tell them you're getting married and you'd like to add your husband to the title and the mortgage but you don't want to refinance and see if they'll work with you.

    FTR, I wouldn't do it. I'd sign a premarital agreement, maybe, that acknowledged that the house was a community asset (less your downpayment, if you made a substantial one) and the debt was a community liability, and execute a will that said the same, but if the bank didn't make it easy and cheap for me to fix I wouldn't bother changing it with them right now.

     
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    Soon2beeMrsM    October 2010   NY

    My husband bought our house before we got married or engaged. I've lived in it since day 1. We have discussed adding me to the mortgage but his bank said we would have to refinance and pay extra $ so it seemed silly to us. I don't feel like I "rent", I pay the mortgage too and I consider it my house.

    I think you need to talk to your FI and see how much of his wanting to be on your mortgage is him and how much is his mom telling him he's a "renter" and you are his "landlord" in my opinion I'd tell him his mother has no place in the matter and make him sign some sort of pre-nup (if you do put him on your mortgage) since you aren't currently married and you bought the house yourself.

     
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    His Lioness    May 21, 2011   Wedding: Key West, FL

    We're in the same place - FI bought a house while we were dating and I've always lived there and it's definitely "mine" too, but I am not on the mortgage. At the time (before marriage) it didn't make sense to me. I certainly didn't want to be tied to a house together if god forbid we didn't work out. However, my income certainly goes toward the mortgage, furnishings and everything else ... so I am on the title of the house. That just means that he can't sell the house from underneath me without my signature, and if something were to happen to him, I would get the first crack and refinancing the house to keep it.

    I would say adding him to the title would make the most sense at this point. Once we're married, I would like to be on the mortgage, because its great for your credit, but I am not interested in paying all the closing costs/fees again... so we're going to hold off until it makes better financially sense. It's not our "forever" home anyway, so I will most likely just wait for the next house. :)

     
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    meginstl    November 26, 2011   St. Louis

    Thanks everyone! Lots of great advice. I agree with @Soon2beeMrsM: I need to figure out more about what his/his mother's concerns really are. I tried to get more information out of him last night but he just blew it off as if it wasn't really her pushing him. Things she has said in the past make me think she is at least a little uncomfortable with the fact that I make more than her son. I know he has no problem with it but enough pressure from her may be making him a bit uncomfortable with the circumstances. I will definitely ask a few more questions tonight.

     
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    indecisive_bride_2012    August 2006  

    As others mentioned, you do not need to refi.  I think this is just a matter of paperwork with the lender.

    I also don't understand why this is any of his mothers business?

    My husband is not on our mortgage, as I bought my condo when we were single.  I didn't want to go through the hassle of adding him on, and we plan to sell soon, anyway.

    In any event, his mom has never even asked about this situation.  Did your FMIL ask about your interest rate too?  =)

    I would be worried that she is concerned about business that is not hers to be concerned about, and hope this doesn't happen with other items in the future with respect to her son.

     
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    FinallyGettingMarried    January 1, 2011   Northern California

    here are 2 key terms: mortage and deed

    no one cares to be on the mortage

    everyone cares to be on the deed of the house!

     
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    MissAsB    June 6, 2009   Married in CO, Living in AL

    Honestly, I wouldn't put him on the deed without him being on the mortgage.  If something were to happen and you break up (I know we don't want to think about it but it happens), he will have rights to your home and not be required to pay off the debt incurred to own the home.  Unless you are planning on living there for a long time, I probably wouldn't pay the money to refinance either though (especially if he doesn't have good credit and will increase your rate).

     
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    bananarama      

    I am in a similar situation. As we are young, my mom helped us purchase our first home, so only her and I are on the mortgage. We aren't married yet and are still in school, but will have to make a decision whether to refinance or add him to the title or mortgage when we graduate and start our jobs. 

    Regardless of what you decide to do regarding the mortgage, I would totally reccomend talking to your insurance agent to make sure that his belongings would be covered in case of an accident. Even though we aren't married, our insurance agent helped us out a lot in making sure that all of his belongings (i.e. computers, clothing, furniture...etc) would be covered in our home insurance policy. We also got a big discount by getting an umbrella policy and adding both of our vehicles to our policy. Just something you might want to look into! Congrats!

