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    atalante    May 19, 2012  

    So, the whole wedding planning process was really a shock to me at first, mostly because there were a lot of things I never had to think about.

    Like certain aspects of etiquette.

    Case in point: my family doesn't have weddings often (I mean, the last generation did, but not this one). I'm the second oldest of my cousins, the first to get married, and it's a pretty small family. So I never even went to a wedding until I was in my teens, and that first one was for a girl I worked with (who was a bit older than I was at the time).

    I went to the shower and the wedding. And when I asked about gift giving, I was told that I could just bring my gift to the shower and that was sufficient.

    So for a long time I went about to weddings and just gifted at the shower, but it would be a gift for the most I could afford to spend (I've been a student forever).

    It never occurred to me that the answer I was given was wrong, so it took me a while to realize I should have brought gifts to shower AND wedding. And occassionally on the bee, I see brides mention people who failed to bring gifts and how rude those non-gift-givers are.

    And I kinda want to go back to those few people and send them presents because I failed at etiquette.

     

    Anyone else out there fail at etiquette in the past? Help me feel better!

     
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    hisgoosiegirl    June 18, 2011  

    Yep. Although I'm not sure if it was my bad or the bride's. The first wedding I attended as an adult (I went to maybe 3 ceremonies as a young child) came addressed only to me. I RSVP'd for my FI too. Looking back, he probably technically wasn't invited, but on the other hand, we were engaged and got engaged before the bride and her FI had so it wasn't like she didn't know.

    I've always kind of felt bad about it even though I know it didn't matter in the scheme of things - it was a nice fun wedding at a VFW hall so nothing big and fancy that he cost her a ton of money/screwed up the seating chart etc.

     
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    HeatherShane    October 29, 2011  

    I really think Gift giving Etiquette is ridiculous :) Honestly for those brides that think the guests are rude for not bringing a gift to both the shower AND wedding, they are actually being the rude ones here. Im not inviting people to my wedding for gifts, i want them to be there for our big day not so I can get something out of it.

    @hisgoosiegirl: This is different, I also did this, The invite was addressed to my FI and his dad and we marked it for three,  ooppps, but it is going to happen, so no big deal :) I talked to the bride afterwards she wasnt upset about it (at least she said she was upset)

     
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    GreenEyedMoon    January 14, 2012   Dallas

    I'm the same way as you.  I'm the first one of the current generation to get married.  My dad's youngest half-sister, who is only four years older than me, is the only family wedding I've been invited to as an adult.  Well, I say "adult," but what I mean is that I was a ninteen-year-old sophomore in college.  Her wedding was right before finals week, and I freaked out on the phone to my parents about how I would never have time to do everything I had to do.  They told me it was no big deal if I just didn't show up at the wedding (I would have had to fly across the country to get there), and my aunt wouldn't even notice.  They had already RSVP'd yes on my account.  I don't think they told her I wasn't going to come, though it was probably too late for her to get any of her money back, anyway.  :-\

    Two years ago, I flew back to the US (I was living in Japan at the time) for my very oldest friend's wedding.  We have known each other since we were six months old, and we were best friends growing up.  My parents stressed over and over and over again how I needed to get a really special present for her, and something off the registry just wouldn't cut it.  I finally made a set of eight bowls and mugs for her (I'm a pretty decent potter).  I had no clue if they matched anything they wanted, but that's what I did.  I now feel really guilty for it because I've seen so many other people here get upset about getting things like that.  I really hoped my friend and her husband liked them.  :-\  She's going to be my bridesmaid, though, so she obviously still likes me!

     
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    GreenEyedMoon    January 14, 2012   Dallas

    No one else has recently realized their previous terrible etiquette?  We can't be the only ones.  Share your guilt!

     
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    GreenGables    September 1, 2012  

    I committed a pretty major faux pas, in my opinion, when one of my third cousins (daughter of my dad's cousin) got married.  They had invited my parents, my siblings, and me.  I had been with my SO (my current FI) for a couple years, but he was not mentioned on the invite.  Well, my brother couldn't make it because he was going to be at boot camp, so one day my mom and I asked the bride's mom (my dad's cousin) if I could bring my SO instead since my brother couldn't make it.  The mom - who is seriously one of the loveliest, nicest people you will ever meet - graciously said, "Of course," so I took my SO.  And the following year when their second daughter got married she told me I should of course bring my SO to that wedding.

    I know technically all people in relationships should be given a plus one when invited, so some might say the error was on the part of the host, but to this day I still feel so bad for asking - especially now being a bride and knowing what a pain it is trying to plan and control a guest list.  My current self wants to go back and kick my own ass for being so rude.  I even feel like I need to "make it up" to them, even though realistically they probably don't even remember (it was about 4 years ago).  My dad's cousins, and their daughters with their hubbies, will all be invited to my wedding, but they each have a few little kids now, and I'm hoping there is no issue with the fact that the kiddos aren't invited, because I will feel really bad if I have to say no to them.

