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Etiquette is important when talking about infertility too (not just weddings)

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    MapleBecky    July 9, 2011   Canada

    I just stumbled on a good site and I thought it never hurts to help share information.  I never, ever thought I would be in the infertility club, but here I am.  We are greiving the loss of having a baby the natural way, as my husband does not have sperm.  We need to now find out if we can get some from his testicles to do IVF and ICSI.

    Anyway, I thought I would share.  I think many people don't realize that their comments can be really hurtful. 

    Infertility Etiquette

     

    Chances are, you know someone who is struggling with infertility. More than seven million people of childbearing age in the United States experience infertility. Yet, as a society, we are woefully uninformed about how to best provide emotional support for our loved ones during this painful time.

    Infertility is, indeed, a very painful struggle. The pain is similar to the grief over losing a loved one, but it is unique because it is a recurring grief. When a loved one dies, he isn't coming back. There is no hope that he will come back from the dead. You must work through the stages of grief, accept that you will never see this person again, and move on with your life.

    The grief of infertility is not so cut and dry. Infertile people grieve the loss of the baby that they may never know. They grieve the loss of that baby who would have had mommy's nose and daddy's eyes. But, each month, there is the hope that maybe that baby will be conceived after all. No matter how hard they try to prepare themselves for bad news, they still hope that this month will be different. Then, the bad news comes again, and the grief washes over the infertile couple anew. This process happens month after month, year after year. It is like having a deep cut that keeps getting opened right when it starts to heal.

    As the couple moves into infertility treatments, the pain increases while the bank account depletes. The tests are invasive and embarrassing to both parties, and you feel like the doctor has taken over your bedroom. And for all of this discomfort, you pay a lot of money.

    A couple will eventually resolve the infertility problem in one of three ways:

    • They will eventually conceive a baby.

     

    • They will stop the infertility treatments and choose to live without children.

     

    • They will find an alternative way to parent, such as by adopting a child or becoming a foster parent.

    Reaching a resolution can take years, so your infertile loved ones need your emotional support during this journey. Most people don't know what to say, so they wind up saying the wrong thing, which only makes the journey so much harder for their loved ones. Knowing what not to say is half of the battle to providing support.

    Don't Tell Them to Relax

    Everyone knows someone who had trouble conceiving but then finally became pregnant once she "relaxed." Couples who are able to conceive after a few months of "relaxing" are not infertile. By definition, a couple is not diagnosed as "infertile" until they have tried unsuccessfully to become pregnant for a full year. In fact, most infertility specialists will not treat a couple for infertility until they have tried to become pregnant for a year. This year weeds out the people who aren't infertile but just need to "relax." Those that remain are truly infertile.

    Comments such as "just relax" or "try going on a cruise" create even more stress for the infertile couple, particularly the woman. The woman feels like she is doing something wrong when, in fact, there is a good chance that there is a physical problem preventing her from becoming pregnant.

    These comments can also reach the point of absurdity. As a couple, my husband and I underwent two surgeries, numerous inseminations, hormone treatments, and four years of poking and prodding by doctors. Yet, people still continued to say things like, "If you just relaxed on a cruise . . ." Infertility is a diagnosable medical problem that must be treated by a doctor, and even with treatment, many couples will NEVER successfully conceive a child. Relaxation itself does not cure medical infertility.

    Don't Minimize the Problem

    Failure to conceive a baby is a very painful journey. Infertile couples are surrounded by families with children. These couples watch their friends give birth to two or three children, and they watch those children grow while the couple goes home to the silence of an empty house. These couples see all of the joy that a child brings into someone's life, and they feel the emptiness of not being able to experience the same joy.

    Comments like, "Just enjoy being able to sleep late . . . .travel . . etc.," do not offer comfort. Instead, these comments make infertile people feel like you are minimizing their pain. You wouldn't tell somebody whose parent just died to be thankful that he no longer has to buy Father's Day or Mother's Day cards. Losing that one obligation doesn't even begin to compensate for the incredible loss of losing a parent. In the same vein, being able to sleep late or travel does not provide comfort to somebody who desperately wants a child.

