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    FinallyGettingMarried    January 1, 2011   Northern California

    We're wondering what the etiquette is for guests who literally didn't bring a gift... do we still write "thank you for coming" but don't mention anything about a gift?

    Or do we not need to write a card b/c they got over $150/person worth of food for free on us? 

    I was surprised about the number of guests who literally came empty handed, no card, no bottle of wine, nothing.  What puzzles me is that all of those people make good money!

     
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    Ember78    December 15, 2012  

    Yes you need to write a thank you note even if they didn't give you anything. Proper etiquette says they have up to a year if they choose to give you a gift, but also that a gift is never required. They chose to attend, which they were not required to do, so the least they should get in return is a thank you note. If they didn;t give a gift, then it makes no sense to mention one. How much you paid per person to host the event and the income of said guests are both entirely irrelevant.

     
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    LGenz    May 21, 2011   New Jersey, Wedding in Clearwater, FL

    I'm of the opinion that you should write them a thank you card thanking them for sharing in your special day. Its nice that you spent $150 a person but that was your decision.

     
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    FinallyGettingMarried    January 1, 2011   Northern California

    thanks!  that's good to know!

     
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    I'm of a differing opinion. Since when did hosts send guests thank you notes for attending a party?

    Even Emily doesn't think you need to send thank you notes to guests for attending your wedding.

    "Who needs a note?

    • Anyone who gives you an engagement, shower or wedding gift, even if you have thanked them in person. Individual notes should be written to people who contributed to a group gift.
    • Anyone who gives a gift of money: cash, checks, contributions to savings accounts and donations to charities. Mentioning the amount is optional, but it does let the person know the correct amount was received. You should mention what you plan to do with the money.
    • Your attendants. A warm personal note attached to your gifts to your attendants will let them know how much you appreciate their efforts and support on your behalf.
    • Anyone who hosted a party or shower for you. Ideally these notes should be written within two days of the event. Each host or hostess should be thanked individually with a note and a thank you gift.
    • People who house or entertain your wedding guests. A note and a small gift should be sent to anyone who houses or entertains out-of-town wedding guests.
    • People who do kindnesses for you. The neighbor who accepts delivery of your gifts when you are at work; the cousin who supervises the parking at the reception – anyone who assists you before, during or after your wedding.
    • Suppliers and vendors. You don’t have to write everyone you hire for services, but anyone who exceeds your expectations will appreciate a courteous note of thanks.
    • Your parents or whoever is hosting your wedding. "

    Whether or not they should or need not have sent a gift is a whole other subject.

     
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    Mrs Sarah McK    October 10, 2010   Harrisburg, PA

    I sent everyone that attended a note. I know for some of them it was very financially difficult to get there (short engagement + most of my family lives across the country) and I just wanted to tell them how much we appreciated them being there with us. It wasn't anything long or fancy, just a "Thank you so much for celebrating with us." (well, a little more than that, but you get the idea.)

    EDIT: I'm also aware this isn't the norm, and there's no etiquette saying it's necessary. Also, including the wedding party, we only had 50 people at our wedding, so this was completely doable for us. I'm not sure we would have done it if we had had 100 or more guests. 

     
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    prettyflowers    September 2010  

    I don't think it's necessary.  And I consider myself pretty strict about TY note etiquette.  Maybe it would make more sense if you had a far away destination wedding and you know your guests went to great trouble and expense just to be there.  But for local guests, I just don't see it.

    If I attended a wedding and accepted $$$ worth of food and alcohol, and came empty handed, I wouldn't expect a card thanking me for accepting their hospitality.  In that case, the nice event they are putting on (i.e. free food and booze) is how they thank me for "simply being there."

    Yes, a guest supposedly has "up to a year" to send a gift - I'd sent a TY note when that happens, if that's the case.

     

     
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    PitBulLover    August 21, 2010  

    @Ember78: No, they actually do not NEED a note. If you write them a note then that is your choice and it is extra nice but there is no etiquette saying that you need to do this! The "thank you" that you are giving to your guests for coming is the party that you throw with the food, drinks and dancing (hence why many people say that not having your guests pay for drinks is proper etiquette because you are providing things to them to thank them)

    I wrote a post about this very recently - http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/thank-you-note-psa

     
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    crayfish    September 11, 2010   Berkeley, CA

    Just because Emily Post doesn't think it's necessary doesn't mean that it isn't a nice gesture. We sent TYs to everyone, since most people had to travel to our wedding. We really appeciated that they went above and beyond to be there with us!

     
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    PurpleUnicorn    April 19, 2011  

    sounds like the general idea is to send a TY note to those who brought a gift or to those without gifts, but traveled to get there (and therefore was a burden or expense to get there).  i will be doing thank you notes for everyone because my wedding is in Jamaica!

     

    @crayfish: (and others).  i am just purely curious about this. because i find that people who advocate sending to notes to guests who did not bring a gift also usually mention that their guests traveled to get there....so i am curious, what if your guest only had to walk across the street to get there AND brought no gift. would you still feel the same way about sending a note?

     
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    shanbrice    October 1, 2010  

    My thank you to all who attended was the favor at our wedding.  The thank you notes are for the generous gifts we received, so those who did not at least write us a card are not getting thank you notes.

