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    alphagam84    June 9, 2012  

    My fiance and I became engaged within a month of his brother and fiance. My fiance and I set our wedding date immediately as I wanted a June wedding. We booked our honeymoon within a few weeks as well. My parents are gifting us a one week stay using their timeshare points so we could choose anywhere we wanted to go. The timeshare place only does Saturday-Saturday reservations so we had to book two weeks after our actual wedding as we couldn't go right after our wedding or we'd lose a day (not go until Sunday). Wedding is on 6/9 and honeymoon starts on 6/23.

    Fiance's brother and his fiance didn't seem to worried about setting dates, planning, etc. and we had only heard the wedding would be sometime in April. Last week my fiance gets an email from his brothers best man about planning the bachelor party and that it would be in May-obviously the wedding is not in April if the bachelor party is in May. I told my fiance he had to text his brother asap to find out when the wedding actually is. He reponds it is on 6/30-the last day of our honeymoon. The brother and his fiance just randomly switched their sometime in April wedding to June and didn't bother to tell anyone.

    I'm appalled they set the date without a courtney notice to us of "hey, we're thinking of doing our wedding in June, I know you're getting married then too, will you be back from your honeymoon?". I don't think that's asking too much. I certainly would have checked if it was the other way around. When we set our date we let everyone know what we were thinking to make sure there weren't any conflicts with the date.

    Our honeymoon is a once in a lifetime trip that is out of the country. We were going to fly in late that Saturday at 11:30 PM. We've checked and found one flight which would get us into town at 5 PM so we'd have a chance of making it to the reception. The brothers entire wedding is weird and we know no details, but the ceremony is on Friday so we'd still miss the actual wedding itself. The flight at 5 PM is almost double the cost of the other flights-it's $2800 and the other one is $1500. We can't afford that additional cost. I told my fiance if his family wants us there for the reception, they can pay the additional cost.

    Somehow this entire issue has fallen on us to deal with when we didn't do anything wrong. The brother is the one who set the date and didn't bother telling anyone! He then texts my fiance yesterday asking us to cut our honeymoon short by a day and fly back that Friday. I think it's ridiculous to ask us that. This is our honeymoon in a foreign country. Also, our trip is a gift from my parents-if we cut it short there's no refund on the points used for our trip so it's kind of like we're throwing away money. I've checked and we're locked in and cannot change our honeymoon dates. But now either we cut our trip short to come back for the reception part of the wedding or we look like jerks and don't cut our trip short. What are your thoughts/opions?

     
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    Ms. Martian    September 9, 2012   Ontario

    I wouldn't change my plans. If they really wanted you there then they should have asked you beforehand when you would be gone for your honeymoon in order to coordinate their wedding date. 

     
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    hisgoosiegirl    June 18, 2011  

    @alphagam84: you know what? I think they are in the wrong. Why would you change your wedding date *ESPECIALLY* when you know that another sibling is getting married in that same time frame, and not tell your family! That seems so bizarre - especially if your parents are gifting you the points - did they know what days you were going? Because it just seems like a major lack of communication.

    I think you are right to tell them if they want you there, they pay the extra cost for the flight change fees and extra cost for the flight time. That is very rude on their part. And to TEXT you to tell YOU two to change YOUR honeymoon because they changed their date and didn't bother to check with anyone? Wow.

     
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    BrightGreen    August 18, 2012   Canada

    They are under no obligation to plan their wedding around your honeymoon schedule. Just as you're under no obligation to change what is an essentially unchangeable trip. If they insist on that wedding date then they just need to accept that you guys won't be there, as much as it sucks.

     
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    abbie017    March 16, 2013  

    Send your regrets.  Explain that you booked your honeymoon off of the dates that they had given you previously (April) and that the entire trip is nonrefundable, or will cost you thousands more to change.  Send a nice wedding present, and leave it at that.  They messed up, and you shouldn't get screwed out of your honeymoon for it.

     
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    FutureMsVW    August 4, 2012  

    Aw, sorry you are being put in this situation! Isn't it strange they planned their wedding right after yours anyway? brothers getting married in the same month seems funny!

    I'd just stick withy our plans, you might regret it if you dont!

     
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    atalante    May 19, 2012  

    @Ms. Martian:

    @BrightGreen:

    ^^ What they said!