    Don't Say There Are Worse Things That Could Happen

    Along the same lines, don't tell your friend that there are worse things that she could be going through. Who is the final authority on what is the "worst" thing that could happen to someone? Is it going through a divorce? Watching a loved one die? Getting raped? Losing a job?

    Different people react to different life experiences in different ways. To someone who has trained his whole life for the Olympics, the "worst" thing might be experiencing an injury the week before the event. To someone who has walked away from her career to become a stay-at-home wife for 40 years, watching her husband leave her for a younger woman might be the "worst" thing. And, to a woman whose sole goal in life has been to love and nurture a child, infertility may indeed be the "worst" thing that could happen.

    People wouldn't dream of telling someone whose parent just died, "It could be worse: both of your parents could be dead." Such a comment would be considered cruel rather than comforting. In the same vein, don't tell your friend that she could be going through worse things than infertility.

    Don't Say They Aren't Meant to Be Parents

    One of the cruelest things anyone ever said to me is, "Maybe God doesn't intend for you to be a mother." How incredibly insensitive to imply that I would be such a bad mother that God felt the need to divinely sterilize me. If God were in the business of divinely sterilizing women, don't you think he would prevent the pregnancies that end in abortions? Or wouldn't he sterilize the women who wind up neglecting and abusing their children? Even if you aren't religious, the "maybe it's not meant to be" comments are not comforting. Infertility is a medical condition, not a punishment from God or Mother Nature.

    Don't Ask Why They Aren't Trying IVF

    In vitro fertilization (IVF) is a method in which the woman harvests multiple eggs, which are then combined with the man's sperm in a petri dish. This is the method that can produce multiple births. People frequently ask, "Why don't you just try IVF?" in the same casual tone they would use to ask, "Why don't you try shopping at another store?"

    Don't Be Crude

    It is appalling that I even have to include this paragraph, but some of you need to hear this-Don't make crude jokes about your friend's vulnerable position. Crude comments like "I'll donate the sperm" or "Make sure the doctor uses your sperm for the insemination" are not funny, and they only irritate your friends.

    Don't Complain About Your Pregnancy

    This message is for pregnant women-Just being around you is painful for your infertile friends. Seeing your belly grow is a constant reminder of what your infertile friend cannot have. Unless an infertile women plans to spend her life in a cave, she has to find a way to interact with pregnant women. However, there are things you can do as her friend to make it easier.

    The number one rule is DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR PREGNANCY. I understand from my friends that, when you are pregnant, your hormones are going crazy and you experience a lot of discomfort, such as queasiness, stretch marks, and fatigue. You have every right to vent about the discomforts to any one else in your life, but don't put your infertile friend in the position of comforting you.

    Your infertile friend would give anything to experience the discomforts you are enduring because those discomforts come from a baby growing inside of you. When I heard a pregnant woman complain about morning sickness, I would think, "I'd gladly throw up for nine straight months if it meant I could have a baby." When a pregnant woman would complain about her weight gain, I would think, "I would cut off my arm if I could be in your shoes."

    I managed to go to baby showers and hospitals to welcome my friends' new babies, but it was hard. Without exception, it was hard. Stay sensitive to your infertile friend's emotions, and give her the leeway that she needs to be happy for you while she cries for herself. If she can't bring herself to hold your new baby, give her time. She isn't rejecting you or your new baby; she is just trying to work her way through her pain to show sincere joy for you. The fact that she is willing to endure such pain in order to celebrate your new baby with you speaks volumes about how much your friendship means to her.

    Don't Treat Them Like They Are Ignorant

    For some reason, some people seem to think that infertility causes a person to become unrealistic about the responsibilities of parenthood. I don't follow the logic, but several people told me that I wouldn't ache for a baby so much if I appreciated how much responsibility was involved in parenting.

