Best air quality website?
more by greenleafmountain
Help me fall in love with my colors again! (vintage pink)
when to send Thank You's to guest RSVPing "No"
more in Etiquette
Is it IMproper to NOT invite the officiant to my rehearsal dinner?
Small wedding, big reception-How to handle Invitations?
more in Boards
Gifts for bridesmaids/flower girls/ring bearer

Feeling evil... is this too low?

posted 1 year ago in Etiquette
  • poll: Can I use facebook to publicly shame this obstinate non-RSVPer?
    Go for it, indulge the evil! : (24 votes)
    22 %
    Now Greenleafmountain, you know you're better than that! : (86 votes)
    78 %
  •  
    1.
    Member
    1,437 posts
    Bumble bee
    greenleafmountain    7.31.2010  

    So the situation is this: We've invited a guy to the wedding, let's call him Pete.  Pete is notoriously bad at RSVPing.  He failed to RSVP to two separate colleagues' weddings this past year, and only gave them his answer when they confronted him in person after ignoring numerous emails, phone calls, etc.  Unfortunately we never see him in person.

    Our RSVP deadline was the 20th.  Since then, Pete has ignored an email from me and an email from FI.  Fi intends to call him tomorrow and Thursday to try to get his answer.  I fully expect him to ignore both calls. (If you can't tell, I REALLY dislike this guy, he was only invited for the sake of keeping the peace in our group of friends.) 

    Our tentative meal choice count is due on the 30th, and our hard and fast fixed numbers are due on the 14th.  We intend to email or call him every other day until we get an answer.  If we haven't heard from him by the 12th (over 3 weeks past the deadline) would it be totally out of line to post something publicly on his facebook wall?  I usually hate facebook drama, but this guy needs some public shaming imho!

    I'm thinking of writing something like "Pete, you have ignored #X emails from us and #Y phone calls.  Your RSVP was due over 3 weeks ago.  We are giving our final numbers to our caterers TOMORROW.  If we do not hear from you by 3pm, we will have to assume you are not coming and tell the caterer we won't need a meal for you.  Please let us know if you intend to come or not."

    I know it's evil, I know it creates unnecessary drama.  Please someone talk me out of it!  I'm just so frustrated because we really can't guess whether this guy will come or not.  I didn't even want to invite him in the first place, and I absolutely don't want to get roped into paying for his meal only to have him not show up...

     
    2.
    Member Icon
    Member
    629 posts
    Busy bee
    Saeliz    July 1, 2009  

    Don't do it!!  lol I'm talking you out of it now.  You will most likely regret.  Let FI handle it and try not to worry about him.  He will be the last person you will ever think of when it comes to your day.  

     
    3.
    Member
    920 posts
    Busy bee
    bride2bejc    June 25, 2011   Live in Jersey City, Wedding was in NYC

    If this guy doesn't bother answering you or your fi's e-mails--then screw that! He shouldn't come to your wedding.  And if you don't care much for him, then better that he's not there.  You mentioned that he is notrious for this--I think he needs to learn his lesson.  Consider him not coming and if he mentions it or shows up tell him that he missed the RSVP date.  Do not go crazy trying to get in touch with him.

     
    4.
    Member
    1,437 posts
    Bumble bee
    greenleafmountain    7.31.2010  

    @Saeliz: haha, I know I would regret it... but it would be so satisfying in the moment!

    @bride2bejc: Wow, pulling out the big guns!  Having him show up and not have a meal or a chair would induce way more public shame than a facebook posting.  But I am worried about drama on the wedding day.

     

    Realistically I probably won't do anything public about this, but it's pretty fun to make out these plots anyway ;)

     
    5.
    Member Icon
    2,051 posts
    Buzzing bee
    babyboo      

    If you really feel the need to write that, I would send him a private facebook message. "Shaming" him on his facebook wall seems a little high school to me :/

     
    6.
    Member
    1,126 posts
    Bumble bee
    mountain.bride    December 12, 2009   Australia

    It seems odd to invite someone to your wedding that you *never* see in person, although I do understand about keeping the peace in a social circle. I would probably not call/email every 2 days, because it sounds like a waste of time. He knows you're waiting. I'd leave it until the last minute, call one more time, say if we don't hear from you by 3pm tomorrow we will assume you're not coming. He clearly doesn't care so I wouldn't waste too much time or effort on him to be honest!

