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Does an Invitation = a Solicitation for a Gift?

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  • poll: Does an Invitation = a gift solicitation?
    Yeah, your parents are right : (24 votes)
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    Some people might interpret it that way, but it's not a well-known thing : (18 votes)
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    No way--invite them! : (24 votes)
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    It might, but people like to feel included so just invite them : (53 votes)
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    beachbrideamy    September 18, 2010   DW beach wedding

    My parents keep insisting I not invite family friends who cannot afford to attend our destination wedding, because they will view the invitation as a solicitation for a gift.

    I TOTALLY don't think that's the case.  Unless it's a super close friend, I don't give gifts for weddings I don't attend.  The point of me sending the invitation/STD is to make them feel included.  They get to see the pictures of us on the Save-the-Date and feel like we thought of them.  I'm not asking them for a gift!

    Who is right in this situation?  What's the etiquette?  Are you sending invitations to people whom you know cannot make it to your wedding (cost issues, scheduling conflicts...etc?)

     
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    beachbrideamy    September 18, 2010   DW beach wedding

    I should add, our venue has a pretty reasonable capacity and we're locked into a food and beverage minimum, so we have room for all the extra invites.  No need to "make cuts"

     
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    EvaBostonTerrier    July 3, 2010  

    What about sending out wedding announcements to the people in question?

    http://www.essortment.com/lifestyle/propermannersw_skhy.htm

     
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    miss-spunkin    May 29, 2010   Midwest

    I am wondering the same thing. My fiance's side is all from out-of-state and we know right off the bat that over half won't be able to come. We are inviting them more out of etiquette and the fact that they are either family or close to my fiance. But I'm wondering the same thing.

    I think partly is depends on your area. I'm in the midwest, and here, I don't think anyone would feel obligated to send a gift to a wedding they didn't attend unless it was family or someone REALLY close.

    But where my fiance is from, the East Coast, I think it is customary to send the couple money. They don't buy gifts off a registry normally, they usually just give monetary donations. Which I find a little odd, but oh well :) Then we could get what we really wanted.

     
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    greenleafmountain    7.31.2010  

    Well, since it is a destination wedding, that does throw a little wrench into the equation.  However, I think you shouldn't invite or not invite people based on speculation over their finances.  You need to invite people in categories- so if you're inviting one aunt, you need to invite all your aunts and uncles.  It wouldn't be right to, for example, invite one uncle you have who is well off and you think could afford to come, but to not invite your poorer aunts and uncles. 

    However, if these people are just distant family friends, rather than your close friends or relatives, then I might not invite them for the reasons your mother said.  If someone is surprised to receive an invitation because they don't feel that close to you, they'll start to speculate about your motives.  This can be especially bad if its something like a destination wedding because they'll think "She knows I can't attend, and we're not even that close! What the heck did she invite me for?  Is she fishing for a gift?"

    So basically, I think you have to do it case by case.  I would only invite REALLY close "family friends", people you see and speak to on a regular basis.  That way you can also say to them the next time you see them "We're know you may not be able to come, but we wanted you to know we were thinking about you" or something.  If you don't have any regular communication with them, then they probably won't react well to an invitation out of the blue, you know?

     
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    ms.pascua    June 25, 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    Tricky question...I voted that your parents are right, mostly since I always send a wedding gift to any wedding I'm invited to, whether I attend or not.  We have a VERY similar situation for our wedding:

    Are you contemplating having a "Hometown Reception" at all?  If so, perhaps sending a Save-the-Date for this would be more appropriate.  This is what we're doing for our wedding (not DW for us, but DW for 80% of our guest list & 95% of my family who AREN'T invited to the wedding for same reason your parents had above).  On the SAME DAY that we sent our invitations to our wedding guests, we also sent a postcard Save-the-Date to the vast number to my family & family friends who might have felt left out/slighted by not receiving an invite - like you, I wanted them to know that they ARE included in our celebration (albeit later & MUCH more convenient for them) & that we ARE thinking of them as we celebrate our marriage. 

    In case you're wondering, here's how we worded it to avoid confusion about which event they are actually invited to:

    FI & Bride are tying the knot in June & invite you to join the celebration at the After Party...in December.  in Hawaiian pidgin: (yeah, yeah is one "aftah, aftah" pahty.  we stay on Hawaiian Time, 'kay?) back in proper English: December __, 2010, Venue Site, Honolulu, Hawaii

     
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    CCSR    November 27, 2010   Arlington, VA / Wedding in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

    Being one that has been excluded from a destination wedding that I knew I couldn't afford, I gotta say, I took it VERY personally.  Even though I wouldn't be able to go, not receiving an invitation hurt.

    For my wedding, I know a lot of people won't be able to go to Brazil, and I understand that completely.  But I'm inviting everyone I wish could be there to avoid offending anyone.