    Let's face it-no one can fully appreciate the responsibilities involved in parenting until they are, themselves, parents. That is true whether you successfully conceived after one month or after 10 years. The length of time you spend waiting for that baby does not factor in to your appreciation of responsibility. If anything, people who have been trying to become pregnant longer have had more time to think about those responsibilities. They have also probably been around lots of babies as their friends started their families.

    Perhaps part of what fuels this perception is that infertile couples have a longer time to "dream" about what being a parent will be like. Like every other couple, we have our fantasies-my child will sleep through the night, would never have a tantrum in public, and will always eat his vegetables. Let us have our fantasies. Those fantasies are some of the few parent-to-be perks that we have-let us have them. You can give us your knowing looks when we discover the truth later.

    Don't Gossip About Your Friend's Condition

    Infertility treatments are very private and embarrassing, which is why many couples choose to undergo these treatments in secret. Men especially are very sensitive to letting people know about infertility testing, such as sperm counts. Gossiping about infertility is not usually done in a malicious manner. The gossipers are usually well-meaning people who are only trying to find out more about infertility so they can help their loved ones.

    Regardless of why you are sharing this information with someone else, it hurts and embarrasses your friend to find out that Madge the bank teller knows what your husband's sperm count is and when your next period is expected. Infertility is something that should be kept as private as your friend wants to keep it. Respect your friend's privacy, and don't share any information that your friend hasn't authorized.

    Don't Push Adoption (Yet)

    Adoption is a wonderful way for infertile people to become parents. (As an adoptive parent, I can fully vouch for this!!) However, the couple needs to work through many issues before they will be ready to make an adoption decision. Before they can make the decision to love a "stranger's baby," they must first grieve the loss of that baby with Daddy's eyes and Mommy's nose. Adoption social workers recognize the importance of the grieving process. When my husband and I went for our initial adoption interview, we expected the first question to be, "Why do you want to adopt a baby?" Instead, the question was, "Have you grieved the loss of your biological child yet?" Our social worker emphasized how important it is to shut one door before you open another.

    You do, indeed, need to grieve this loss before you are ready to start the adoption process. The adoption process is very long and expensive, and it is not an easy road. So, the couple needs to be very sure that they can let go of the hope of a biological child and that they can love an adopted baby. This takes time, and some couples are never able to reach this point. If your friend cannot love a baby that isn't her "own," then adoption isn't the right decision for her, and it is certainly not what is best for the baby.

    Mentioning adoption in passing can be a comfort to some couples. (The only words that ever offered me comfort were from my sister, who said, "Whether through pregnancy or adoption, you will be a mother one day.") However, "pushing" the issue can frustrate your friend. So, mention the idea in passing if it seems appropriate, and then drop it. When your friend is ready to talk about adoption, she will raise the issue herself.

    So, what can you say to your infertile friends? Unless you say "I am giving you this baby," there is nothing you can say that will erase their pain. So, take that pressure off of yourself. It isn't your job to erase their pain, but there is a lot you can do to lesson the load. Here are a few ideas.

    Let Them Know That You Care

    The best thing you can do is let your infertile friends know that you care. Send them cards. Let them cry on your shoulder. If they are religious, let them know you are praying for them. Offer the same support you would offer a friend who has lost a loved one. Just knowing they can count on you to be there for them lightens the load and lets them know that they aren't going through this alone.

    Remember Them on Mother's Day

    With all of the activity on Mother's Day, people tend to forget about women who cannot become mothers. Mother's Day is an incredibly painful time for infertile women. You cannot get away from it-There are ads on the TV, posters at the stores, church sermons devoted to celebrating motherhood, and all of the plans for celebrating with your own mother and mother-in-law.

    Mother's Day is an important celebration and one that I relish now that I am a mother. However, it was very painful while I was waiting for my baby. Remember your infertile friends on Mother's Day, and send them a card to let them know you are thinking of them. They will appreciate knowing that you haven't "forgotten" them.

