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    susan2274    September 24, 2009   Whitehall

    Ok, so this is what happenend to me...

     I got married in September, and am expecting a baby in July.  I decided I could use some extra money (really bad actually), so I made the decision to sell my Melissa Sweet Fiesole dress.  I listed it on preownedweddingdresses.com, and this site.  Within two days I got several emails, but this one email stood out.  Now before I even continue, keep in mind this was a very hard decision for me to make.  I cried over it, but I decided I wanted another bride to enjoy my dress as much as I.  So anyway this one girl, Jenn, emailed me and said she was getting married, she was my age, she was so in love with this dress, but couldn't afford a brand new one.  I had the dress listed for 1200.00 (it cost 2300.00), but she offered me 900.00.  Before I said yes, I communicated via email with her back and forth.  She told me her wedding colors, asked to see my wedding pics, told me about her family and love of the dress.  I finally decided she would be the one to wear my beautiful dress that I loved so much.  Because I felt a connection with her, I sent her the bolero I wore (cost 200.00), the bracelet and neclkece also.  The day I sent it she asked me if anyone else emailed me about the dress to forward the emails to her, in case the dress didn't fit, so she could get her money back.  I was fine with that, and when a couple of you awesome bees emailed me I did forward them to her. 

    WELL, did i get a suprise when she emailed me back, not realizing she was emailing me.  She went on to say how she sold MY DRESS for 1500.00, and she owns a wedding dress store, and she regulary buys and sells wedding dresses, and on and on.  She also asked if I would like her staff (yes I said staff), to possibly remake the dress for 700.00!!!! She totally lied to me.  I feel so scammed.  Not only did she make 600.00 off my dress, she isn't getting married, her wedding colors aren't blue and creme, she isn't wearing my dress, etc, etc.  I gave her all those extras!!!! I feel so horrible.  She had promised me she would email me her wedding pics with her wearing my dress as soon as she got married!!  I am sitting here in tears.  I wish I had my dress back!!  Part of the reason I was ok with selling it is I thought I had a connection with this girl who would be as happy in it as me! Now I don't have any idea who has my dress.

    Do I have a right to be upset? Was i wronged? Or should i just grow up?

    -Sue

     

     
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    Baby_PebbleS    October 10, 2010   Brisbane, Australia

    You have every right to be upset! I'm extremely angry after reading that!

    How dare she play you like that! that is so horrible!!!

     
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    KLP2010    October 30, 2010  

    Um, yes, I would be pissed too.  I would post a review about the store....

    unfortunately, I don't think there's any kind of "legal" implication, however, reviews sometimes (usually) hurt worse.

     
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    FurtureMrsTal    April 16, 2010   Columbus, OH

    I think that is so wrong and you have every right to be upset! You thought you were helping out another bride and giving her a dress she loved. Instead you find out you got hustled by some woman so she could make a profit. You were incredibly wronged and I think you have every right to be upset. I don't know exactly what you can do about it, but I wouldn't ust let it go, you wouldn't want her to do that to another bride would you?

     
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    I would be seriously peeved.  I'm not sure that you can do much other than write her a nasty, nasty email.  Also, if you connected with her through weddingbee, it might be good to "out" her so that other girls don't get scammed!

    I am so sorry that this happened to you!

     
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    mashka_f1    October 9, 2010   Oklahoma

    OMG, this is soooo wrong. We get attached to our dresses and only let them go to make someone else feel special. That lady/store doing such a bad thing. think about it...karma..she will get hers, and hopefully someone is happy to have your dress. You have a right to be upset, but be happy that another bride out there is going to wear it on her special day!

     
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    nurseamanda    July 17, 2010   Tx

    oh my gosh she not only flat out LIED, but weaved an elaborate story about her family and the wedding and all kinds of bs.  (i would leave a bad review, that is extremely shady business)  that is wrong.  i know you're hurt, but just think about the girl who purchased it, you know she must be in love with it so i wouldnt worry about that part, i know that doesnt make you feel 100% better though.

     
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    lilyfaith    June 23, 2012   Lakeview, Chicago

    Yeah, I'd be really mad. I'd definitely post a snarky review. That just shows bad character right there. She could have easily been upfront, that was a dishonest way to go about buying the dress. While it may not be illegal, it is immoral, and I think you have every right to be mad. 

     
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    rabbit    September 3, 2010   Milwaukee, WI

    I am SO sorry this happened to you! I'd find out the name of her store, write bad reviews of her and it everywhere you can, and I might even call the BBB to report her scamming ways! Also, maybe write to the people who run preownedweddingdresses.com and tell them what happened. They might kick her off or post a warning about her scam!