    ETA - GreenEeyedMoon, I don't think you should feel guilty for the handmade bowls and mugs!  Handmade gifts are lovely and thoughtful - who cares if they don't match the rest of their dining sets?  I'd be over the moon about a gift like that from an old friend, because it's so meaningful.  :-)

     
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    confettiegg2000    June 16, 2012   San Marcos/Austin, Texas - wedding in Blanco

    I was a junior bridesmaid in my older sister's wedding 10 years ago, and I didn't realize that bridesmaids had to actually DO anything. I mean, I was only 14 but in hindsight I wish I would have helped more with everything. At my first non-family wedding as an adult, I didn't bring a gift, and I probably dressed too casually (nice pants and a cotton top)... but it was also a 2PM ceremony with no meal served, so maybe not. Since then, I've been to 4 more friends' showers and weddings, been a bridesmaid, and gotten engaged, so now I feel like I know how it 'should be', and I try to be on top of the gift giving, attire, etc.

     
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    galloway111    June 16, 2012   WI

    Hm, I guess this is one of the advantages of getting married young. I've only been to 3 weddings since I was about 12 (I cn't remember ever having bad etiquette as a child but you never know, haha). Two of them were this summer, and I've been wedding planning since January so I was pretty conscious of all the etiquette and events. The other one was a family thing, and since I was 18 I was just included with my parents, and I didn't bring my SO. So I guess I'm set for etiquette in the future :) Until it changes and I don't realize it, lol.

     
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    Stammie16    March 31, 2012   NJ

    OK well I can think of 2 things:

    1) Last year FH got invited to an OOT wedding (ie he had to take a plane) and the invite was just addressed to him.  We were not engaged yet but living together.  He called the groom (a good friend from college) and made up a lame story about how the envelope got smudged and he couldn't tell if I was invited or not so he asked if I was invited and the guy said OK.  Now that I have been on this site for about 2 months I see the horrors involved with what we did...

    2) When I was still in college my aunt was getting married and I specifically asked if she would send me my own invitation for me and my current BF, so she did.  I RSVP'd yes for both of us.  The wedding weekend came and me and the BF were prepared for the 6 hour drive (was in school in Pittsburgh) but then he backed out at the last minute for some lame reason I can't remember.  I was going to drive there myself but then it was raining and BF convinced me to call my parents and tell them I wasn't going.  So I was a no-show.  Then I never sent a gift either.

    So....I think those 2 are pretty bad!

     
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    GreenEyedMoon    January 14, 2012   Dallas

    @GreenGables:  Thank you.  I still feel bad, but that makes me feel a bit better.  :)

    @confettiegg2000:  I think you're off the hook for not helping with your sister's wedding.  I honestly do not think that anyone can realistically expect a fourteen-year-old to help with wedding planning, not even for a close sibling.  Young teens are just way too caught up in the drama of their own lives to realize or care about the existence of a world outside of themselves.

    I'm also definitely guilty of being too casually dressed before.

     
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    atalante    May 19, 2012  

    Thanks for sharing bees! Laughing

     

    @GreenEyedMoon: I think the bowls/mugs was a lovely idea! This makes me think of my FI - our best friends got married almost 5 years ago (we were dating then) and we both were at the wedding but had planned to do separate gifts. He never got them anything. The other day, one of them mentioned something they could use in their new house, and he was like.. "Oh! I should get them that for their wedding!" *headdesk*

     

    Anyone else out there want to join the Etiquette Confessional?

     

     
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    Gemstone    July 2011   Cincinnati

    I got invited to a friend's wedding when I was a sophomore in HS (she was a few years older). I'd never been invited to a wedding myself before; all previous weddings had been family. And I was young, so I didn't get the importance of RSVPing to things. I think I was pretty lax on responding to both the shower and wedding invites. In retrospect, I feel bad about it. But I truly had no idea how it worked.

     
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    phoenixandstars    October 13, 2012   Mid-Michigan

    Totally guilty of not realizing you had to bring gifts to both the shower AND wedding! I always brought gifts for shower and nothing for wedding. I feel terrible in hindsight that I gave nothing to a few of my friends that got married when we were still young but at the very least I always did good on their shower. Whoops!

     
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    leafgum    June 17, 2012   Visalia, CA

    Wedding etiquette (especially gift etiquette!) makes me roll my eyes so hard. So much of this stuff is just pointless! That said, I don't think I've ever broken any wedding etiquette - probably because I've always just trooped along with my parents.