     

    That sucks, I think they were really inconsiderate. And TBH, I'm not sure what I would do in your shoes. BUT if you decide to not attend, make sure you're standing united on it... it will make the fallout (if any) much easier to deal with.

     
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    hisgoosiegirl    June 18, 2011  

    Is your FI's brother competitive with your FI or do they not have a great relationship? The whole thing seems very odd and adds a lot of unnecessary stress for the family.  And definitely be united on your choice (personally I wouldn't change my plans), like a PP said, it will make the fallout easier to handle.

     
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    Au Jardin    May 26, 2012   France

    @BrightGreen: This. I'd stand your ground. Weddings don't mean nearly as much as it does to the bride and groom. They shouldn't have to change their plans if that is their choice....but you shouldn't skip out on your own wedding experience either. 

     
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    ffemt    October 12, 2013  

     They should of talke with you first... If they really cared they would of.

    My FI cousin is getting Married around the time frame as us... We found this out the other day when talking. Because we already booked the venue, they are now trying to plan with what we already have sched...

    Simply respond you regret that you can't make it.

     
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    UpstateCait    October 7, 2011   Upstate, NY

    I normally roll my eyes at the “such and such is getting married so close to me” posts but I think your FBIL & his fiancée are totally in the wrong here. They had plans to marry in April and then just up and changed their minds without so much as discussing it with anyone. I know it’s ultimately the couples decision but I think it’s only appropriate to run the date past your immediate family to assure there are no complications. Your HM was booked (and paid for) long before they decided to change their date. If FBIL & his lady cared enough about you guys, they wouldn’t have booked their wedding for when they knew you wouldn’t be here. The fact that they’d even have the audacity to suggest that you cut your HM short to attend their ill planned nuptials is beyond me. If I were you, I wouldn’t change a thing. I wouldn’t cut your trip short and I wouldn’t shell out more money just to get home in time. If they want you there bad enough, they can pay for it. There are 49 other weekends (besides your wedding and the time you’ll be away for your HM) to choose from. Your HM is (hopefully) a once in a lifetime thing. I bet they’d be pissed if they were asked to cut theirs short.

    FWIW, I also think it’s crappy for siblings to plan their weddings within weeks of each other if it can be avoided. Beyond the whole “stolen thunder” thing, it makes it extra difficult on the parents if they’re contributing (and even if they’re not) and on the mutual guests who will have to shell out for 2 weddings in 1 month. 

     
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    macshap    October 6, 2012   GA/TN

    Okay, I'd think about it a different way. In 10 years, which might you regret - having a 7 day honeymoon and missing FI's brother's wedding or having a shorter 5 day honeymoon and celebrating FI's brother's wedding?

    It's an unfortunate situation, but his wedding won't happen again. While your honeymoon won't happen again either, you have every day for the rest of your life to spend with your FI and many more romantic trips you can take. 

     

     
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    Rush1986      

    WTH...you think he would have discussed this with his brother?

    They will need to have a discussion about this. It seems like a petty attack of some kind. 

    I wouldn't change my plans though.  Wouldn't it cost you additonal money to try and make it back?

     
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    auggiefrog    August 25, 2012   Wauwatosa, WI

    @abbie017: yes!  

    It is very wierd that they didn't check with you before confirming the date!  

     
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    MrsMeNow    September 18, 2010   Wisconsin

    I honestly think this one should be up to your FI. Yes it was not a cool thing to do on their part, ut if he wants to cut the trip short by one day, then I would support him and do it.

     
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    hisgoosiegirl    June 18, 2011  

    @macshap: and what about the several thousand dollar extra cost? who should be responsible for that?  not being snarky at all, just curious because it's not like the OP and her FI can just hop on home to the wedding without it being any trouble.

     

     

     
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    hisgoosiegirl    June 18, 2011  

    @Rush1986: It seems like a petty attack of some kind.


    that is exactly my thought. I feel like there's more to this relationship.....it seems like the FBIL is being childish in moving their wedding to be so close to his brother's.

     
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    roxy821    August 21, 2010  

    Tell that your honeymoon is booked and that the cost to change the flight it outrageous and after having your own wedding, you unfortuntely can't afford to change the flight. This is 100% your fault, it's not like you knew the date well in advance and just decided to go on a random vacation during that time.