     
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    Ms.Teddy    April 2011   South Carolina

     

    Honestly I just dont think its worth it...I also own my house and my FI will not be added to the mortgage after we get married. This house will not be our forever home...its small and not big enough for a family when we decide to start one.

     On the other hand I guess its a little cautious on my side also because growing up I came from a divorced family and my dad took the house from my mom in exchange for full custody of us kids. With that said, I think that the next house we buy to start a family we will definately do a joint mortgage.

     
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    bells    June 26, 2011  

    Like pp have said you dont have to refinance to add his name to the papers

     
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    meginstl    November 26, 2011   St. Louis

    @indecisive_bride_2012  and @bells:I really don't think that is true the lender isn't going to add a party to the mortgage without doing a credit check. I have done a little research into it and there have been plenty of posters saying refinancing is indeed required.

    Also, @indecisive_bride_2012: obviously it isn't any of his mother's business but this is the real world. Mothers are programmed to look out for their children from birth on. We both already know my mother is going to be a huge pain when we have kids, it is just a fact. I don't think telling his mother this isn't any of her business and to butt out is a good way to start our marriage.

    The fact remains that even if she has no right to bring it up she did and now it is something to think about/deal with.

     

    Thanks for all the advice everyone.

     
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    kperry3    January 1, 1991  

    As a married couple, I think your finances should be joined together. However, if it means y'all end up paying more then that's not good either. I think you should talk to him about being a momma's boy though. She can't save him all the time and interject things about y'alls relationship. It's time for him to make his own decisions and not listen to what momma says. That's just my personal opinion. I've seen it happen before when the parents are trying to interject their thoughts and it comes between the couple.

    If he's upset, just sit down and talk about finances and ask him if he truly wants to end up being in more debt because he wants his name on the house. If that is really what he wants, then he needs to take some responsibility in that in making the money to recover the debt. Goodluck and take it slow :)

     
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    crayfish    September 11, 2010   Berkeley, CA

    @FranksMama: Why not just do a prenup if you feel so strongly about what happens to the house if the relationship were to fail? Seems like a good option for you.

     
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    meginstl    November 26, 2011   St. Louis

    @kperry3:As stated earlier this isn't really about his mother. I don't think he is a "momma's boy". It would be completely hypocritical for me to tell him to grow up and stop allowing his mom to run his life because honestly my mother is WAY more overbearing and meddlesome. She drives us both nuts but she is still my mother and he knew what he was getting into when he asked me to marry him. I really have no problem with his mom bringing up her concerns to him. I think it was more of a "have you thought/talked about this yet" type conversation.

     

    Once again this ISN'T about his mother it is about what others have done in regards to a home purchased independently prior to marriage.

    Thanks!

     
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    Neva    July 2010  

    I owned my house before our marriage.  Both the deed and the mortgage are in my name alone. My husband has now moved into what was once "my" house. 

    I don't plan to refinance to add my husband's name because we didn't want to incur the expense of a refinance and I'm pretty happy with the interest rate I have now. 

    I also have not added my husband's name to my deed.  It is not because I am  worried about a possible divorce, but to us, it didn't make sense to go to the expense of having a lawyer draw up a new deed and have it recorded. 

    To us, this does not make the house any less his.  We always refer to the house as "our" house.  He has as much input into decisions about the house (repairs, decor, etc.) as I do.  He is my husband and my home is his home.  He is certainly not a renter.

    But the house and mortgage will stay in my name.  We just don't see the need to incur those kinds of expenses for a house we will only be in a few more years.  When we buy a new home, we will both apply for a mortgage and we will both have our names on the deed.  But we are OK with leaving what we have the way it is for now. 

     
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    pinkb    April 7, 2011  

    We bought a house together almost 2 years ago, but it is in my name. It was much easier and better for us at the time to not put him on it. Our mortgage is with Bank of America (they bought it last year) , I have called them before and they do require us to refinace to put him on the mortgage.