    Support Their Decision to Stop Treatments

    No couple can endure infertility treatments forever. At some point, they will stop. This is an agonizing decision to make, and it involves even more grief. Even if the couple chooses to adopt a baby, they must still first grieve the loss of that baby who would have had mommy's nose and daddy's eyes.

    Once the couple has made the decision to stop treatments, support their decision. Don't encourage them to try again, and don't discourage them from adopting, if that is their choice. Once the couple has reached resolution (whether to live without children, adopt a child, or become foster parents), they can finally put that chapter of their lives behind them. Don't try to open that chapter again.

    Taken from: http://www.resolve.org/support-and-services/for-family--friends/infertility-etiquette.html

     
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    kay01    May 27, 2012   NH/VT

    Thank you.  I forwarded that page onto someone close to me that is experiencing infertility.

     
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    MapleBecky    July 9, 2011   Canada

    It's sad, I am guilty of even saying some of those things before facing IF myself.   And I used to think I was being sensitive.   I kick myself when I think back to a conversation I had with a co-worker a few years ago.

    I can't believe how many times I have heard a lot of the things in that article since we got our diagnosis at noon on Dec 1.   I could barely function at first, and on random days since then.  I couldn't believe some of the ignorant and painful comments from well-meaning friends and family.

    So, I thought that if posting this helps prevent one of my IF sisters from experiencing more pain, or preventing someone from unknowingly putting their foot in their mouth, it is worth it.

     
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    brideatbeach    June 4, 2011  

    Thanks for sharing. I don't know if we will be able to have kids as we have are not at the point where we are actively trying, but a friend of mine is unable to have children. She called me one day sobbing because someone at church had told her maybe she wasn't meant to have children and should just be happy God blessed her with a great husband. So NOT comforting...

     
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    redsmarties    May 2010   Ontario

    Thank you. I'm so glad to hear that there ARE people in the world who 'get it'. If one more person tells me to 'relax', or joke that I'm too valuable at my job to ever get pregnant, I might lose it. Most of these points are extremely valid.

    The one thing I don't have an issue with, (though I completely understand how its a valid concern) is other women complaining about their pregnancies. I don't mind hearing how an expecting-mama is doing, if I'm close to them. Lets me dream a little about what it will be like.

     
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    xshellx2003    April 30, 2011   Ohio

    I posted something similar on my fb and my friends weren't really aware of the things they shouldn't say. 

     
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    MapleBecky    July 9, 2011   Canada

    It's not really the complaining in general, just don't call me right now and expect me to feel sorry for you.   It likely won't happen for us.   Complain to someone who is not hurting.

    It would be like complaining about your child to someone who has just lost their own child.  Would you call someone who is grieving to complain about the very thing they lost?

    (I know you get it, but just wanted to clarify my own feelings about it.)

     
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    MissGreen    July 2009  

    Thank you from someone who's still struggling with my grief over 6 mths later and now dealing with judgements about our choice to adopt. I'm sorry you've had to endure this.

     
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    fvsoccer    November 4, 2011   Colorado

    Thank you for sharing this. I'm not in this situation, but I think it is important to get this kind of information out there so people can be more empathetic and helpful in hard times. 

     
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    kerensa    May 20, 2013   Ohio

    Oh my goodness. Some of these things are so hurtful and mean! It's hard to believe people can be so insensitive.

    This is a good post. Sometimes I think we should learn etiquette in school just so fewer of us can have our feelings hurt.

     
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    SFreeman2187    September 10, 2011  

    Relax my ASS! We don't need a vacation. We need a baby.

     
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    MerryC    September 2008   WA

    Thanks for sharing this.

    And I commend you for referring to your personal challenges as "our diagnosis".  That is the best possible attitude that you can have going into this effort with your hubby.  It's amazing how quickly things can get divisive between a couple when it turns into "your problem" or "I can't give you a baby".

