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    PaperCrane       Married!

    Here's my situation.I'd like to get some perspectives on it.

    The sister of my B.M.-J  works as a hair stylist for a living. She does a great job, I've known her forever and I also know she just got married herself and is strapped for cash paying for their new home.

    So thinking it would be mutually beneficial I asked BM-J to see what she would charge to come out on the day of and do hair for myself, MOH, and 2 BMs.

    She gave me a reasonable quote, and I had a little left over in my budget that I plan to put towards getting the hair of the other ladies done. She also wants a friend to come along so they can work together and get things done in 1/2 the time. (They'll be evenly splitting whatever I pay them I assume)

    She also said she would do B.M.-J's hair free of charge because she's her sister and all. So B.M.-J says she'll just throw her a tip. That makes sense to me. But while she said she would tip her sister, she also kind of implied that the other bridesmaids and I should tip her too.

    I was under the impression that because I'm asking her (and now her friend) to do this on a day off - not going through the salon- all of what I'll be paying is going straight into pocket. Do I really need to tip her on top of that? If I did tip both of them it would probably eat up a good chunk of my left over hair budget money and I wouldn't be able to contribute to the other girls stylings. Or is it normal to tip for this type of thing?

    What do you think?

     
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    2PeasinaPod       Philadelphia

    I would tip them. I know this is under the table and not going through the salon, but they are working and coming out to your house. That's something salons usually charge for I think. So, yes, I would tip them.

     
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    Tanya123      

    I like this question.  I'd be intersted in hearing what others think.  My gut would say to tip her.  (Although I totally hear where you're coming from.)  I say that because, I'm so used to tipping for hair, that I don't think it would occur to me to not tip.

    While I'm sure some of the costs of the do goes toward the styling products, hair pins and the like, you're right the rest goes straight to her. 

    IDK, maybe you can tip her les than you would normally tip at the salon??

     
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    pren79    10/17/09   SF Bay Area

    What if you tip only on the portion of the service on yourself and leave it up to the other girls to tip on their own if they choose to. Would that ease the budget constraint? THe rule usually is that if the $ is going straight to the service provider, no tip is necessary. Providing the service on-location usually also requires an on-location fee so I assume it's included in the price she quoted you. Just because somebody is going on-location doesn't mean that you're require to tip them but it is a nice gesture, especially if you're happy with their work.

     
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    moderndaisy    June 2010  

    Hmm.. I've heard that if the proprieter is the one providing the services (as in owned and operated by one person) you don't tip them. I still feel uncomfortable with that and would probably tip. I actually tried not to tip my sisters hairstylist because she did a TERRIBLE job, but she wouldn't give me my change! I'm takling terrible job, like it looked really bad and fell out within 1/2 hour because she didn't use enough bobby pins and hairspray and it took her less than 10 minutes to style. She also did my makeup an dused drugstore brand tinted moisterizer that was orange on my face and I had to put my own christian dior foundation on top of it! It was an awkward situation and I just let it go.

     
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    PaperCrane       Married!

    @moderndaisy that sounds horrible!!

    @everyone- thanks for all of your suggestions. Live you've mentioned, I kind of feel weird not tipping her- because thats just what you usually do when you get your hair done. but at the same time I let her come up with her own figure, so I hope that she would be satisfied with the predetermined amount and not be expecting anything more.

    Maybe I should also mention that I plan to book an appointment with her at her salon to get a trial done. And obviously I plan to pay her for her time and work and to tip her between 20-30% depending on how excited I am at the end of the trial.

    I've also extended the invitation for both of the stylists to stay for the wedding and reception- which means another 2 chairs to rent and 2 meals from the caterer. Would that be "thank you" enough?

    And then I'm thinking about my bridesmaids- I'm trying to keep everything as budget friendly as possible for them and I don't want to "force" getting their hair and makeup done on them without being able to atleast ease the cost of it a little bit. If I don't then the hair-do will cost almost as much as the dress, and that doesn't really seem right.

    Right now I'm leaning toward tipping - I guess I have to consider the big picture that this is a friend and I don't want to offend her.  

     
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    smyley    May 2010  

    I think you should tip no matter what. We had both a hairstylist and makeup artist travel an hour and a half for the weddings,and we both paid for each plus tips, plus they were invited to the weddings (both accepted). The makeup person refused the tip,but my daughter found a way to put it in her purse anyway. :)

     
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    thefiancemeenah    October 10, 2010  

    i would tip if she went above and beyond, had a great attitude, showed up early, re-does something someone doesnt like etc. but if the job she does is just basic and no extras, then keep with the policy that she is the "proprieter" being that she is doing it under the table.

    if budget doesnt let you tip but you want to, send her a thank you after the wedding with a gift card somewhere or a check.

     
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    VeronicaH    April 24, 2010  

    It's an interesting question. I would pay her more than she asked for, but not 30%.

     
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    beekiss2      

    I would tip her.

     
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    tobin      

    I don't think you should, she's getting a cash under the table job from you anyway, so it's already a tax free perk job.

     

    But then again, what would I know about tipping.  I got yelled at in Europe for not tipping once. -_-  We just don't tip here.

     
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    slicey19      

    I would not have planned to tip if she quoted a price, I would have assume that is what she expected. However, I may round up. Like if she quoted $35 I'd most likely pay $40 unless I was unhappy. My hair dresser is the salon owner and while the rule is not to tip the owner, when my haircut costs $22, he gets the other $3 to make $25. I know this is a small tip but I feel like nothing is awkard and he is the owner which aparently dictates no tip. In this case, she is self employed and dictated her price so I would assume a tip is not expected, especially if you invite her to stay for the wedding.

     
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    twalila    May 2010   Ohio

    What about giving the 2 girls that come out a small gift?  It's a way to say thanks without adding another 20% to your bottomline.  My 2 cousins who own a salon are coming out to do our hair.  They're not charging me and callling it my wedding gift (charging each other girl $50, so my 2 adult cousins are together giving me a $50 wedding gift....yeah....) and I've been up in the air what to do about tipping.  I'm providing everyone brunch for the 3-4 hrs it'll take to do 8 heads, and I think I'll toss them each a charm necklace and call it a day.  There was a salon nearby I could have gone to that would have fed us for free AND only charged $40 PLUS could have done makeup for $25 that I nixed in favor of my cousins.  Going with them has already cost me more,I'm not tipping on top of it.

     
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    Treble Clef    July 31, 2010   Pittsburgh

    I would probably tip her, but that's me--I've been a waitress for years before and I know I depended on tips! It doesn't have to be outrageous, just a little extra "thank you" for a job well done. 

     
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    serasvictoria    August 7, 2010  

    I would tip her, but not 20% like I usually would. Just like an extra $5, so if the haircut was $40, she would get $45.

     

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