     
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    indecisive_bride_2012    August 2006  

    @meginstl: Point taken about his mom.  I am older, and realize that many of you guys are still in your 20's.  For me, at this point in my life, to have my mom (or his) telling me what to do about my mortgage would be kind of ridiculous.

    Obviously I don't know your situation at all.  However, I've had several friends (married 10 years or more) end up divorced due to meddlesome mothers and mothers in law.  They started out very willing to cater to their MILs during the first couple of years, but as the years went on (and on) and the kids came, they just grew tired of it.

    Luckily, this isn't your situation at all and you are poised to have the most amazing perfect marriage.  Good luck!

     
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    meginstl    November 26, 2011   St. Louis

    @indecisive_bride_2012: I highly doubt we will have a perfect marriage, but here is to hoping! I think if you are close to your family as we both are you are going to deal with some annoying meddling from time to time. We definitely stand our ground on things that matter, but there are some things it is just easier to back down on if it keeps the peace. Growing up my mom's favorite quote when we were mad at her was "you don't have to like me but you have to love me". There are many times I really dislike my mother but I will always love her. I am sure as the years go by I will feel the same way about FMIL. No matter how much I dislike her at times in the future she is my FH's mom and therefore I have to love her. I am sure that in twenty years or so I will be the annoying, overbearing, meddling mom... oh the circle of life!

     
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    I owned my home years before I met DH.  I did not add DH because my lendor told me I'd have to refinance and my new loan rate would be based on our joint credit history, income, etc and of course, there are all the closing costs.  My morgage is at a great rate and it makes ZERO sense to pay for closing costs again just so DH can be on the mortgage.

    Talk to your lender and see what they say.  Then revist the convo again with your FI and lay out the proceedure for getting him added and see if you can find out what the deeper issue is and address that.  

     
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    meginstl    November 26, 2011   St. Louis

    So we discussed it in more detail last night, I explained how it wouldn't make financial sense to add him if we can't get the same or lower interest rate. So basically we agreed that we would talk to our bank and see what a refinance would cost us, if it doesn't add to the monthly payments we will go ahead with it and if it does than he is ok with just letting it be.

     

    Thanks for all the advice and opinions!

     
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    njm1313    February 19, 2011   Fort Lauderdale, Florida

    I am in the same exact boat you are, except with a twist.  Same thing, house is in my name ... though FI has been living in it fr 4 years (since I bought it).  We're getting married in a couple of weeks and the question became "Is my name being added"

    Truth is, we weighed out what would be financially better.  Anyone who tells you that you can just add him onto the mortgage without refinancing is wrong.  We have researched this over and over and over - and have spoken to real estate, brokers, lawyers, you name it to try and find a way.  And if that person doesn't have great credit, there is a chance that they wont even ALLOW them to be added on.  (side note).  The deed - different story.  But, to me ... what's the friggin point?  Piece of mind?  Shoulda figured that out BEFORE we married (IMO)

    In our case, its better for us to refinance.  The interest rate I got 4 years ago is ALOT HIGHER than what we can get now; and I actually thought about a loan modification anyway, so it worked out well.  But, we both discussed it ... if it turns out that financially it wouldn't have benefit us, his name wouldn't be going on it.  Final.  We're a team now, it's not about whose name is on what ( I own the house and the 2 cars; he makes half the payments :)  Therefore, its equally his as it is mine. 

    Good luck, but if anything, your FI can put his name on the next house.  But, dont make it harder for you both on this one. 

     
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    krsmall    July 16, 2011   Ashburn, VA

    I'm sure someone already mentioned this, but I believe all you need to do is a quitclaim deed and add your fiance to the title.  I believe to refinance as a couple both of your names need to be on the title.  I'm looking into the same thing, I own a house and I'm looking to add my fiance onto the title.  I think you can go to some legal websites and get the quitclaim deed for around $200. 

     
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    cr6zy    September 10, 2011   phoenix

    we arent having a joint mortage. if something financially ever happens where the house gets forclosed it will only ruin one persons credit and make it easier down the road to get another house. you can both be put on the deed and eventually the title but dont dont dont both be on the mortage.

     

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