     
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    spaganya    September 4, 2010   Arlington, VA/wedding in Williamsburg, VA

    i dont think an invite solicits a gift. i get invites all the time and i dont send a gift unless i attend or if its a really close relative/friend that i WISHED i could go but couldnt.

    thats the norm in our circle. so i guess it depends on your family/traditions/social circle.

    but i would be disappointed if i didnt get an invite from a friend who was getting married just because she thought i wouldnt come. you dont know folks situations, they might have the money to come and want to do so.

     
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    jenbrandner    Aug 7, 2010   Wisconsin

    IMO you should invite everyone you would like to see at your wedding, whether or not you think they'll be able to come.  If you don't invite them, it could be misconstrued that you didn't want them there, and you're right that people want to feel included.  Also, your invitation fort of doubles as a formal wedding announcement.  I count myself among the people who ALWAYS send a gift when I'm invited to a wedding, even if it's just money in a card, because I think it's just good ettiquette.

    If possible, you might consider having a reception close to home after you get back (maybe a month later for example), to give your friends and family a chance to celebrate with you if they couldn't come to the wedding.  My friend did that, and it worked out really well.

     
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    sapphirebride    December 31, 2010   Seattle, WA

    What about sending annoucements instead of invitations to this group of people?

    It definitely is proper to send a gift to someone if you were invited to their wedding, unless of course it was a total random invitation and you can't figure out why you were invited. With that said, people can choose to buy gifts at any price level. I think the concern about offending people by NOT inviting them is worse than offending them because you think you are requesting a gift.

     
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    egb    January 2010  

    My husband wanted to invite everyone he knew, because he didn't want to hurt anybody's feelings by not including them. Knowing that people would respond "no", I had no problem with that.

    We received gifts from some people who declined (mostly friends, our families didn't send gifts, nor cards, nor even congrats email, but that's another story!), and we were NOT expecting that! We didn't want gifts from anyone, whether they were attending or not. But yeah, we got some.

    While I still don't think it's "a sollicitation for a gift", I think some people feel like they have to give something. If it's some type of well know etiquette that I had no idea about (cause I know nothing about wedding etiquette), I hope people will have seen it as that, and not as me fishing for gifts! Embarassed

     
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    Bamboo    June 2010   Midwest

    If you are worried about it coming off as grabby, It wouldn't hurt to put an insert into all the invites saying something along the lines that you know it might not be possible for everyone to attend due to the fact that its a destination wedding, but would love it if they could. I personally would be very hurt to not be included, especially if it gets out that you aren't inviting them because you don't think they can afford it. That would be a very embarrassing situation for them. Better to invite and risk them thinking its a gift grab than to potentially embarrass them.

     
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    SaraRocks    October 16, 2010   Baltimore, MD

    Technically, when you recieve an invite to a wedding, you are supposed to send a gift, regardless of whether or not you attend. However, I'm inviting one of my aunts that has been out of a job for a while so I really don't want her to worry about getting me something. It's such a tricky situation, because you are inviting these people because you want to share a special day with them, not because you want a gift (unless you are on Bridezillas :). I think this is one of those times that parents call the guest and let them know that you don't expect anything. That's the only way I can think of to handle it.

    Hope that helps!

     

     
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    Jenniphyr    February 2, 2013   Alberta, Canada

    While most traditional etiquette says that sending an invitation is solicitation for a gift, it also says that guests who aren't attending an event are NOT required to give a gift. (And, in fact, they're not required to either way -- it's just poor etiquette not to.) So I voted for the last option, since I'll be dealing with a similar situation, and I think it's ruder NOT to send the invites out than to risk being seen as gift-hunting.

     
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    beachbrideamy    September 18, 2010   DW beach wedding

    Great points, Bees!  I guess I view it as a worse offense to exclude someone than to come across as gift-grubbing.  If someone feels like I'm fishing for a gift, they might scowl when they open the invitation and reluctantly buy me something cheap, or they'll just throw it away. It will leave a sour taste in their mouth for a few minutes, and they'll move on.

    On the other hand, if someone feels like I excluded them or didn't want them at my wedding, they WON'T just shrug that off.  They'll remember it every time they see me.

    My cousin invited 350 people to his wedding, and that didn't include me or my sister.  We invited him to ours, which were much smaller.  You have 350 friends who are more important than your family?  Wtf.  See, now I every time I see him, I remember him as the one who didn't invite me! 

     
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    SapphireSun    July 9, 2010   Vancouver, BC

    I think if financial situation aside, you would love to see these people at your wedding, you should send them an invitation, and leave that decision up to them.  We were surprised by a few people who have decided to come to our wedding, and would have felt bad if they'd felt they weren't welcome.