     
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    GreenEyedMoon    January 14, 2012   Dallas

    I'm so happy this thread has been revived.  :-D

     
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    philabride2bee    August 2011  

    Ok I have two:

    1) I wasn't invited to a cousin's wedding but I had my mom ask and I found out about a no cousins rule...but her mom let me come last minute when they had room for one more.  However I didn't feel bad when it came to my wedding and I did invite them...her sister RSVP'ed no...then asked wait can I come now and we changed it to yes after we'd submitted our table counts etc to the venue and we had to change it...and then the day before she told us she couldn't come after all!

    2) DH asked a friend if I was invited to a wedding when the invitation was addressed to him only.  However the friend claimed of course I was, she just didn't know my name and thought it would be rude to put "and guest."  I don't know if she was giving a little white lie or not, but we're all good friends now!

     
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    MaggieL    September 29, 2012   Ohio

    I am definitely guilty of RSVPing for 2- when looking back- it was probably just an invite for me, even though I had been dating my now FI for at least 3 years at that point! Didn't honestly think anything of it until I started reading the wedding blogs...and hoping that people don't do that for my wedding!

     
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    Future MrsB    May 27, 2012   Live outside Boston, Wedding in Saratoga NY

    I don't have any ettiquette blunders, but I do have a totally different perspective on wedding ettiquette since starting to plan my own.  I used to think all guests should be entitled to have a date, but now that I'm frantically trying to fit everyone on our guest list into the venue I see it's not so black and white.

     
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    Jamiezilla    July 13, 2013   New Jersey

    I was invited to a wedding just myself not with a +1.  After receiving the invite, I turned to my mom and said "wow, I guess I need to find someone to be my date!"  She quickly told me that it was just me that was invited.  Thankfully I found out that little tidbit before just showing up with someone.

     

    I also made a similar faux pas when I was a student.  Forgot to bring a gift to the wedding and then honestly could not scrimp together the money to mail a check to the couple within the allotted time.  My fiance and I were kind of strapped after driving four hours and staying the night at the Hilton where there reception was held too.  I guess one could say we shouldn't have said yes if we couldn't afford a gift though.

     
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    thursdayschild    May 19, 2012   Port Hueneme, CA

    My cousin was getting married several years ago. A different cousin asked me if I was bringing my then boyfriend. We'd been together 4 years but lived 8 hours apart so I'm sure he wasn't even a guest consideration. I asked my mom, she said sure I can bring him and when it came time to respond my mother responded that he was coming even though we hadn't cleared it with the bride. Whoops!

    Nothing was ever said to us, but now that I'm planning my own wedding I'm looking back thinking "shit, I feel like I need to apologize" lol.

     
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    ticatica    July 2012   UK

    I wore a white dress to a wedding. I honestly had no idea.

     
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    FutureFoxWife    October 20, 2012   NY

    material gift to shower, money gift to wedding is what ithought? I heard once that it was rude to bring money to shower and rude to bring a boxed gift to a wedding!

     
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    cmvmph    June 30, 2012   Hudson Valley, NY

    @HeatherShane: Couldn't have said it better myself! I think it's just as rude to be upset with someone who only can't afford to cover the cost of their plate as a gift. My FH and I were invited to many weddings throughout our nearly 5 year relationship thus far, at times when we were financially well off and other times when we were both laid off from our jobs. We could not always afford to give $250 as a gift, but we did give as much as we could and sometimes an extra side gift to show a personal, caring touch. As HeatherShane said, "gift-giving ettiquite" is just ridiculous, almost an oxymoron.

     
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    Booknerd    March 14, 2015  

    I've only been to 3 family weddings and well, I was younger, being in the bridal party of the 1st one (as a candle lighter? lol!) so, pretty much I followed examples set for me.
    But I have been to 2 weddings as a photographer so etiquette is COMPLETELY different as that! I've never personally had to buy gifts or anything like that unless you cunt this past summer, but again, I didn't buy anything as the gift was made by my mother and from the family. So yeah, no idea on the proper etiquette as a guest or anything. :/
    Are there books or lists out there for guests or those planning their wedding?

     
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    kylesblaire    April 7, 2012  

    I not give a gift at both the shower and the wedding. I was raised that the point of a shower was to get the gifts to the bride before the wedding. Otherwise, I think it's rude to invite people to your shower - at the wedding, you're inviting them to a celebration, feeding them, etc. The only point of a shower is for you to ring the couple a gift. If my shower gift doesn't count for the wedding gift, I'd rather not receive the shower invite. With that said, I did attend a friend's weddig without a gift because even attending broke my student budget and I assumed it was important to her that I go, so I scrimped so I could. I will be 100% fine if people with budget constraints spend their funds to come to our wedding rather than to buy us a gift and I hope that, if people feel inclined to get us gifts, they do not feel that they need to buy us a shower AND a wedding gift.