     
    7.
    Member
    818 posts
    Busy bee
    Miss Sparklespaniel    November 13, 2010   VIC, Australia

    Don't do it. You'll come across as a bitter bridezilla and you still might not get what you want which is a yay or nay from him about whether he's coming or not. Facebook is never a good forum for venting - I was once looking through the wedding photos of a friend from highschool and her pictures were beautiful up until one of the comments was from her abusing a guest because he had RSVP'd yes and then not showed up. It wasn't cool. If you have to confront this guy do it in person or over the phone. A public forum isn't a good idea. Even if you do what bride2bejc suggested and leave a message on his phone telling him that he's missed the RSVP date and therefore you're assuming he's not coming.

     
    8.
    Member
    375 posts
    Helper bee
    Circus Peanut    October 9, 2010  

    I agree with Miss Sparklespaniel ! While he is the one being rude, if you retaliate on FB then you will be the one who seems 'mean' to the casual observer. Just say what you want to say via email or voicemail - that if you don't hear back by X date and time, you're putting him down as a 'no' on the RSVP list.

     
    9.
    1,940 posts
    Buzzing bee
    EvaBostonTerrier    July 3, 2010  

    If he doesn't respond after 3 contacts (either by voicemail, text, e-mail, etc), I would say that he isn't coming.  If he decides to come, I would just tell him that he's more than welcome to attend the ceremony, but unfortunately you aren't able to add any additional people to the reception as the final numbers were already due.

     
    10.
    Member
    1,405 posts
    Bumble bee
    missfireslayer    September 24, 2010   Northern Colorado

    I just think that is ALOT of effort to go through for one person. I would just assume he isn't coming.

     
    11.
    Member
    1,437 posts
    Bumble bee
    greenleafmountain    7.31.2010  

    Thanks everyone.  I promise, I'm not actually going to do it, this post was mostly meant as a joke with a little bit of self indulgent fantasy mixed in ;)  Maybe I should have put "vent" in the title.  It just drives me nuts that he can act like a jerk to everyone he knows, and people will just laugh it off and say "oh, that's just Pete for ya!" Well Pete can go suck an egg!

    @mountain.bride: We know each other through a school system, so we do see him quite often during the year, just not over the summer.   You're probably right about not contacting him that much though.  Frankly I'm ready to hand the whole situation over to my FI because they have known each other longer.

     

    So, no, I won't be stooping to that level.  But now and then everyone likes to imagine what they would say to certain people if there were no consequences, right? :)

     
    12.
    Member
    500 posts
    Busy bee
    Ms Sassy    January 4, 2012   Outside of Boston, MA

    Screw him...i wouldn't even waste my facebook time on him!  I wouldn't even waste my phone time on him.  He was given a date..hes an adult and he can read...he knows when he should RSVP.  If he doesn't, then oh well.  I would just go with EvaBoston..."you can come to the ceremony but there is no room at the reception."

    Then under my breath as I walk away would be "theres a McDonald's down the street" but thats just me LOL!!!!

     
    13.
    1,607 posts
    Bumble bee
    dance    July 23, 2011   Alberta, Canada

    I am kinda sorta on your side...as in that is something I would absolutely want to do, but I probably wouldn't.  If you have not heard of him by then, you don't count him as coming.  If he shows up, you get someone to let him know there is not space for him, as he did not respond to you in time to order his meal.  Too bad for him for being so lazy that he cannot check a box or pick up his phone.