    The crappy stuff out of the way- Congratulations on the coming baby! :D

     
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    susan2274    September 24, 2009   Whitehall

    Bees...

      this girls email is jennchermar@gmail.com   When I searched her email address, she has tried to buy other brides dresses OFF THIS SITE.  I have no problem with someone making money, but the issue is she lied and made this huge story up.  Thanks for your kind words bees, but I really am so upset.  It's NOT about the money.  I wish I had my dress back :(

    -Sue

     
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    prettylady    8/7/10   NC

    I am so sorry this has happened. I must say though I am truly touched by your generosity!  Though she lied I think what you were willing to do for someone else is remarkable and I am sorry this turned out so bad.

     
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    leelee    February 21, 2010   NH

    Wow, of all the low things to do...what a scumbag move on her part....and scumbag is being polite and ladylike...Im so sorry you had to go through this. Please know that good things do happen in life and this blood sucking, money hungry "BLEEP" isn't the norm in this world....shame on her...Karma is a bitch....

     
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    eeh2010    October 16, 2010   Kansas

    WOW! That is wrong on so many levels. It's sad to think someone could actually sleep after doing any kind of business that way. I'm going to tell myself she is a desperate, broke, lonely woman who is in dire need of money to feed herself and her 17 children...that helps me feel not so pissed that she did this to you. Like others have said, what goes around comes around. It'll bite her one way or another. As for her staff making another one...I think I'd have a few choice words about what her and her staff can go do with their replica.

    On a happier note...congrats on both your wedding and your baby! So exciting.

     
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    I just don't get it... ok, it's one thing to lie, but why come back and tell you about it? She's a low, low human being.

     
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    Marinara    08/14/2010   San Francisco, CA

    WOW I'm so sorry about that!!  So horrible, you didn't deserve that treatment AT ALL.  I would feel just the way you do, that is really hard.  But you were being the good person you are & trying to do a nice thing.  At the end of the day, you get to go on continuing to be that nice person, and she has to go on continuing to be that crazy, lying BIA--H! That is not the way to do business...

    ...and if it's any consolation -- KARMA!

     

     
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    rwilsontilton    December 1, 2015  

    So I'm relatively new on weddingbee, so I'm not sure if this could be a possibility?  Would you be able to report her to an admin, so here name could be not blacklisted but seller's beware?

     
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    DecemberBride    December 5, 2009  

    You have absolutely every right to be upset. I am so, so sorry this happened to you! I would feel the exact same way you do, and I think you a perfectly justified in your feelings. What a horrible thing to do.

     
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    monitajb    July 17, 2010   Sacramento

    That is actually fraud, which is illegal. I would print out her emails, scan them, and fax them to preownedweddingdresses.com first. I would then let her know that you put in a complaint. I would then figure out which state she lives in, and file a small claims against her. But let her know what you are doing. Be utterly serious about this. It is in fact illegal to contract under false pretenses (use that phrase). Don't tell her it probably won't be worth your while to follow up, but at the least do this. It should scare her and you might get the $300 difference.

    If she has a physical shop, I would also lodge a complaint about her with the Better Business Bureau or with the Secretary of State, who usually handles fraud claims against state businesses.

     
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    meliss    May 31, 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    That really sucks. Reading this made me angry too. I wondered about some of these people posting on some boards "I have 5 of that dress in stock" etc but without a physical store or a website. Guess that's why they don't advertise their inventory or how they came to acquire it. Hopefully your dress will still end up in the hands of a grateful bride who loves it as much, even though someone else profited from it.

     
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    susan2274    September 24, 2009   Whitehall

    oh, and I found out her store name.

    http://abigailavawedding.com

    Please do not buy from this store.  They use lies and scams to get people's dresses.  I think I am going to contact preownedweddingdresses.com also.

    Thanks for the support

    -sue

     
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    meliss    May 31, 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    Yup, that's exactly who I was thinking of in my post above...She's contacted me for some dresses before and few months back I had referred someone to her looking for a used Lazaro, I feel bad now Frown

     
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    That's really aweful!!  I would be very upset if this happened to me!  When I googled the e-mail I found a WB classified response with her username: mslk116.  She has only EVER replied or posted to this site on the classifieds and in response to other classifieds.

    Please ladies, if you are selling things on WB, check their profile!  If they have been posting on a lot of classifieds, you can get an idea that they are a business and not actually having their own wedding.

     
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    mrbee    March 5, 2005   New York City, New York

    Wow that is really awful.  Can you forward me your emails with her?   We'll look into shutting down her account, and also contacting her to learn more.

    If someone is preying on brides on our site, the full wrath of Weddingbee shall fall upon them..