     
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    yellowshoe    December 2011   Laguna Beach, CA

    I have to say...is I'm in a similar situation, although not as bad. It's a family vacation we've planned for over a year (the first family vacation for my DH and my family).and my SIL was well aware of it before picking her wedding date.

    In the end my sister and I made a compromise that would allow my DH to make the wedding, all be it rushed, but he'd be there. My DH is not ok with this. And well we are not in a good place in our marriage at this point.

    My advice is: as long as you and your hubby are on the same page and are happy with your decision as a couple, then it is the right one.

     
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    Bostongrl25    December 2017  

    There is no way in hell I would change your honeymoon to accomodate them. Obviously the wedding is up to the couple, but he didn't consider his family members at all when making this decision. Your honeymoon was booked and paid for before they decided to secretly change things around. And the fact that the brother didn't even tell your FI says a lot. I  mean, he found out from the best man? That seems weird to me.

    Edit: Also, just want to add that if there was a legitimate reason for changing their date, then I might feel differently. For example, health reasons or if a family member was ill. But it sounds like they changed it "just because", which is just plain rude and thoughtless to others involved.

     

     
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    AnnieAAA    October 25, 2009   Dallas, TX

    This does seem really really weird...does your FI talk to his brother?

    Also, you stated the ceremony is the day before? Or that you don't know the plans of the wedding?

    Your FI should stop texting and just call his bro to clear up this mess. They need to talk openly and honestly about the situation & then I would leave the final decision up to your FI.

     
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    macshap    October 6, 2012   GA/TN

    @hisgoosegirl:

    I think there are a lot of emotions flying around the OP and people involved. I think the first thing that needs to be done is decide what's going to be more important down the road. If it's that they see FI's brother get married, then they need to calmly discuss with each other and FI's family how to afford getting them back without missing too much of their honeymoon. If they can't all find a way to pay for it, then they can say their sorry and that they tried and they would love to skype in to the ceremony and/or reception if possible. 

    If they would prefer to not see FI's brother be married and stay on their honeymoon (and yes, this should be up to the FI mostly), then maybe they can still offer to try to video in to the wedding while regretting the invitation to come.

     
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    hisgoosiegirl    June 18, 2011  

    @macshap: I'd have a lot of emotions too, if I found out my brother secretly changed his wedding date to be during my honeymoon and then text me to tell my to change my paid for and finalized plans. Down the road, I think the FBIL will be the ones regretting their decision more - to make their wedding inconvenient to the family.

    I agree that the two brothers need to call each other and talk. But the decision should be up to both the OP and her FI. Not just the FI. This is a decison that affects both of them as husband and wife.

     
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    alphagam84    June 9, 2012  

    @AnnieAAA: Yes, the actual wedding ceremony is the day before on a Friday. Just the reception is on Saturday. So no matter what, we'd miss the actual ceremony which I think is the most important-at this point I feel like it's just a party we'd be missing. I don't know all the details on the ceremony, but their mom has been a pain through planning and we livid we weren't getting married in a church (our wedding is outdoors) so I think she played a big role in the ceremony being on Friday. Apparently it's a small ceremony in a church with just a few people like the immediate family.

     
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    macshap    October 6, 2012   GA/TN

    @hisgoosegirl

    I agree that the OP's post is understandable, I'd be pretty emotional, too. I also think they don't need to make a final decision today while OP's so upset, that it will take at least several days or a few weeks to find the best solution. And yes, the OP's opinion does matter, and there needs to be a series of conversations here between FI & FBIL and FI & OP and anyone else who can help with a solution. OP's opinion does matter, and hopefully they will keep in mind the vows they are about to take with one another as they come to a decision.

     
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    hisgoosiegirl    June 18, 2011  

    @alphagam84: are there no flights at all to make the ceremony on Friday? Honestly, I feel the ceremony is more important too, so if there's no chance at making that, I'd probably not bother spending the time/money to get there for the reception.

     
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    hisgoosiegirl    June 18, 2011  

    @macshap: no, a decision today is not a good idea. the brothers need to talk and look over their options, but ultimately, I think they have a fairly good idea of how things are going to go now.

     
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    macshap    October 6, 2012   GA/TN

    and OP, looking back I think your pretty calm right now compared to what my posts might suggest. I just think this is going to take another handful of conversations on the matter. good luck to you!