     
    14.
    Hostess
    7,114 posts
    Busy
    Beekeeper
    zippylef    October 30, 2010   Norfolk, UK

    I would just consider him not coming and dont plan for him. Dont order him a meal, dont make him a chair, nothing. Then, I would tell my event coordinator to look out for him and if he shows up, inform him that he did not RSVP and so he does not have a meal or any place to sit. I would make it clear to the event staff that there will be no "squeezing someone in" at any of the tables.

    Screw him. I hate people like this. It is unbelievably rude. I agree with bride2bejc, he needs to learn his lesson.

     
    15.
    Member
    1,405 posts
    Bumble bee
    missfireslayer    September 24, 2010   Northern Colorado

    hahaha @ suck an egg lol

     
    16.
    Member
    271 posts
    Helper bee
    ThePinkSuperhero    April 10, 2010   NYC

    Don't do it.  Just assume he isn't coming.

     
    17.
    Member Icon
    Member
    583 posts
    Busy bee
    brady3537    September 4, 2011  

    I would see how things pan out with your FI handling it, then if nothing works assume he's not coming.  

     
    18.
    Hostess
    10,917 posts
    Sugar
    Beekeeper
    bakerella    September 11, 2010   Toronto, ON

    I would leave him a voicemail saying what you wrote. Let him know you're not saving a seat for him and that basically he's not coming. If you FB shame him you'll probably get sh*t from your mutual friends, although I agree, I'd totally want to do it too ;)

     
    19.
    Member
    2,292 posts
    Buzzing bee
    spaganya    September 4, 2010   Arlington, VA/wedding in Williamsburg, VA

    i would do a "kill em with kindness" kinda thing - posting on his FB page "hi, [insert idiots name here] its a shame that you decided not to come to the wedding, I am sure you would have had fun! hopefully we will see you sometime after the wedding."

    basically since he didnt answer his RSVP, you are showing him he no longer has a seat. lol but its nice... ya know?

     
    20.
    1,607 posts
    Bumble bee
    dance    July 23, 2011   Alberta, Canada

    @spaganya:  Hahaha....that is cheeky!  I like it :)

     
    21.
    Member
    541 posts
    Busy bee
    xoxokristin    October 30, 2010   Tokyo, Japan

    If he doesn't RSVP, why don't you send him a message saying "Since you didn't RSVP we assume that you're not coming. See you around!" and don't leave a place or meal for him. You don't even like him in the first place, right? If someone flaked on an RSVP I would assume they aren't coming.. it would pretty rude and weird if someone showed up unannounced!

     
    22.
    Member
    43 posts
    Newbee
    Miss Terry    February 11, 2011   Titusville, Fl

    I would do a post saying RSVPS are due by XXX if you don not RSVP by then I understand you do not wish to attend, , but in general NO NAMES,,,, this is how a few ppl holding out on giving me their address so I could send STD's

     
    23.
    Member Icon
    Member
    44 posts
    Newbee
    christine92    August 28, 2010   NJ

    I wouldn't waste a minute more on this guy.  Sadly, he clearly hasn't given you or FI much thought or consideration either.  Consider him not coming and move on to more important items on your To-Do list.

     
    24.
    Bee Icon
    Bee
    1,480 posts
    Bumble bee
    mssushi    March 2009   Hershey, PA / Kaneohe, HI

    I'm with bride2bejc on this one. Just leave him a message (phone/email) stating that since you have not recieved his reply and has not returned your phone calls, you are assuming that he is not able to attend your wedding & reception and leave it at that. There is an RSVP date for a reason and he already surpassed that.

     
    25.
    Member
    2,098 posts
    Buzzing bee
    Miss Chapstick    September 2009  

    People like this really, really tick me off. If he doesn't get back to you by the 14th, I would send him one last e-mail, private message on Facebook and e-mail saying you're assuming he's not coming, and you have not included him in the guest/chair count.

    If he shows up the day of the wedding, honestly I would just be like, "Sorry, you didn't RSVP and we can't accommodate you!"

    But, I'm bitchy like that and have no sympathy for people who find it hard to even text, "yes, chicken" to let them know you're coming to an event.

