Post # 1
Good morning Bees!
So I am planning and saving for a $3,000 wedding in less then three months. Last week I called an old friend who I know takes pretty pictures and asked if she would take some engagments for me and Fiance to put on our invites. She very excitedly responded yes and yesterday we had the shoot. My thought was that because we are on an extreme budget maybe if she did nice job we would even offer her a little money to do our wedding. Well what I didn’t realize was that in the 4 years since I saw her, photography has turned into more then just a hobby. She does it as a side job. We never discussed a fee ahead of time, and naively I thought it would be free and thats how I pitched the idea to my very photo-shy VERY money safe Fiance.
The shoot was MUCH more then I expected! We spent over 3 1/2 hours yesterday at several parks and my friend the photog was simply wonderful, Fiance was very patient and just the few unedited shots I saw on the camera screen look amazing. Then last night after Fiance fell asleep I got a message from my friend/photog saying she was embarassed that she hadnt discussed her fee ahead of time. Because I’m a friend she proposed $150 for the shoot, the editing, a cd with all the copyrights to the photos, and even offered to hook us up with her favorite printing company. She is open to negotiating.
Even though I super naively thought it would be a couple unedited pics she would just send me over facebook I completely agree that if the pics turn out half as good as others ive seen her do, its worth it for her editing time alone. $150 is a steal infact. Beautiful photos are priceless.
I’m just embarassed I didn’t realize in the first place. I’m embarassed to admit I didn’t have engagements in my budget. And bummed because when I mentioned I’m looking for someone to do the wedding she quickly said “oh I dont do weddings, but I’d love to take engagements for you!”. Now its the next morning Fiance is at work and I still havent told him. I’m scared! lol
1. How do I respond to my friend as this (completely fair) $150 is not something I was prepared for and I am still barely working part time after moving back to the state last month?
2. How can I negotiate and convince my friend to do our wedding too when she said she doesnt do them? Because after yesterday I want her even more!
3. How do I tell my Fiance is WASN’T free afterall? (And that he will probably be the one to pay for the photos he didn’t want in the first place?)
~Hurry Quick, advise! Thanks for reading Bees!~
Post # 3
1. You could ask her if she can create you a budget price so you can pay her on a budget of the $150, or look elsewhere for a photographer that you can afford. Photography isn’t cheap. When someoen is in the business, they are out to make money. There are a ton of overhead costs involved in photography.
2. If she’s never done weddings before, don’t put her in this position. She won’t perform well under pressure. Wedding photography is a stressful job, and its demanding of the photographer. It’s a fast paced day, 1 chance to get the shot for the client and a ton of editing. Experience is a must for a photographer to feel comfortable photographing a wedding. Don’t pressure her if she doesn’t want, or doesn’t have the experience.
3. Just tell him the price. Maybe you two can negotiate a budget with your photographer to pay her.
4. My advice. If you are looking to pay a photographer for your wedding, why don’t you find one that includes a free engagement session into the wedding package.
Post # 4
@vadam2487: I would talk with your friend and let her know your issue with the budget. Let her know that perhaps you can pay part now and the rest after the wedding since its only 3 months away and she is a good friend.
I wouldn’t try to pressure her into wedding photography if she doesn’t do it, imagine how it could ruin your friendship if she doesn’t do the job you’re now expecting simply because she doesn’t have the experience doing it?
Also make sure any “Frendors” in the future you discuss if they expect to be paid and if so how much. If you feel awkward just let them know that its not that you don’t value what they add, its just that you’re on a really tight budget and need to make it work.
@rickhurst35: You seem to be responding as if the shoot didn’t already happen… I think you need to re-read her post, she can’t just “find someone that offers it free” the shoot has been done already
Post # 5
@Elky: 3. Just tell him the price. Maybe you two can negotiate a budget with your photographer to pay her. I can read, thanks.
Post # 6
@Elky: Thanks so much Elky! Everyone says to plan ahead for all the little costs you dont see coming and they are right. My lesson learned about discussing it upfront! To be honest when we set up the details for the shoot we were out at a local brewery and neither the “frendor” nor me were in much of a state of mind to think clearly about details. lol But I dont even mind because she is so warm, supportive, and talented, she deserves every penny. I want to show our appreciation for her! It’s just hard to admit to people how poor I am right now! lol
Post # 7
if she expected to be paid for the engagement shoot, she should have told you upfront. i don’t think you are under any obligation to pay her.
second, she doesn’t want to shoot your wedding, you will have to find someone else.
Post # 8
@rickhurst35: The point is we are not looking to pay a photographer, at least not one who is so expensive they can afford to do the extra shoot for free. And as Elky pointed out its a done deal. I’m not just going to still my friend when I am more pleased with her work then any “professional” I’ve paid in the past. One photographer became offended when he offered to do my wedding (without me even asking) for the bargain price of $1,500 as a special low rate because he liked me and I laughed in his face. Maybe if this were a $15,000 wedding. But I am untraditional. My venue was $100. My dress $275. And we are eating hot dogs. And camping in the woods. No sir, I will not spend more then 1/3 of my budget on you. I’d rather spend it on the honeymoon.