    Last - I read a similar article on the Attain website that stated that a person going through infertility has the psychological level of grief with every failed cycle that aligns with when a sibling or other close family member dies.  That's intense, but something that helps the loss 'click' for others.

     
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    MapleBecky    July 9, 2011   Canada

    @MerryC:  I didn't even realize I was referring to it as our diagnosis, but it definitely is. Interesting about that article-- I really did feel like I lost a baby when we found out.   I even remember thinking to myself that if it was a miscarriage, we would have had hope since we would have known that we could conceive.  Right now, we are sterile.  This has been the hardest 6 weeks of my life.

     
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    Mrs Green Grass    August 14, 2010  

    This is such a comprehensive list and explanation!  Thanks for sharing.

    @redsmarties: I'm not ok with pregnancy complaints.  Maybe I'm scarred because as I told a coworker that I had just started bleeding because of a chemical pg (because she was the only one around and I needed to tell someone) she responded by listing her current pregnancy complaints.  I wanted to hit her. 

    But I am ok with hearing it if I have asked how they are feeling.  My sister is pregnant and I ask her all the time and I sincerely want to know. 

    @MissGreen: That is so frustrating and unfair for people not to be 100% supportive of your decision to adpot.  It's a hard and very brave decision!

     
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    2PeasinaPod       Philadelphia

    Thanks so much for sharing this list. I wish I could share it with so many people in my life right now...

     
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    spoiledvamp27    October 13, 2012   Alabama

    Thank you for posting this. I am not currently TTC and don't plan on doing so for years down the road, and I also do not know anyone personally going through this process, but it was great information for me to learn for if I encounter this in the future. Hopefully I won't end up in a situation where I look back and want to kick myself for having said something insensitive. You ladies are so strong, and I wish you all the best of luck.

     
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    MrsFarmer    June 4, 2011   Canada

    Thank you SO much for sharing this!  I think some of this etiquette can also apply to couples who haven't been diagnosed as infertile yet but haven't had any luck with TTC.  We've been unsuccessful in TTC for 8 months and DH is so frustrated with going to church on the weekends because some well-meaning but insensitive person will ask us when the baby is due or if I'm pregnant yet. :S

     
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    MrsFarmer    June 4, 2011   Canada

    @MapleBecky: I also want to add that I am so sorry for your diagnosis and what you've had to go through in the last six weeks...I can't imagine.  I wish you all the best as you continue on your journey.  You and your DH will be in my thoughts and prayers.

     
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    TurtleDoves    July 18, 2010   Toledo,Ohio

    Omgosh my heart goes out to anyone who has people in their lives who do this to them! Infertility is such a HUGE thing and it's emtremely sensitive...I can't imagine ever being so hurtful about it. I am so glad you posted this. It'll be a constant reminder of the pain and struggle couples go through:(

    I can not fathom this: "Don't Say They Aren't Meant to Be Parents" <<seriously people?! Do you have no hearts?

    Or this: "Don't Say They Aren't Meant to Be Parents" <I have a co-worker whose uterus is "V" shaped and basically she miscarries everytime she gets pregnant. After 6 years with no kids, people tell her to do IVF. IVF won't help when your uterus will not hold children! People are so ignorant sometimes....:(

    My thoughts are with you, OP

     
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    TurtleDoves    July 18, 2010   Toledo,Ohio

    @MissGreen: OH, and I'd like to have a talkn to whoever is judging you over your decision to adopt....Adoption is the most admirable thing in this universe. There are innocent, beautiful children all over the world who want nothing more than 1 parent to love them....If a happy couple wants to do that: they shouldn't be judged. They should be praised. ...I support your decision! I would love to see you posting threads about your journey if it pleases you :) you can always come here to find a big gang of supporters=)

     
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    jaguar    June 11, 2011  

    This list is so true. The well-meaning comments tend to hurt the most - just telling us to relax, that *insert name here* stopped 'trying' and it just happened, that *insert name here* has PCOS and had a big night out and BOOM, BABY. They don't make me feel better about being infertile. They make me feel worse for being the exception to the rule. 