     
    26.
    Member
    2,742 posts
    Sugar bee
    ktisthatbees    May 1, 2011   Atlanta GA/Charleston SC

    I would call him just before the deadline and if he doesn't respond. mark him as a "no". You shouldn't have to cater to his inability to hve common courtesy. He doesn't care to respond? Fine, then you don't care to provide a meal or a place at the reception.

     
    27.
    Member
    1,033 posts
    Bumble bee
    VagabondGurl    August 7, 2010   Wedding: NH; Living: CA

    Honestly, he'd get one phone call from me and I would say, "I need to know if you are intending on coming to our wedding so I can inform the caterer of your meal choice.  If I do not hear back from you in the next 24 hours, I will assume that to be a NO.  Hope you're enjoying your summer!"

    Simple, sweet and a quick solution.  It doesn't sound like you want him there, anyway, so if he doesn't call back - no biggie!

     
    28.
    Member Icon
    Member
    1,267 posts
    Bumble bee
    Arachna       nyc

    Agree with everyone that I would not order a meal or a chair for him.  Give him a message letting him know that you're assuming he's not coming.  And don't back down.  But be sweet.  The asshole.

     
    29.
    Member Icon
    Member
    630 posts
    Busy bee
    pendola      

    I sent an email out to those that hadn't RSVP'd and said "If I don't have an answer by the end of the week, I will assume you are not coming and will not be saving you a seat, etc."  It was much more nice than that but you get the picture.  Try to make it seem like there will be a guest check in, seats are reserved, etc.

     
    30.
    Member Icon
    Member
    574 posts
    Busy bee
    chicagobride092010    January 2010   Canada

    Why don't you just count him out?  If he attempts to RSVP yes (and what are the chances of that happening, given his reluctance to RSVP at all, ever), just say that there's a deadline for a reason.  You don't like him anyway.

     
    31.
    Member
    125 posts
    Blushing bee
    Stormala    August 28, 2010   Sherman, CT

    haha I am in an evil mood today too.... so unfortunately I am allllllllll for indulging you (even if its against my better judgement)...

    Pete is a dork-- and people like him are idiots! This is a wedding not a night out at the bar where people can leisurely show up as they please! uuuuughhh

     

    what we brides go through.... 

     
    32.
    Member
    5,166 posts
    Bee Keeper
    2PeasinaPod       Philadelphia

    Haha...suck an egg. Hilarious! I agree w/ the other posters about calling him one more time and then letting him know that he won't have a seat at the reception, so don't bother showing up! This guy sounds like he feels entitled or something...he would royally piss me off as well. The FB thing does sound soooo tempting though Wink

     
    33.
    Member
    3,319 posts
    Sugar bee
    mishelleez    November 5, 2010   DW- Bahamas

    HAHA! I would LOVE to do that sometimes! I decided if someone doesnt RSVP they are no longer invited :D

     
    34.
    Member
    2,440 posts
    Buzzing bee
    MissHelen    November 20, 2010   California

    I'd leave him a message right off the bat saying "we're really sorry you're not able to make it to the wedding. We'll miss you, but we understand!" Don't even say that you assume he's not coming. Just tell him he's not. If he really wants to come, he'll assume it's a misunderstanding and call you right back. If he doesn't, you've already taken him off your lists.

     
    35.
    Member
    630 posts
    Busy bee
    serasvictoria    August 7, 2010  

    I don't agree with using Facebook to post anything negative about anybody, a group of people, a business, or the like. The whole point is to let family and friends know what you are up to. I have no problem removing friends that start bashing in their statuses whether that is against PITA, political parties, or individuals. There is a place for that kind of crap and it isn't on MY Facebook page.

    Do.Not.Do.It. Plus it makes you look like a bad person.

