Post # 1
Someone mentioned that our little girl may have an incontinence problem so I googled it and have been doing research but I’m not sure if it all fits. We’ll be taking her to the vet for a check up in about 4 weeks but will go tomorrow if she needs it. I will also mention this to the vet at her appointment to see what he says, but as a starting point, what do you think?
Here’s her stats:
+ 2.5 year old female dachshund/chihuahua
+ had at least 1 litter of puppies, probably 2 according to vet
+ spayed at age 2 (6 months ago)
+ taken out at least 4 times a day and will pee outside 2-3 times each time she is taken out (pees on average of 10 times a day)
+ will pee in house at least once a day, usually within an hour of taking her outside (where she peed 2-3 times already)
+ drinks almost 2.5 cups of water a day (estimated – i just fill up her water bowl)
She was a rescue and came from a horder and wasn’t familiar with leashes, collars, food/water bowls, and stairs. She has come a LONG way from them and understands she pees and poops outside but DH and I are getting so tired of cleaning up pee.
Does this sound like incontinence to you?
Post # 3
You said she urinates in the house – are we talking small drips as she goes or an actual squat with a significant amount of urine? Has this been her behavior since you took her home or is this a recent change? How long has it been since she’s been out of the hoarding situation?
Sorry for the 20 questions! It could be anything from a UTI to incontinence to diabetes to Cushings to behavioral. Without more info, it’s hard to point you in the right direction and give you any sense of urgency.
Post # 4
That seems like a lot of water for a small dog, so it could simply be a UTI/kidney infection. My dog has mild incontience in that he sometimes ‘wets the bed’ – every once in a while we’ll find a small puddle underneath him when he wakes up. To counter this, we make sure he gets a potty break right before bedtime.
Post # 5
@MariContrary: no no, thank you so much for your help!
She pees a full amount in the house (which is actually quite a bit) compared to our other similarly sized dog. She was not potty trained at all when we took her home so she peed in the house but she usually only peed when she got scared (which could have been me opening the fridge or turning on the bathroom fan). She’s become more comfortable but still peeing.
She was removed from the horder in early November and in the SPCA kennels until we adopted her mid-Feb. She’s really only been with us for a solid 4 months. In the kennels, they took them out only 1 time a day but she has since gotten used to our 4+ schedule.
She was most likely born into “horder captivity” so we really try to be understanding about her little quirks but I don’t want this to be a medical issue we’re just ignoring. She also knows she’s naughty when she pees and will go straight to our bathroom (the naughty room) after I see the pee.
Post # 6
@loveandapitbull: I’m just estimating but its bigger than our cereal bowls and I fill it up almost every day. Since we have two dogs, it may not just be here thats drinking it but it seems like it is since his bowl is close to empty too.
They get taken out at: (at least 4 times on a normal workday)
9-1130 pm (minutes before I climb in bed)
I stay out there with them for about 10-20 minutes so they can run around and smell and pee on everything.
she doesn’t pee in bed but she’ll jump down off our bed, pee in the living room, and then get back into bed with us.
Post # 7
@cooperlove: Dogs with incontinence don’t know they’re peeing or can’t control it. They often drbble constantly or wet the bed while sleeping. The amount of water she is drinking might be ok, depending on her size, but taking her to the vet now for a check up would be a good idea to make sure nothing serious is going on.
Post # 8
I agree with the PP that is doesn’t really sound like incontinence to me, (but I am not a vet!). I had a friend who had a dog who was incontinent due to a tumor, and would “go” without being aware that she was going.
My guess would be that with the amount of water she is drinking and the size of her bladded, she probably just needs to go. She may have a medical problem contributing to this, (UTI, maybe…diabetes can also causes excessive thirst and urination…either way, it sounds like a medical exam is in order). If nothing is medically wrong with her, you may want to try picking up the water bowls earlier in the evening.
I am generally against training dogs to use a pee pad, because it often causes confusion as to where they are supposed to be eliminating, however, since this is a nightly thing, and since she’s a small dog, you could also look into a doggy litterbox, (they make some that are basically the same as a cat litterbox, but they also make some that are like a collection tray with artificial grass on top). The fact that she leaves the bedroom and pees in the living room every night sounds like she just can’t hold it all night, and putting a litterbox down might be a better solution for her, and would be easier for you to clean up. You could put it in the living room to start with, and then gradually move it to whatever location you want it to be by moving it a few feet each day once she’s gotten the hang of it, (assuming you don’t want a pee box in the living room! hehe!).
But it definitely sounds like your first step needs to be a trip to the vet, just to rule out anything medical. Good luck!
Post # 9
@cooperlove: The first thing that came to my head about an animal drinking and peeing more than normal is diabetes insipideos. My cat had that. http://www.vcahospitals.com/main/pet-health-information/article/animal-health/diabetes-insipidus-in-dogs/743
When she pees several times outside is it a large amount or just little squirts? My dog does that sometimes too but I think it is more about marking his terriroty/likes peeing on different patches of grass. So it could jsut be that and not fully being potty trained. If it seems like she is drinking and peeing large volumes that can be more serious and needs to go to the vet sooner. A UTI is another possibility.
Post # 10
@cooperlove: The fact that she has enough control to get off the bed, go to another room, urinate and come back would indicate that it is not incontinence. Incontinent dogs do not have control over their bladder, so you tend to see accidents during their sleep, or small dribbles.
On average, a dog will drink between half an ounce and one ounce per lb. So if she’s 8lbs, average would be a little less than 1 cup of water a day. If she’s drinking more than that, that could be for multiple reasons – both medical and behavioral options here.
Diabetes insipidus would be extremely rare and highly unlikely. Diabetes mellitus (think human diabetes) would be more likely, and one of the early signs is excessive drinking and excessive urination (PU/PD). However, it’s not often seen in younger, healthy weight dogs. Kidney disease is also a possibility, though again, less likely in a younger, otherwise healthy dog. UTI would also be a possiblity, though less likely based on the fact that she is urinating large amounts.
I would consider behavioral possibilities – if she’s not used to having clean, fresh water available, she may drink all of it as soon as she sees it, which will cause her to have to urinate more often. Do NOT restrict water until she sees a vet – if there is a medical reason she’s drinking more, restricting water access can cause serious problems.
Personally, I’d get her checked out sooner than later. If it’s a medical cause, you’ll want to start treatment right away. If it’s behavioral, you can start correcting it.