Post # 1
I was raised in a southern baptist church. My husband was not raised in church, though he now sees himself as a child of God. We both consider ourself non-denominational, though we both have relitives that are catholic.
So we received a gift- a doyley, or doilie, or however you perfer it. Of course I think it’s a thoughful gift, but my DH thinks it’s more than that, that it has some sort of religious meaning, but doesn’t know what. The woman whom has given us the gift is catholic. If it does have special meaning, I would like to thank her accordingly. I’ve tried to google it, and nothing. Can anyone tell me for sure if it has a meaning, and if so-what, or if my DH is mistaken?
Post # 3
I think you mean doily. A crocheted, ornamental mat?
There is no religious significance that I know of, or Wikipedia.
Post # 4
i don’t think it’s got anything to do with religion.
they’re crocheted, and they’re decorative.
Post # 5
I’ve never, ever heard of a doily being of any religious significance. Did the sender make it herself? In that case, it is a lovely and handmade gift, but that’s all.
Post # 6
@Chelle-Lee: Head coverings are not required in the Catholic church any more, and haven’t been in decades. It is simply a lovely gift. You might inquire if it I’d hand made though.
Post # 7
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My mom makes doillys for gifts for people sometimes, and it doesn’t have any religious meaning, and she is not too religious either.
Post # 8
As a Catholic, I can assure you that there is not any religious meaning with a doily. It’s just meant to be decorative, and possibly homemade!
Post # 9
I’m catholic and there isn’t anything religious about doilies. It’s just something decorative to display.
Post # 10
Thank you! That’s what I thought, I just wanted to be certain. And, yes, it was handmade.
Post # 11
Doilie as a religious item, well that certainly is a new one for this old bird… lol
As others have mentioned these are usually crocheted or tattted (like one makes lace) and are used as decorative items in a home.
They make a nice addition under say a vase of flowers on a “good table” to save the table top from damage if any water should spill when you are topping up the flowers.
As for headcoverings and catholics… as someone else mentioned this is no longer a thing… and even when it was, it wouldn’t have been a doily it would have been a scarf or mantilla
Which altho made from lace, has a lot more in common with a veil, than it ever would have with a doiley
Mantilla = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantilla
Hope this helps,
Post # 12
@Chelle-Lee: I think it’s just decorative.
Post # 13
@Chelle-Lee: It is traditional for a Catholic woman to wear a head-covering to church, but rarely done nowadays in the United States.
The image shown by @This Time Round: is not a veil a woman would wear to Mass in the United States, however, unless it is for her wedding. What is more commonly used is often called a “chapel veil:”
As you can see it looks a little like a doiley, bit it’s not. But I can see where your DH might confuse them. In the old days they often came in a little wallet-type thing (shown in the picture). I own a couple of these, although I wear them on extremely special occasions only – unmarried women and girls usually wear white and married women usually wear black, although there is no rule about this.
Another way you can tell is that a chapel veil will be more transparent with soft lace. It will normally be large enough to cover a lot of a woman’s hair. A doiley has stiffer fabric and is much smaller, usually large enough for a lamp to sit on.
So, unless this woman is a very traditional, conservative Catholic, it’s probably not a chapel veil. Especially if she knows your religious tradition does not include women veiling themselves during services. In that case it’s probably just a home decor accent! 🙂
Post # 14
TO @Magdalena: Interesting post… first time I’ve ever seen one that size or shape (so yes I can see the perceived confusion)
As I said in my OP, I’ve seen Hats, Headscarves and Veils in my timeframe with the Catholic Church … including ones like this:
Such coverings I have always known as being called a Veil or Mantilla.
The term “Chapel Veil”, for me has always been the Bridal Version that was a long veil that trailed one or two feet behind the gown.
Learn something new every day.
Post # 16
@Magdalena: I was wondering where the confusion had come from! lol