     
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    Marinara    08/14/2010   San Francisco, CA

    I agree that in general you should determine your invite list based on who you want to invite, and not who you think can afford to attend.  But I also think this situation might be a little tricky, beyond that general rule.  First, if these family members have already told you they won't be able to make it, I do think it can come off as gift-grabby to send an invite anyway.  (We're having a west coast wedding, FI's famiy is all on the east coast.  Early in the process, long before invites were going out, our families knew it would be a west coast wedding.  Some people have personally and directly let us know that they won't be able to make it.  It would seem rude to send them an invite anyway.)  So I vote that if there are family members who have directly let you know they can't attend, it's much better to go the announcement route with those people.

    Beyond that, though, it might be best to go with your parents' insight on this one.  Regardless of etiquette, they probably have a good idea of how family members will perceive the invites, how it will make them feel, etc.  If it's proper or not, your parents' advice is likely the way to go with their own family, ya know?

     
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    alivoo01    September 18, 2010   Dallas, TX

    There's definitely a hand full of people on our guest list that won't be able to attend, but we are sending invites to anyway to let them know we still thought about them and would still love for them to come if possible!

     
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    mrstilly    May 15, 2010   Ithaca, NY

    I ran into this for my bridal shower. It was being thrown by FMIL and her side of the family. I initially didn't invite any relatives that I didn't think could come except my mom, step mom, and g'mas. Then I got calls from my dad and g'ma asking who I invited, and asking me to send invites out to all of my female relatives, so they didn't feel left out. They didn't attend, and only some sent gifts, but I've heard through word of mouth that they were happy to be included. My main reason for not inviting them initially was so I didn't make them feel obligated to send a gift.

    We were planning to do the same thing for the wedding already. A lot of people aren't coming (about 1/3 the guest list) due to travel expenses, but everyone has been happy to get an invite.

     
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    Ella1978    June 19, 2010   Cleveland, Ohio

    I think you should invite anyone you would want to come to your wedding.  You never know if they will decide to save up and make a vacation out of it.  Just ASSUMING that they aren't coming wouldn't be enough for me.  If someone flat out told me that the wouldn't be coming, I would have to think a little more about it, but I'd probably still send the invite, just so that they realize that they are important to us.

    Secondly, I always send money, even if I'm not going to a wedding.  If I go I give one denomination, if I don't, I give less.  They aren't paying for my dinner, but it's still proper to send them a gift.

    Otherwise, I would make the wedding small and send announcements after the wedding.

     
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    PomPom    June 19, 2010   Chicago

    According to the Emily Post wedding etiquette book that I have - you send a gift to every wedding you are invited to, whether you attend or not. I have actually never heard of not sending a gift if you don't attend (usually people feel bad they can't make it and especially want to send something in their absence). Those are some of the first gifts we have received actually...

     
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    CorgiTales    February 1, 2011  

    I'm the opposite... my mom thinks we should invite everyone and I'm worried about people thinking its a gift grab. Overall though... I think we'll prob just invite them and not worry about it. 

     
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    andy113    August 14, 2010   DC

    i think it used to be but not so much anymore.

    of the 170 who said no to our wedding, i would say MAYBE half have sent a gift of some kind. we have many who came to our wedding who didn't even bring a card, let alone a gift (a few have said its on the way but who knows....)

    i have also felt hurt not being invited to destination weddings that i knew i wouldn't be able to attend. its just nice to include people. if they feel inclined to send a gift, that's totally their decision. they're adults and there is nothing you can do about how they interpret your invite.

     
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    Kemi82JP    June 12, 2010  

    ok my computer is messed up and wont let me vote, but yes i think your parents are right.  especially if they are talking about people from their generation.  people our age would not take it that way, but from previous generations it was a standard practice to always get the couple a gift, whether you can go to the wedding or not.  of all the people who couldn't make it to my wedding, it was only my parents friends who still sent us gifts.  no one from our generation did that.  and i know we haven't done that for any weddings we have missed.  so you gotta look at it from their point of view, not your own.  BUT i agree with other comments that these people will probably appreciate feeling included, even if you and they know they can't make it.  but that depends on the person.  

     
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    Ember78    December 15, 2012  

    An invitation means that you want that couple or person to share in your day. Nothing more, nothing less. A gift is never required, nor should it be held over someone's head if they do (or don't) attend. There are some (rare few) people who will automatically misinterpret an invitation to mean that you are fishing for gifts only and don't want them there for any other reason, but the majority do not follow that belief at all.

    When compiling your list, decide whom you cannot imagine the day without. Send invitations to those people. Don't send invites to anyone else. Obligatory invites to folks you don't want in attendance and are not close to are what causes drama and unexpected expenses that put the couple in debt.

     

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