     
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    Aisling10    June 23, 2012  

    I haven't committed any major etiquette blunders but I do remember how horrible I felt when I was all excited (as a 14 year old girl) to get invited to a wedding shower of a girl I grew up figure skating with, only to find out (at the shower) that she "was having a very small wedding" and almost half the people at the shower weren't invited.  I had gone and agonized over what gift to get her, it was the first time I'd been invited to something like that and the first time I'd even heard of a registry.  So to get all dressed up and stress over the perfect gift for this older "cooler" girl and spend so much time trying not to seem like a lame 14 year old, it really hurt to find out we weren't invited. 

     

    So to this day, this is considered the worst blunder you can make in my book.  Don't invite people to your shower, accept the gift and then say "you're not important enough to pay for/invite to my exclusive event"

     
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    kerensa    May 20, 2013   Ohio

    I went to my boss's wedding and I was always told that you needed to "cover your plate". At the time I was a contractor and not getting many hours (and of course my boss knew that!) and my FI was a student. The boss's parents threw him a big wedding at a fancy hotel and we ended up giving a lot of money. My boss called later and asked if we wanted it back (etiquette fail!) as he knew how little we made!

    At a family wedding, the MIL called all the guests that didn't give presents and berated them! Then the happy couple forgot to send thank-you cards for 8 months, oops!

     
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    pigzfly    September 3, 2011  

    I would say my mistake has been not RSVPing with "No" to a friend's wedding.  We were both students at the time and I couldn't afford to fly to the US.  She emailed and it was totally fine, but now I worry that she spent time worrying about emailing me and stressing about her RSVPs!

    Offences I've heard of, or experienced myself: the RSVP for more than the # indicated on the invite... especially when it was over guests my spouse wasn't too keen on having in the first place, let alone a 2 month old boyfriend +1s. 

    Also - A card people.  I know people are students, I know people have spent lots to come, etc.  Please, just a card!  There was basically an inverse relationship between size of gift and quantity of words, but the cards with writing and letters in them were very, very much valued by us!!  We loved reading them and really appreciated the time taken to write them. 

     
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    ArwenBride    December 4, 2010   Toronto, ON

    OH man...these stories make me feel better.  :)

    The worst thing that I've ever done was to ( at a party no less) go up to a friend of mine who was getting married and ask that she please invite my boyfriend at the time when extending me an invite to the wedding.  This still makes me cringe because:

    -I didn't even know if I had been invited at that point

    -I definitely wouldn't have been invited "and guest" because I had only been dating this guy for 9 months.  

    It/I was ridiculous.

    I got the invite and it said "and guest"...and....I couldn't go to the wedding, RSVP'd no and broke up with my boyfriend (for unrelated reasons... :D).  LOL  You better believe I sent a gift.  I felt like SUCH an ass.

     
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    andilene    June 2, 2012   Waukesha, WI

    @kerensa: You know what, that was really nice of your boss though to be concerned for you! Most people aren't so thoughtful, even if it was kind of tacky LOL :)

     
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    MsGolightly    June 11, 2013   A Torontonian living in Vancouver

    Oy - I'm guilty of contributing online to honeymoon funds and then showing up empty-handed to the wedding, without even a card. For some reason it never occurred to me to give one, since I had already given the gift beforehand.  Even my sister's wedding where I was MOH - I was so wrapped up in helping out leading up to and on the big day, that it never crossed my mind to actually give her a card.  I figured my speech would let her and her husband know how I felt. 

    Going forward, I will always remember to bring a card to the wedding, no matter what.  I have read over and over on WB about how much the couple appreciates cards.  I feel so guilty!!!!

     
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    MsGolightly    June 11, 2013   A Torontonian living in Vancouver

    @andilene & @kerensa: Your stories remind me of when I was a lowly university student working part time each summer at a golf club... my amazingly kind boss invited us all to his awesome wedding, and the night before I realized that I hadn't gotten them a gift.  So... all I could do was write a cheque on my last, crumpled up cheque.  I was quite embarrassed to give it to him but didn't really have a choice at that point.  I think it was for $100.  In any event, he never cashed it.  I think back to how lame and pathetic that cheque must have looked, like I had been carrying it around for years waiting for the right moment to use it...  it looked so sh*tty, hahahahaha.  He must have known that I needed that $100 more than he did, lol.

     

     
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    mcklough    August 18, 2012   Oneonta NY

    I was a bridesmaid in my friends wedding when I was 19, not only did I not go to the bridal shower (because I had to work at Wendys and didn't ask for it off) but I also got TRASHED even before the reception started and I could hardly even walk when we got introduced into the reception....embarassing to this day

     
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    chasesgirl    December 30, 2011   East Texas

    I never got my big sister anything for her wedding :/ To my credit I was a broke freshmen in college without a job. But I did do a whole heck of a lot to help her the wedding! So I dont feel TOO awful. 

     

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