    Hugs to everyone in similar boats. 

     
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    cbee    July 26, 2010  

    This is a good reminder.  I think as a society, we are relatively naive about this subject.  I remember when I was younger (in the midwest) I assumed everyone could and DID have children.  I remember asking my friends (who were older and married) why they wanted to adopt, why they wouldn't want to have their own children etc.  I don't know if they could have children, but regardless, I feel terrible that I was ignorantly going on about it.  Who knows if they were struggling with something?  I just didn't know how difficult it actually is to conceive back then... and now I would never say something.  Another couple I knew (I was 20, they were married and 30) were choosing not to have children and I remember asking my boyfriend at the time (who was best friends with them) why they weren't having children?  Wouldn't they be great parents, etc.  He said that the woman works with kids all day... My point is that I didn't realize the struggle so many people go through, and that anyone may or may not be going through it... I guess you just never know someone else's situation and I wish I had known so I could have been more careful with my words- I wouldn't have said anything at all.  Sometimes you just don't know until you are in their shoes.

     
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    Magdalena    December 1, 2011  

    Maybe this doesn't count as infertility but having just had a d&c today when I would have been almost 11 weeks, I have had more well-meaning rude remarks than I thought possible. My favorite, "you can always have another." First of all, can I have access to your crystal ball, because there are women who can get pregnant at the drop of a hat but never have a live birth. And secondly, if I did have another it wouldn't replace this baby in any way shape or form.

    I have also had people ask me if I "did something" to lose the pregnancy. Also, one lady told me "at least it wasn't a real baby yet."

     
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    Mrs.Enne    January 9, 2010   NC

    Thank you so much for posting this! DH and I aren't TTC yet but a lot friends/friends-of-friends are. I read this last night and this afternoon I went to lunch with a girlfriend. She started telling me how her best friend and her husband are TTC and she just found out that she has endometriosis. My friend said she tried to "lighten the mood" --10 minutes after her friend told her about the diagnosis-- by saying that at least she never had to worry about accidentally getting pregnant in high school. I was shocked! Though I never would have said anything like this, I didn't realize it was so common for people to think that saying something like that is helpful. If I hadn't read this post, I might not have had the courage to tell her that her comment was inappropriate and most likely very hurtful.

    For all the bees going through struggles with infertility, I will be keeping all you in my prayers!

     
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    MapleBecky    July 9, 2011   Canada

    I had someone tell me today that all we needed was acupuncture and to see a naturopath, it would fix my husbands "sperm issue."  She added that they would do way more than any doctor would.

    He makes no sperm.  None.  You could stick a thousand needles in his body and it will not make him make any.  

    It's likely a genetic issue, from what I have read, and I doubt someone would suggest acupuncture to cure CF or another genetic issue.  :(

     

    I'm glad this post helped.  I hesitated posting it.

     

     
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    jaguar    June 11, 2011  

    @MapleBecky: It definitely did. Much love to you & dh! xx

     
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    heathaah    September 2009  

    I LOVE THIS!  Thank you so much for posting it! 

    ETA:  I almost shit myself, seriously, when a "friend" told me (while I was going thru infertility treatments) "You think you are a pin cushion now??  Wait til you get pregnant!!"  Ummm...

    Ok, so now that I am pregnant (at 27 weeks) I have had maybe 7 needles so far?  I was lucky if, for the year and a half that I went through treatments, I had ONLY 7 needle pricks in a month!  And as many of you know, that is on the low side as I was doing Clomid with triggers and regular intercourse.  If someone has absolutely no idea what they are talking about, then they seriosuly need to STFU.

     
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    MapleBecky    July 9, 2011   Canada

    I think that a lot of people don't know what to say, so they don't think things through.   I had someone else say something somewhat hurtful tonight about our IF, but I know she meant it in a nice way.

