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I know it's not on your list, but I highly recommend going to the Cinque Terre in Italy. It's so beautiful and romantic!
In response to your question though, I think it takes about 2 hours by (fast) train to go from Rome to Florence and 4 hours from Rome to Venice. You can book trains and look up prices/times on the trenitalia site.
i was in europe last summer and got a flight from paris to florence for $15. seriously. i think i booked it in february for a june trip. airfare within europe is cheap!
@NotFridaythe13th: That does look beautiful! It's like an escape from the city.
@kitzy: where did you find that deal? that is way too good to be true!! Would love it if I can find a deal like that.
I wouldn't advise doing Florence, Venice, Rome, Berlin and Munich in 14 days with travel time from LA. Think of the jet lag too. I think you should pick one country and save the other for another time. I am sure you would have plenty to see in Venice, Rome and Florence in 10-14 days.
@EleanorRigby: That's what I'm leaning on. I said Germany can be a trip for 2012. Do you have any advice as to where to start first in Italy? Jet lag isn't really an issue. I've traveled 16 hour flights plenty of times.
If you are really set on both countries, I would pick two cities in one country and one major city in the other country and plan your trip around that. Both will have lots to do in the vicinity. I would also plan on flying between the cities to save time. I did 3 cities in 2 weeks--flew to London, picked up a connection to Barcelona. A couple days in Barcelona, then flew to Paris. A couple days there then the Eurostar to London where we spent the most time before flying home.
I went to Rome and the Amalfi Coast on another trip. I think it was a 3 hour drive between them. We flew into Rome and immediately drove to Sorrento. We spent a couple days touring the Amalfi coast--Capri, Positano, Ravello, Pompeii, etc. While staying on Capri would be fabulous, you can go for a day and sightsee if you are staying on the mainland. However, it's too far for a day trip from Rome.
I try to console myself by saying that Europe has been there for hundreds of years and there will still be things to see when I'm able to get back:)
If you are on a fairly tight budget I would recommend skipping Italy. We just got back from our European honeymoon and stayed on budget until we got to Italy. If you can't skip Italy :) then look into apartment brokers. We did that in Rome and it saved us quite abit.
I studied abroad in venice and took the train to Rome and Florence for the weekend. I know there was something special with the trains that you had to get a certain ticket (maybe a reserve ticket or something) that guaranteed you a seat. Other friends went to Rome by train and literally slept in the aisles since it was overbooked. May want to look into that. Also, my sisters went to Pisa easily for the day from Florence.
We flew from Venice to Naples and took the bus to Sorrento for the weekend which was my favorite by far!! We spent the day in Capri and then just lounged by the pool/ocean in Sorrento. Best food ever!
Okay, a little disclosure here, I LOVE Italy. I've been at least a dozen times, my sister lives there, and I get excited anytime anyone is going.
Buuuut, if you want to stay in one place for a week or so, you should totally get an apartment. My fiance studied in Rome last year over the summer and got an apartment with kitchenette/washer/AC for 1500euros/6weeks. AND you could see the coloseum from his window! You can save A LOT of money that way rather than staying in hotels the entire time. I stayed in Rome with him for 2 weeks and we took small trips to Venice/Croatia/Florence/Nice.
look into possible getting a 3 country Eurail pass... I would start in Rome, min. of 4 days - 1-2 days in Venice and 1-2 days in Florence - overnight it to Munich 1-2 days munich, Day trip to Neuschwanstein and then MAYBE up to Berlin. Berlin is SO FAR however from Munich AND italy... lol
Ryanair can have really awesome deals too. I've flown Rome-London-Salzburg for $35 usd. A rail pass is so much easier though.... It also can help if you have flexibility, say if you decide you've seen enough of venice (seriously, venice was a lifelong dream and 8 hrs was PLENTY for me!) you can jump on the train to Munich or stop in Vienna or Salzburg for a day on the way up. Seriously, If you do Italy and Germany, I can't emphasize enough how much of a waste it would be to skip Austria.
I highly recommend getting a travel book if you don't have one already. My SO and I used the Europe and Britain books from the "Let's Go" series during our year abroad and they were vital for organizing our vacation time and staying on budget. Without them we would have been a lot more stressed throughout the planning of a much less enjoyable trip. The Europe book suggests itineraries for short and long stays in each city, and gives info on famous and lesser-known attractions. It also discusses transportation and how long it should take to get from one place to another. Five cities in two weeks sounds like a lot, but it's possible that some of them have only 1 or 2 days worth of sightseeing you'd be interested in. I suggest you identify the "must see" spots in each city first and then evaluate whether or not you'll have to cut some cities out.
Thank you all for your help!!!
