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I had to take two online courses because I also worked part-time while going to school full-time, and my work schedule and school schedule didn't always mesh. I absolutely despised the online classes and will never take one again unless I absolutely have to as I work on my Master's Degree. The professors' expectations were unclear and the lectures were long and drawn-out; then the tests were so easy that I could have just skipped the lecture and Googled all the information while taking the test. Sure, I got an A in each course, but I feel like I didn't learn a thing.
I agree with brideatbeach that I didn't learn anything at all in my class. It was an online English class during my undergraduate degree.
Yup, I took a Sociology course online. I didn't learn a thing, and received a 95% grade. There were no class discussions though... It was a "here's the reading, then here's the assignment" twenty times type class.
@brideatbeach: Agreed. I hated my onlines, and will avoid them at all costs. For the same reasons you mentioned.
My classes were History and Sociology. I couldn't rattle off a thing I learned, to be totally honest; it upset me because I value my education just as much as the degree!!
I'm taking a course in Intro to Literacy Research and Implementation in K-8 classrooms. You would think that, being that we are all in-service teachers, the instructor would encourage us to share. Or maybe she would want me to answer people who ask me questions! I'm just frustrated with it.
@Ms. Library: Yeah, that is very frustrating. Have you e-mailed her about it?
Online courses are awesome and terrible it depends on the class content AND the you. I took communications online. Easy as pie. Read the book, answer nultiple choice questions. No problems there, I also don't procrasinate like crazy.
Since that went so well I then took managerial accounting online. OH HOLY HELL! That's all math! You know how hard it is to LEARN math online? I'll give you a hint FREAKIN HARD! I had to make appointment after appointment to speak to the professor in his office becasue I couldn't figure out what the book was trying to teach me.
As for you, the discussion boards: it can be seen as "working together" you got help from others to help you and your assignment. Therefore perhaps all 100% of the work isn't ALL your ideas and yours alone. Perhaps that's what the teacher thinks. Fair or not I'm not sure. But it is what it is.
@brideatbeach: I had to email her earlier today because she said that she never got two out of the four journals I wrote, and so she gave me a grade of 40/100. UNACCEPTABLE! They were turned into the drop box a week and three days early. I don't know why she can't see them; I can see them and open them in my drop box! I emailed her and sent the journals again and hope that she somehow gets this whole thing together.
@Ms. Library: That is really weird. I would assume that the MORE you post in discussion, the better grade you'd get. Mainly because it stimulates more conversation about the topic and you need that in a mediated setting such as an on-line "classroom."
I took an on-line class my last semester of college mainily to try it out. I was a little afraid of taking them because it's so different and because I wasn't sure if I could do the whole "work at your own pace" thing. It worked out fine! As long as you have half a brain and check to see when your assignments are due, anyone can do it IMO.
I would contact your prof. and ask him what the deal is. Or see if anyone else had the same prob...
Wow, that's really weird. Sounds more like a case of instructor incompetence than anything else. I've taken online classes (I'm also in the education field), but I have to say that it's really just like in person classes-- if the teacher doesn't make the expectations clear or seem able to process and give useful feedback on your work, they'll do the same thing in any class format. But yeah, I'm completely baffled by this "too much posting" thing. No such thing, I always thought.
@vmec: The discussion boards are separate assignments from the others. We're supposed to participate, and the other writing assignments happen before our discussion parts.
I did for my undergrad and it was a bad class. I did not learn anything. I dont think online classes are a very good idea...and I am in the IT field. Sure, they are convenient but that is about it.
For my graduate degree we did a lot of discussion board stuff while we were not in class. I really enjoy that...but I need the classroom time too!
I've taken quite a few, about 3 out of 4 times have been a decent experience. I actually learn more with online classes...I liked setting my own schedule. However, for sciences and math (I did a hybrid chemistry class...half was online, half was in a classroom) those...are horrible. Maybe its just me, I'm not a quick learner when it comes to chemistry.
@Ms. Library: but in response to your question, I also was one of those who would get involved in the discussion assignments more than we had to and I never got graded down for those...that's sounds so weird. Maybe the prof. was lazy and mad that he had to go back through to read more of them!
This thread is making me a bit nervous. I'm starting master's classes this fall and I can either take on campus electives that are kind of related to my interests, or online electives that are much more strongly related to my areas of interest. I was leaning towards the online electives (or maybe one of each just to try both out), but now I'm a bit nervous! I'm in my 4th year of professional school (so I have experience with graduate level work) and they are not math or science classes, so maybe online would be ok... Decisions decisions.
