Post # 1
I hate people who drink and drive. It’s such a careless and life threatening act that can totally be avoided. I make a conscious effort to not drink if I know that I have to drive. On occasion I’ll have a beer but even that makes me uneasy (having one beer would literally do NOTHING to me so I am far from intoxicated when/if I drive). It seems like every day there’s a new story in the paper about DWI’s and almost all of them involve repeat offenders. Every story I’ve read lately has ended with “Such and such was released pending prosecution in city court”. I’m sorry but I don’t think that spending an hour or two in a holding cell is good enough. I know that they’ll eventually have to pay the price but I often don’t think that the punishment fits the crime. If the repercussions were more severe, maybe these repeat offenders would think twice about boozin’ it up and getting behind the wheel. Then again, you’ve got to be a whole new level of stupid to commit such a crime so maybe I’m giving them too much credit.
I know quite a few people who have gotten DWI’s. Some got popped once and paid dearly while others have 3, 4 even 5 under their belts. Those with multiple never served any jail time. They had their license’s revoked for an extended period of time (gee, who’s ever heard of operating a vehicle unlicensed?!) and paid tens of thousands of dollars in fines and legal fees but still never served any jail time. I just don’t think that’s right. I understand that the prisons are overrun with non-violent offenders but if you ask me, repeatedly getting behind the wheel and putting the lives of everyone else on the road at risk is enough of a reason to grant you a ticket to the slammer. Once you’ve committed the same crime a handful of times, it’s pretty apparent that you’re going to do it again regardless of whether or not your state acknowledges you as a licensed driver. Maybe you got lucky and didn’t injure anyone else (I would say yourself, too, but frankly I could really care less about that) but next time your luck may run out. It seems like it takes actually killing or injuring someone in order for DWI offenders to serve any time. So I ask…
Do you think the punishment fits the crime in DWI cases? If not, what should the repercussions be?
I personally think that anyone who blows over the limit should have to sit in jail for 48 hours, no questions. That will atleast give ‘em some time to think about what they’ve done and hopefully stop ‘em from ever doing it again (wishful thinking, I know). Beyond that, repeat offenders should automatically get a jail sentence. How long? I don’t know, but something is better than nothing. The revocation of licenses and hefty fines are obvious. Perhaps court ordered rehab for repeat offenders would be helpful, too.
Post # 3
I think it’s fairly simple- after the first offense, take away their DL for 6 months. After that, if it happens again, no driving. Ever. If you can’t drive responsibly, that’s ok- just don’t drive. That’s why we don’t let 13 year olds drive.
At one point, I didn’t spend responsibly, so the creditors wouldn’t give me any credit. So I stopped spending.
it’s a nonviolent (not purposefully anyway) offense, and I feel pretty strongly about nonviolent offenders being housed, clothed and fed in our jail system.
Post # 4
Repeat offenders make me sick. There was one up here about a year and a half ago that killed 3 colleged kids on their way home from a basketball game. Pulled off the side of the interstate to change a flat and he plowed into them going about 90mph.
My club did a benefit every year for a girl killed by a drunk driver while she was acting as Dirty Delete for her friends over Christmas break.
One offense? Shitton fine and a couple months of no license….but I would put this on a scale of ‘drunkeness’. I’d be a lot harder on Mr. 3x legal limit than the guy who just barely blows over.
Repeat offenders? Huge freaking fine and possible jail time.There is no excuse for it…..I would even argue that the repeat offenders could be charged with attempted manslaughter/murder. I’m living in WI now….and sometimes they are just so lax about it. How the hell does someone with 5 OWI/DUIs not get jail time and still have their frickin license?!
Post # 5
Yikes! Idk… I won’t drive if I’ve had more than 2, but that scares me that I could be over the limit and feel perfectly fine.
Cops are such jerks about it though! Two weekends ago I was pulled over for supposed drunk driving. I was stone cold sober! He made me feel like a criminal. I had to say the alphabet backwards (umm not easy even sober) and I had to walk the line. I was like “just breathalizer me already!! I’m sober!”.
I feel like the law already comes down hard on DUI’s. I know many people who’ve had their entire lives ruined by it and can’t even hold regular jobs anymore.
Post # 6
Repeat offenders are a real problem. A DUI is a big deal for a first offense IMO. I don’t think it’s joke or a slap on the wrist. But I think multiple offenses should be felonies with increasing jail time.