     
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    Miss Tattoo    September 15, 2012   Pittsburgh, PA

    @FinallyGettingMarried: You shouldn't expect gifts. You need to write a thank you card for them coming to celebrate with you. ^_^ 

     
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    PurpleUnicorn    April 19, 2011  

    @shanbrice:  thats how i think too.  except before i joined the bee, i assumed all guests get thank you notes, but that was also because i assumed all guests bring gifts!  as a wedding guest, i would never dream of not bringing a gift.  however, since that some people do not bring gifts, i think it makes sense that the notes are for those who did, or like i said, because my wedding is in Jamaica, everyone will get a note with a little picture just for coming all that way.

    but its totally true that the favors also serve that purpose of giving the guest something for being there and celebrating with you (which is why some other people give notes for everyone regardless).

     

    * i feel like i need to prevent any "arguments" by saying that i think there is absolutely nothing wrong for giving notes to everyone, gift or no gift. it is a definitely a nice gesture to do so and i am not saying those who do are "wrong".  i am just curious to hear what people have to say and the rationale for it.

     
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    TinyTina    June 2012   Albany, NY

    @PurpleUnicorn: * i feel like i need to prevent any "arguments" by saying that i think there is absolutely nothing wrong for giving notes to everyone, gift or no gift.

    Correct. But the OP is asking if she needs to write a thank you. Etiquette says no, you do not. And I will not write thank you cards for those who do not come with a gift. I am not expecting gifts of course, but I am not having a DW and I am giving out favors. For me, the favors will be our thank you to the guests who came and celebrated with me.

    If a guest chooses to give me a gift then I will write them a thank you card for going above and beyond attending/celebrating my wedding with me and will thank them for their generosity.

     
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    2shy2Bbf    July 4, 2011   Louisiana

    If this was a destination wedding, it would be best to send everyone a TY note.

    If this is a local wedding, your wedding favors should suffice as a "proper" TY to the guests w/o wedding gifts.  But please continue to provide TY notes to guests who were fortunate enough to provide a gift.

    I dont understand why people have to go above and beyond with any event related to a wedding.  Would you send someone a thank you card for attending a birthday party without a gift? NO.  IMO, I appreciated your presence enough to foot the bill for food and entertainment. 

     
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    indyJEEP    July 30, 2011   San Francisco, CA

    I personally don't think that you need to write each guest a thank you note - I've never heard of doing that before. IMO, a thank you is in order for anyone who gave you a card, gift, some fantastic advice, etc.  

     
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    menobride    June 5, 2011   NH

    I wouldn't for the simple reason that they might still send a gift, and then you'd have to do another card ,which would be awkward.

    I also think saying "they got $150 worth of food for free" is horrible. If you invited them to your wedding just so you would get a gift, that's really terrible. If I were an attendee and I found that out, I'd be pretty pissed. That's really ungracious.

     
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    lisa105    October 24, 2010  

    @FinallyGettingMarried:  No, you don't need to write a thank you to guests for attending your wedding.  You don't thank people for accepting your hospitality and you may run the risk of making them think you're prompting them to send a gift. 

     
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    KLP2010    October 30, 2010  

    A wedding reception IS your Thank You to the guest for their attendance. There is no need to write a Thank You note if there is no present received, in short, according to the normal etiquette "code" for the last 50+ years, the Thank You's are ONLY because of gifts. Just like how you should send Thank You's for Christmas and Birthday presents. You don't send a Thank You to your friend for joining you for Christmas dinner.

    Is it nice, sure, but to answer the OP, no... NOT required at all.

     
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    PurpleUnicorn    April 19, 2011  

    @TinyTina:  Etiquette says no, you do not.

    just confused, what did you mean by this?  i said in my post that i do not think you need to give notes for guests who did not give gifts.  so how is that different from what "etiquette" says?  just wondering.

     
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    Widespread Panic    October 1, 2011   GA

    i will be writing thank you cards for everyone that attended, regardless if they give a card, gift, or money. because  i don't expect gifts or money, i  feel i need to thank them for their presence. but it's a personal choice in my opinion.  i feel it's perfectly ok not to send thank you notes for those that don't give gifts as well.

     
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    aspasia475    January 1, 2015  

    Formal proper etiquette requires that you send a thank-you note every time you receive a gift (and unless there are extenuating circumstances, to send it before you go to bed); and to send a thank-you note to your hostess within twenty-four hours of receiving substantial hospitality, such as dinner, or a trip to the theatre.  So technically, the guests who didn't bring a gift, and for that matter all the ones who did (and who should actually have sent them to your home ahead of time anyway) should be sending *you* thank-you notes -- but don't hold your breath.

    Formal etiquette also requires some difficult details for thank-you notes. They are supposed to be on your personal stationery, and they are supposed to be sincere and each one unique and personal. It's going to be hard to be personal if all you say is "thank-you for coming", and it's going to look *bad* to be sincere if you are sincerely thinking about your surprise that someone who got $150/person and makes good money came empty handed. Etiquette has a ban on speculating on other people's income or dwelling on the cost of hospitality.

    So, if you do send notes to people just for coming, you might want to consider sending the gift-givers *two* notes. And, you will need to come up with something personal and unique to say to all the non-gift givers: about your hopes for seeing them again in your married life, or about how long it's been since you saw them, or about what they've meant to you in the past and why they were a special blessing to have as a guest. This is called "social correspondence", and etiquette has NO rules against it whatsoever.

     
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    Jenniphyr    February 2, 2013   Alberta, Canada

    LOL, I know this thread is old...and I would never do this in real life...but I can't help considering writing a thank-you note saying "thank you so much for attending our wedding -- so sorry your gift got lost in the mail". : D

     

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