Post # 1
Tomorrow I have my first infertility appointment (but with the midwife who does my usual gyn care, not an RE, for insurance reasons) after 18 months of trying (ugh). Anywho, I got a call from the nurse at the office today who wanted to ask some questions prior to my appointment. She asked if I was interested in learning more about Creighton model and I told her no – we had been charting for the last year and we wanted to go ahead with testing, etc.
I’m a little frustrated because when I went for my yearly, the midwife asked if I wanted information about Creighton model and I said ok sure and was given a packet of info. This was in January. Since then I’ve been called over and over again by a nurse at the office about signing up for training on the Creighton model (which would cost $800 for the training classes?!?). I have explained that I chart using the TCOYF book and that I’m not interested in Creighton but she kept calling to just let me know there was an opening in the classes or they were running a special, etc. etc. It was obnoxious and eventually I stopped answer the nurse’s phone calls and just let it go to voicemail.
So today, when my midwife’s nurse (NOT the nurse begging me to do Creighton model) called and mentioned Creighton model I was pretty frustrated. I told her I had gotten the info on Creighton already and would prefer to go over other options and the nurse said ok, Jennifer (the midwife) will have information on NaProtechnology for you at the appointment. So I get home today and turn to trusty Google to find that Creighton model and NaProtechnology are pretty much the same thing?
Am I wrong on this? I’m just confused now. Does anyone have real life experience with these options? What’s the difference between Creighton and charting according to TCOYF? And does anyone know what NaProtechnology actually IS? I can’t really figure out how it differs from regular charting.
Also, I’m afraid I’m going to find that this office is not going to go down the route of traditional infertility treatment because the office is closely affiliated with the Catholic hospital in town and from what I can see, Creighton and NaProtechnology are big in the Catholic community. My husband and I are not Catholics (we are, in fact, atheists, and have nothing against getting any fertility treatment including IVF, etc.). Am I freaking out about nothing here?
I guess I’m just feeling disappointed already because I’ve waited a couple months to get in for an appointment and now I just feel like I’m going to get a hard sale on a method that I do not want to go with and leave with no more information than what I walked in with. Sigh.
Post # 3
I have looked into NaproTech a little (we are having problems but don’t fall into the “official” category of infertile until we’ve been trying for a year. Even though I don’t ovulate. Joy).
We ARE Catholic though and IVF wouldn’t be a good fit for us.
Naprotechnology is basically a somewhat “granola” approach to infertility that focuses on treating the casue of the problem rather than the symptom (the symptom being that you can’t get or stay pregnant). There’s something going wrong in your body or your husband’s body that is underlying that. So rather than jump to the high-tech, expensive fix like IVF they really go through trying to find out what is going on.
If you consult their stats, they do have higher success rates than “standard” infertility treatments but it’s not a silver bullet. It doesn’t work for everyone.
Also, if you DID want other treatment options you would probably have to switch to a different provider because Catholic hospitals don’t do straight up IVF. They can do IUI and many other procedures similar to IVF but they won’t make embryos in the lab.
So annoying that they keep trying to push Creighton on you – honestly I do nooooot want to learn Crieghton either so this might be an obstacle for me, too if Napro=Creighton. I am not very clear on whether they are identical though or if in certain circumstances it’s not necessary.
Post # 4
Creighton is mucus charting it does not include temperature charting. I am not sure what TCOYF has you chart. The NaPro is how a medical provider can analyze your cycle and see what types of things are wrong and what things ca be done to correct any issues you may have.
Maybe you should look around for another IF center.
Post # 5
@Magdalena: Hi! Thanks for explaining things to me a little better from the Catholic perspective and also I’m sorry that you’re still in that waiting phase even though you know you have issues. It’s a cruddy feeling, isn’t it? I am going to try to go into tomorrow’s appointment with an open mind and see what the midwife says. Maybe I’m just letting my emotions about the appointment/reality of infertility get the better of me. 🙂
I did want to mention that I don’t expect we will jump directly to IVF (I can’t imagine anyone would want to…) just that we are ok with whatever needs to happen eventually, if it comes to that. Also, I didn’t know that Catholic hospitals won’t do IVF at all. Interesting. Oh and I wanted to mention that we DO want to figure out any underlying causes in our fertility problems. It just seems like timing sex for our fertile window is not working, whether we call it TCOYF charting, Creighton, NaProtechnology or whatever. I guess I just want to feel like we’re making forward motion. 🙂
Anyway, thanks again for the response and good luck with your baby journey too!
Post # 6
Their system seems pretty legit and seems to find IF issues and offers natural remedies and then medical intervention.
Tomorrow definitely address your issue with IVF and see if they will be able to continue with you through the entire process. I don’t know if you would want to switch up after working with them if IVF is needed and they are not willing to provide the service.
Post # 7
@rbabyrolle: Thanks for the additional information. I definitely appreciate it! I think we are far from needing IVF (well, I hope so, I guess I don’t really know!). I didn’t mean that we necessarily wanted to do IVF – just that we were open to it. But I definitely need to talk to my midwife tomorrow and do some serious thinking. It’s too bad because I really like the midwife herself, but maybe she’s not going to be the right person to take us on this journey.