     
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    alphagam84    June 9, 2012  

    @UpstateCait: I do think it's weird they chose a date so close to ours. It puts a lot of stress on his family. They are egyptian and some family is planning on flying over to our wedding so I don't think you could expect people to fly to the US for ours, fly back, and then fly over again 3 weeks later. But everyone keeps saying it's not a traditional wedding (it's the brother's fiance's second time getting married) and I have no clue/details on the ceremony being on Friday thing. I don't even think they're going to invite all the out of town relatives like the FMIL is doing for ours. The whole situation is very weird. The brothers have an OK relationship, they never fight or anything, but they just don't really talk a lot. We all live in the same area.

     
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    saraja87    March 26, 2011   Los Angeles

    I wouldn't change the honeymoon plans. Who knows, if the invitations haven't gone out yet, they might decide to change their mind about the date again. It all sounds petty and if not intentional, really thoughtless.

     
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    MerryWidow    July 21, 2012   Saratoga, NY

    I wouldn't change your plans, unless your FI is adamant about it.  Honestly, 7.5 years after my first wedding (and while I'm planning my current one) I do still wish we had taken a longer honeymoon because 5 days felt rushed.  I don't think it's necessarily wrong that they switched their date (it could be financial, I could never imagine being able to afford an entire wedding this year), but if they really wanted you there they should have made sure you'd be back.  While it's odd to take a honeymoon that much later than your actual wedding, it's also odd to leave the very next day, so there is no way to know when someone will be back.  If your FI and his brother are close, they should sit down together (just the two of them) and talk about it, so that neither one has hurt feelings. 

     
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    pinkshoes    July 2011   MA

    I would not change the honeymoon plans.  Your wedding and honeymoon has been set in stone.  How about moving it up a week or two before you leave for your honeymoon.  I can't believe they would just set a date and expect you to pay thousands and cut your trip short.  Sorry, if they dont have enough consideration for my plans, why should I bend over backwards to accomate them?  Say sorry we cant be there, but we'd love if you could video tape the ceremony so we can still witness it.

     
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    MsCarabiner    May 30, 2012   Provo, UT wedding in Laie, HI

    We have been in something of a loosely similar situation. FI and his only sister are very close in age and best friends. She is on an international mission trip for our church until this spring. We were told she could decide to come home in April or June. I did not like planning the wedding date on her time table, but FI felt very strongly that she be able to attend, so we asked her to come home in April and when she agreed, planned our wedding for the end of May.

    After that was settled FMIL expressed a desire to go and pick her up, which I agree would be very fun. But, as teachers FILS don't have the time off to go in April but could in June once school was out. Then FSIL started feeling like in April she would be coming home early, and asked if we might be willing to move the date to June. But, the planning is well under way and May is much more convenient with our school/work schedules. 

    I was worried that FI would want to move it, but he felt that we'd given her an opportunity to come, being very upfront about the date from the beginning and compromising it so that she could come if she was willing to make it work. We did all that because we care about her coming. 

    While I think that concidering how you'll feel down the road about missing FBIL's wedding it seems clear to me that he can't care that much about you attending, or have much respect for the two of you as he didn't even ask if you might have plans (like a honeymoon for instance) during the rest of the month of your wedding. 

     
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    kathleenkmm    June 2, 2012   WI

    This just happened to us too - we're going on our honeymoon. They knew when the date was (we told them four days after they told us they were engaged) so they chose to book their wedding when we couldn't be there. I'll be looking like a jerk right along with you even though I think they are the ones being jerky.

     
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    Sunshine09    August 25, 2012  

    Nice to see someone else with BIL issues...this is totally something my future one would do. Act without thinking about anyone but himself.

    Tough one, can't say what to do, but I can say my FI had to take his B. out for beers and ask him straight out to be more supportive and be there for us - like he was for him - we're still waiting.

    Maybe you could try to be the bigger person and sit down with him/them and just talk it out to reach an understanding? (and hopefully you have more success then we did)

     
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    bookworm88    August 4, 2012  

    I'd tell them that I was really sorry but they scheduled their wedding during my honeymoon and I would not be attending. This is their fault for not checking-- the boys are brothers! It shouldn't be that hard to check a date if he really wanted you both there.

    I wouldn't worry about it too much-- if they are this unorganized planning the wedding, I doubt you'll be the only one missing. (I also bet they change their date after they wise up!)

     

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