     
    36.
    Member
    335 posts
    Helper bee
    ChiCat    July 17, 2010   Chicago

    So I totaly would be ticked off at this guy, and all the "oh that's just Pete!" lip you get from friends.  I'm sorry, but F him.  You've already gone above and beyond by calling and emailing multiple times, and he clearly can't be bothered, you don't really want the guy there anyway, and he does this all the time, so you know there's a 1 in a billion chance that something terrible happened (like a relative passed away, and he's too upset to talk to people) so he's just being a jerk about it.  I wouldn't be snarky in public, because if he tries to shop around for sympathy it sounds like you're both equally in the wrong, when really it's just him, but I would be more strict than you have.  He gets 48 hours from the last call or email, and if you haven't heard by then, he gets one more call.  If he picks up, fine, talk to him and tell him he has to answer _now_.  If it's his voicemail, then leave him a message saying "since the rsvp deadline passed and we didn't hear from you, and we havent been able to get in touch with you since then, we've had to give our numbers to the caterer and assume you won't be able to make it.  seems like you're having a really busy summer! hope its fabulous and we'll see you in the fall!"  Then go with zippylef's plan and tell the coordinator not to squeeze anyone in who isn't on the list.  You're not being rude, his is, and you shouldn't have to pay for it.

     
    37.
    Member
    1,644 posts
    Bumble bee
    Mermaid1082    September 4, 2010   St Louis, MO

    Tempting ... but no.

    I would leave one last "I guess we can assume you're not coming" type message and leave it at that.  If he shows, it's his fault. 

     
    38.
    Member Icon
    Member
    609 posts
    Busy bee
    JoeBeth12    June 12, 2010  

    No, "I guess we assume...." anything.  I agree with Miss Helen, sorry you can't make it, in a simple but curt e-mail, or NOTHING  at all.  Basically, do NOT set a lovely place for him at your beautiful wedding.  He hasn't responded; leave it that he ain't coming.  I had to chase down a colleague (whom I hardly if ever see anymore) via e-mail and he said yes, sorry it had taken so long to rsvp.  Then he NEVER SHOWED... and he's the life of the party and there's was this miserable empty chair where he should have been.  I was so pissed; haven't heard from him since.  Other than that, we had a 100% rsvp rate and show-up rate for 100 peops so I'm happy it turned out so well in the end.  hang in there.....

     
    39.
    Member
    588 posts
    Busy bee
    VeronicaH    April 24, 2010  

    Since he hasn't responded and you attempted to follow up with him, just send him a last message saying you're sorry he can't attend and that you look forward to seeing him after the wedding (be vague, maybe mention a group friend thing if there's something on the horizon). Yay! you're off the hook for keeping the peace and you don't have to deal with this person at the wedding.

     
    40.
    Member
    1,057 posts
    Bumble bee
    sweetpea1031    March 19, 2011  

    I would like to think I am not an evil person... but man I would be SO tempted... I wouldn't facebook shame him, speaking from an unbiased opinion.

    It my philosophy that you should avoid things you would possibly regret when it comes to your wedding, you only get to do it once, you want it to be "right" even if it isn't perfect.

    I would leave a voicemail saying exactly what you would have written, or spoken even a little softer, or have your FI leave that voicemail if he is closer to him -- its sad but a man being tough is a good thing, a woman being tough is so often called "b!$^*y" or bridezilla. Don't ruin your good reputation because he is inconsiderate.

     

    Reply »

    You must log in to post.





    Visit our sister sites eHarmony
    Online Dating
    eHarmony Advice
    Dating Advice
    Project Wedding
    Wedding Songs
    JustMommies
    Pregnancy Calendar
    Copyright 2004-2012, Weddingbee.com
     

    Find your vendors on Weddingbee

    Real reviews from brides in your area!

    Favors by Weddingbee

    • Favors by season

    Shop Now ยป

    Find Registry Find Registry Find Registry

    More
    User Posts Today
    ticatica 13
    fivemonthsnotice 12
    MrsOliveBird 11
    aussiebee 10
    janetsnakehole 8
    Scottish_lassie 7
    GelaMac 6
    j_jaye 5
    MrsMSmith 5
    Rivendeler 5

    Etiquette

    User Posts Today
    simpleandchic 2
    MrsOliveBird 1
    Myrnac13 1
    More