    It's something I really thought I understood before, but I had no idea how deep that hole really would feel.   Some articles say that women with IF face the same degree of depression that people with heart disease and cancer face.  I would never have believed it until now that I am living it.

     
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    Candy_Nee    May 1, 2010   Raleigh, NC

    Thank you for posting this!!  I'm lucky, I guess b/c I've only had to go through a few of those.  Of course, gettng told to "relax" almost seems like the automatic response to we're struggling to have a baby.  Yes, relaxation is exactly what I need and it's just so easy.  Ugh.  I was going through all my IF treatments when I had 2 friends get pregnant on the first try within 6 weeks of eachother.  It was hell.  What was even worse was when every time we'd get together (a few times a month), they'd compare pregnancies, complain, and plan.  It was literally some of the hardest times of my life.  If only I had had this then...

     
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    MapleBecky    July 9, 2011   Canada

    I'm so sorry.   It seems like everyone I know has gotten pregnant this year.  It's so hard, everyone is talking about babies.  Even DH is struggling, his boss's wife just had a baby and he even said that all the baby talk at work is killing him.

    I wish I could post this on my FB without announcing to everyone that we are experiencing IF.

     
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    Mrs Green Grass    August 14, 2010  

    @MapleBecky:  I know I really want to gather some support on FB but without telling everybody!  I'm pretty sure one of my college friends had a miscarriage, but I felt weird asking.  I'm sure a lot of my friends are dealing with the same thing I am...

     
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    MrsCarnival    May 19, 2012   Minnesota

    Thank you posting this. We are not currently TTC, but I am actively monitoring my cycles because we intend to after the wedding. We don't want to waste time because my Mom had some problems and we'd rather see where we stand sooner than later.

    I have learned so much from these boards about how to treat women that are struggling with TTC. I have yet to have a person IRL have this problem, but I feel as though I could be there for a friend because of what you ladies have taught me. There is no doubt in my mind that I would have done a few of these things thinking I was "helping," but hearing it from the perspective of someone who has struggled makes me see this journey in a new light.

    I feel fortunate to be part of a community of women who support each other the way that you all do. Educating those of us who haven't had issues or haven't started trying is going to make a difference in someone's life, whether it be ours or a friend's.

     
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    soyjoy222    June 1, 2012   PA

    @MapleBecky:  Thank you for posting this. I do not currently know anyone going through this, but I know that I someday will, or I could be the one experiencing IF. I think this really is something all people should read. As shocked as I was to see that some of these were listed (such as telling someone to relax, or to just enjoy sleeping in), I know that people are that insensitive sometimes and it is a good reminder as to how sensitive of a topic this is. Thank you :)

     
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    secondchances    August 2012   Western MD

    Thank you for posting this. Hugs to all of you currently experiencing infertility. I cannot begin to comprend you pain. I am so sorry. Praying for miracles for all of you.

     
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    barbie86    August 2, 2014   London, UK

    Great list :-)

    I really don't understand some people. I get that often, people just don't know what to say, or that comments are born out of ignorance; but it shocks me that people say things like this. I just think that if you don't know what to say, or you don't have anything nice to say, keep schtum.

    This is different, but my best friend's mum was diagnosed with cancer recently (thankfully, it hasn't spread and she should make a full recovery). I really didn't know what to say, as I didn't want to triviliase it. So I simply said: 'I am so sorry. I really don't know what to say, and I don't have anything constructive to say, but please remember that I'm always here for you, and will always listen'. There's no need to 'lighten the mood' in situations like this, or start telling people it 'could be worse' (wtf does that mean anyway? By whose definition? I once got 'told off' because I was distraught that my dog was dying, because apparently, I was 'lucky' and 'it could be worse': who even says that?!)

    Anyway, great post.

     
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    MapleBecky    July 9, 2011   Canada

    I think that people classify IF like mental illness.  More of a "luxury" disease.   It may not kill you like cancer could, and if you just suck it up and relax, it will get better. 

     

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