     
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    rabbit    September 3, 2010   Milwaukee, WI

    Yay Mr. Bee for stepping up for a wronged bee! :D Yet another reason I LOVE Wedding Bee!

     
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    bellamargot    October 10, 2010   Fort Worth, TX

    that is just awful! could you at least get the bolero and jewelry back?

     
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    susan2274    September 24, 2009   Whitehall

    I am trying to get the bolero, necklace, bracelet,veil, and the 300.00 difference between my original asking price, and the 900.00 discount I gave her.  That means she would still make 300.00 off the dress, since she sold it for 1500.00!! Cross your fingers, bees, I am not going to let this go.  I need justice!

    -Sue

     
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    mrbee    March 5, 2005   New York City, New York

    It's gonna be tough - you kinda willingly gave all that stuff to her, so it'll be tough to show a breach of contact  (especially since there was no formal contract).

    But in terms of making sure this doesn't happen again, I'm pretty sure we can find a solution which will help on that front.  I'll write you more about that privately...

     
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    Lea1013    August 22, 2002   San Francisco

    Totally was deception and you certainly have a right to feel slighted. but messing with her business and trying to get her blacklisted is petty. people can learn, but that is her business. hopefully there is a solution to help her see her lack of ethics without trying to destroy her income. There's always a possibility that she is a single mom with a child that is dependant on the income.

     
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    meliss    May 31, 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    @Lea1013 - Assuming that this is an honest post and you're not affiliated with Abigailava Wedding...I think many of us would respectfully disagree. Exposing this person is the least Susan can do. I don't care whatever this person's situation is, there's no excuse for conducting dishonest, unethical business practices. If she's lying and cheating to get her "supply", that is not a legit business, it's a scam artist. I'm very glad I found about this because I had considered buying a dress from her. God knows what else she would've lied about, maybe sell me one of her "staff's creations" instead of an original? We need to be concerned about protecting unsuspecting buyers and sellers who are the victims here, not the shady middleman.

     
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    susan2274    September 24, 2009   Whitehall

    Lea,

      Until I got married in September, I was a single mom for seven years.  I would never have done to anyone what she did to me.  I respect your opinion, but on the internet your word is all you have. I knew if I held out I could get more money for the dress, but I was happy to accept less and know (or think) my dress was going to a lovely young woman who loved it as much as I.  I just hope that is still true.

    -Susan

     
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    mrbee    March 5, 2005   New York City, New York

    I'm reviewing the evidence now.  First we'll contact the other party here, and hear their side of things. :-)

    After we've talked to them and reviewed all the evidence, we'll make a decision.

    Regarding income destruction, that's not really something we take into account.  Sellers should consider that before misrepresenting themselves on a site.

    If someone is systematically lying to our brides on our Classifieds, we will take action.

     
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    susan2274    September 24, 2009   Whitehall

    Thanks Mr. Bee

    I appreciate you looking into it.

    Goodnite all

    -Susan

     
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    bellenga    July 31, 2010   Georgia

    Wishing you all the best Susan and cheers for Mr. Bee!

    Susan, you have such a beautiful heart to have done that for that supposed bride, only wanting to bring joy to another.  In the end, I know good things will come your way no matter what the outcome is.  I'm so sorry this happened to you.

     
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    Mrs. DG    July 18, 2009   Seattle/Tahoe

    I wholeheartedly agree with bellenga.  I'm so sorry.

     
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    Muffins    April 16, 2011   L.A, CA

    THAT'S SO WRONG! She should be ashamed of herself! I'm so sorry that happened ): Your poor dress! You definitely have every right to be upset--I would turn hell upside down if something like that happened to me. Karma's a beeyotch, she'll get what she deserves!

     
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    ms.puppyjacks    March 2011  

    Sue:  I'm so sorry to hear what happened.  That woman is horrible person... If possible, you should yelp her business!  So that this doesn't happen to other brides.  SO SORRY :(

     
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    maisymay    December 19, 2009   morgan hill, ca

    Oh wow. It's sad that people are so deceptive in the name of making a few bucks. I'm sorry you got scammed by this person!

     
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    mrskesslertobe    September 18, 2010  

    whoa...I thought there was a post from a woman who thought she bought your dress, I wonder where it went?

     
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    mrbee    March 5, 2005   New York City, New York

    We are still investigating.  If any posts were removed, it was at the request of the poster.  Sorry, can't say more at this time.

     
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    Blueshoes2    June 2010   PA

    I am so so sorry this happened to you.  What a shady, underhanded thing to do to someone as thoughtful as yourself.  What goes around comes around.  Hopefully she never makes a dime off of any other bride on this site, or anywhere else. 

     

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