Post # 7
My view is a little different then most, I have an older sibling that has been convicted of 4 DIU’s. Almost 2 years ago was her last and shee spent a few months in jail with release from work and then was on house arrest. She has a license to drive to work now and will have the breathalizer machine in her car ifor the rest of her life I believe.
I personally think she should never be able to drive again. Thank god she hasn’t killed someone else, she has been close enough to killing herself and has damaged so many vehicles. As a PP said in WI were really don’t have much punishment compared to other states and I would be all for tougher laws.
Post # 8
What’s the difference between DUI and DWI? Here I think the legal term is just impaired driving. I think some of the new proposals are too strict. For someone who is truely drunk and driving, I think the first issue should be to see if they have a drinking problem and that should be addressed. I think for a one time thing, tempory loss of their licence and hefty fine are sufficient. More needs to be done to actually catch drunk drivers though. I used to do a fair bit of clubbing and many times was the Dirty Delete or had a Dirty Delete. I’ve been through a check stop twice. Once as the driver, once as a passenger. Never been through one on NYE and only went through one once for an annual university celebration even though I attended 6 times and you weren’t supposed to be able to drive off campus without going through a checkstop.
For someone who is a repeat offender, then I think jail time should be mandatory, as well as removing their licence, along with treatment. If they are able to eventually get their licence back, I’m all for the interlock system.
Post # 9
Jail.m It’s attemted murder, IMO. If they have an accident, and kill someone, it’s vehicular manslaughter. If they die, it should be deemed a suicide. They make a choice, reap the consequence.
I LOATHE people who drive drunk, and have ditched a lot of friends over the years because of their choices to do so. I have zero pity or sympathy for drunk drivers.
Post # 10
@ieatunicorns: I didn’t realize they actually did the breathalyzer in the car thing. In that case, I would do that for repeat offenders and keep them out of jail, as a PP said….they are nonviolent and it just sucks our tax money. Better to have them pay big fines and be pretty severely limited on driving.
My worry would be they get access to a different car.
Post # 11
@hisgoosiegirl: Thats my thought, too. It’s also not difficult to have someone else blow. There are many ways around the in car breathalyzer so I’m not sure that it’s really the best option. A hindrance, sure, but if they really wanted to drive drunk, I’m sure they’d be able to.
Post # 12
@hisgoosiegirl: Or have a “friend” blow for them, ugh.
Post # 13
Just because you restrict someone’s license or lock them up doesn’t mean they are going to learn their lesson. Drunk drivers don’t care if they drive over the legel limit, so I’m sure they don’t care if they drive with a suspended lesson. I would venture to guess that alot of these repeat offenders have alcohol problems. I just don’t know what the correct course of action should be.
Post # 14
I have a friend with a breathalyzer that activates a video camera. Kind of hard to trick that. Or it could use a fingerprint scanner.
As far as access to another car, it could happen, but it’s unlikely. I wouldn’t let a drunk friend with a DUI use my car, I would hope the odds are pretty slim that anyone else would.
Post # 15
@bells219: Yeah, I wouldn’t let a drunk friend use my car either, but I know when I lived at home, it would’ve been easy to grab my parent’s keys and take one of their cars. Of course, that’s only a risk if you’re drinking at home and then driving.
I like the breathalyzer for the cars, but I also agree that repeat offenders deserve severe repercussions – every single time they drink and drive, they risk killing someone. I’m not sure what the appropriate punishment is, for sure, but I have no objection to something like jail, house arrest, etc.
Post # 16
I think jail time is appropriate, along with fines and license suspension.
Less than a year after graduation, 3 boys from my high school were in a wreck. All 3 were intoxicated and high – the driver happened to live, the other two died. But any one of them could’ve been driving with the same outcome, which all 3 sets of parents had to painfully acknowledge. Driver went to jail for 3 years and I believe still has a suspended license after getting out. But he had to kill his best friends to get that kind of wake up call – I know all 3 of them probably drove high/drunk multiple times before the accident, and they never cared.
I just don’t understand why anyone would get behind the wheel impaired. Driving is dangerous as fuck under great conditions with a super careful, super alert driver. We forget how dangerous it is because we do it all the time, but it’s one of the riskiest acts humans perform and should be treated as such.