@EvaBostonTerrier: I have my Master's, and it's not that the class is hard, it's that the course leader seems to have weird expectations. Who gets penalized for being too involved? I just want to get the most out of it!
@Ms. Library: In all my years of schooling, I've never heard of such a strange reason for decreasing someones score. So weird!
I earned my Bachelors of Science online (mostly). I really loved online classes for the most part. I took them through Drexel and UMUC. UMUC was crap, but Drexel was pretty wonderful. I also recently took a medical terminology course through the local college in our area- loved it. I tend to learn better on my own- I don't do well in classrooms. I'm easily distracted and CANT STAND when people stop a professor to ask questions.
Hopefully after I finish a nursing program I'll go back to Drexel for a masters.
@EvaBostonTerrier: Ok, it wasn't shootmenow-horrendous, but definitely clarify ANY unclear points the prof made or make sure that the expectations are explicitly stated. I did like the flexibility of studying when I wanted, but the required posts were awkward since no one wanted to participate.
The system of communicating was great with some profs and HORRIBLE with others. It's really hit or miss. I would say about 2 classes I enjoyed, and 3 I hated. The 2 I liked were with the same prof who had his crap together and know how to facilitate an online course.
Ugh, I took intro to statistics online. It was terrible. Same expectations of discussion (about stats?!?!) and to teach yourself math was tough. I ended up with 37% in the course that was bumped up to a B due to the bell curve, so obviously everybody had the same issues.
The online classes I have taken during my last semester as an undergraduate have been extremely involved. In my opinion, I loved the stimulation from the online classes at the University at Buffalo. It's not an easy "A". Lots of course work and discussions in class. Some of the classes that I took online were Health Administration, American history, Classical theory of Sociology (which was in class but class discussions were all online)...etc. Received all A's but I had to put in my share of the hard work and dedication! It was no cake walk or easy "google" tests. Although, I have taken a few of those "easy a" online classes at a community college just for 2 electives... I plan on taking online classes for my Masters in Business Administration at Capella University. So I guess it depends on individual taste!
I assumed because I'm online practiclaly all day anyway that online classes would be perfect for me. NOT! I really never enjoyed any of them. I totally prefer the in-classroom exprience.
I'm currently taking 18 hours online, and even though I hate it (because frankly, I'm over school, and I'm just doing this for my husband at this point) it really isn't any worse than regular classes. I think you just got the short straw, and have a bad teacher, but can you still withdraw at this point? With summer classes, that deadline comes and goes pretty darn quickly.
I cannot withdraw and get any money back, and the topic is really important to me. However, I emailed the professor today because she said she never got two of my online journal entries. I always do my work way ahead of time, so I emailed her to ask which ones. I then sent another email with my work attached just in case it would be helpful to have it that way. She shot an email back saying that she "made it very clear if I had read emails" that she doesn't accept work over email (okay, I understand) and that if she told me which ones were missing, it wouldn't be fair to the other learners who didn't seem to need this kind of help. Um, excuse me? YOUR computer screwed up, and you're telling me that it's not fair to others that I am asking which ones you can't see?! SERIOUSLY?!
@Ms. Library: Ugh. I'd probably try her one more time (and always by email so you can forward it on later) and then go to a Dept. head. Seriously, it is not your problem that you've submitted 4 things all the same way and only 2 show up. If you truly submitted them all in the same way, then the issue is with her side or at least she should be helpful in her trying to gain access to them.
Sorry you're dealing with this. When my town flooded, I called my profs and they were very kind over the phone (it's easy to be more personable when you're in voice contact) but with this prof, I think written documentation is best.
I signed up for an online art class once. It lasted a day. The layout/format of the site was horrible. I didn't understand how things were to be done and be sent in. It was very confusing. I also didn't like the fact there was no teacher/student interaction. I am better at face-to-face learning along with taking notes.
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I'm curious to see what others' experiences have been like, but I'm on the fence about the online class I am taking right now. The first week was this past week, and I just got my grades for my assignments. I know this is being nit-picky, but my discussion grade was dropped from a 100 to a 95 because I posted too many time on the discussion boards. I thought discussion in a class was a good thing? What about growing professionally by sharing your experiences?
Has this happened to anyone else?