I found this article on an itinerary for just Italy. http://www.italylogue.com/planning-a-trip/italy-itinerary-the-perfect-two-weeks.html
What do you guys think? I think it sounds really good, but would like your opinions. Especially for those that have gone to Italy.
it says to fly into Venice and fly out from Rome and lists what to do in each city.
The only thing I think it is missing is visiting the countryside/vineyards.
If you have to choose, I would say Italy is more more suited for a honeymoon - very romantic. Germany is fun, but perhaps for a later vacation?
One country only!! Definitely Italy. I went to Italy in college for two weeks with an Art History class... you will need all the time to see it all. My best friend went to Italy for her honeymoon and loved it. I know she would definitley recommened going to the northern coast (heard its much better than Almafini Coast)... do this right away and relax for a couple of days.You will be on the go from your wedding and want some relaxing time. Then I would suggest going to Florence (Tuscany)... best food ever... then out to Rome to get the history and art... Florence is great for art too. If you can make it up to Venice it is also beautiful but you don't want to rush your trip. Depending on how long you have. The trip from Rome to Venice is pretty long by car.
Recommened Eyewitness travel guides... in color, have street maps and great hints and facts.
If you decide Italy, enjoy it all... you can't rush Italy, no part of it. Find restaurants off the beaten path, they are the best. You will lose yourself there in all the culture, history, art, food, wine, everything!
Have a fabulous time on your honeymoon!
Not dissing Germany but that is definitely a separate trip... make it an anniversary.
Both places are fantastic but I'd be inclined to take ITaly because it's quite romantic. My advice would be to pick a few places and take it slow. Venice, Rome, and Florence are worth seeing. I think Rail is the best way to get around and easier if you're on a honeymoon.
Go for Italy! It's more romantic.
I don't want to seem like a "thread stealer" lol, but does anyone know good beachy areas in Italy?
I agree- Italy is great for honeymoons. There is so much to see- doing 2 countries sounds exciting, but sticking to 1 country will make you able to actually enjoy the culture and your time there.
@SoontobeD - We are doing the Italian Riviera and the French Riviera. I know beaches around Santa Margherita would be fun - very classic and chic looking small rocky pebbled beaches. I can't wait!
You could do both if you stick to Northern Italy (Venice, Verona, Milan) and Southern Germany (Munich, Stuttgart, Konstanz).
@kankanwed: We did the Italian Riviera and stayed in Santa Margherita. LOVED IT! We had rain most of the time and it was still great! lol.
I agree with AprilJo2011. If you want to do Germany & Italy comfortably in 2 weeks, you'd be best off sticking to southern Germany & northern Italy. That would be very doable by train.
I HIGHLY suggest Cinque Terre as well. Boyfriend and I backpacked Europe last summer and CT was a place we hadn't originally planned on going, but one of our friends went with her husband and loved it, so we decided to check it out. We LOVED IT! It's a quaint little town and extremely adorable. We also went to Rome, Venice, Florence ans Pisa as well so if you have any questions I'd be more than happy to answer them. :)
I will say though, out of all those places we visited I would skip Florence. It wasn't my favorite place. I just found it to be way too crowded, not too much going on (as far as things to see), and it was very dirty (trash EVERYWHERE). I dunno...I would skip it and go to someplace more romantic (like the outskirts of Florence in Tuscany) or spend more time in Rome or Venice (you are going to LOVE Venice).
We also went through France, London, and Greece in case you were wondering about those places. :)
I agree with georgia bee, compromise. One city each! Lol
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So for our honeymoon, I want to go to Italy and my fiance wants to go to Germany. Can you guys please help with an itinerary? Preferably would like to do both, but if that takes too much time and money then we can just stick with either Italy or Germany.
I've recently found airbnb.com and would probably be staying at rented apartments to cut the cost since we would only be there to sleep! The rest of the time is spent for exploring. And from what I've seen on there... looks better than a hotel.
What are your guys recommendations as far as transportation and jumping from different cities? And what cities are best to see? I've had my heart set on going to Rome, Venice, and Florence for forever since I studied that in my art classes in college, but my FI is deadset on wanting to go to Berlin and Munich since he is obsessed with WWII! I don't know how romantic WWII can get... lol He also wants to see the castles in Munich and the castle that Disney is basesd off of! Now I have found that I would like to spend a day in Capri. How long does it take to get to other cities... ex. rome to florence? about 3 hours on train? What is cheaper in cost? a rental car or train?
How many days do you guys suggest we do? I would like to do 10 days, but no more than 14. And what is the travel time from California. I've seen that it takes 14 hours to land in Rome, but with the time difference, how many days do we lose out on.Our wedding is may 29th, and probably leaving for the honeymoon may 30th. Would we end up landing in Europe June 1st?
Any info and advice would be greatly appreciated!