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Its not just filipinos that dont rsvp, babe. Good luck. I am planning on having my mom and my fi's mom call and check on the attendance.
I just wrote a post about this "ettiquette...etiwhat?" because being hispanic I know what you are going through. I think if mom is disorganized about calling, you might have to call and tell them about the restrictions on your venue. I've had to tell my mom and grandma time and time again that they are not, I repeat not allowed to invite anyone without my consent. I feel bad about this, but I have toput my foot down or they will invite the whole darn town. Good luck!
Kusinera, i am having the same issue you are! i too have not rsvp'd many many times to peoples weddings esp. the filipino weddings. Guilty as charged!
What i am doing right now is to appoint someone fr. each side of the family to do a head count. So for example, i am having mom oversee her side of the family and she in turn will appoint two cousins to do the head count for their respective families. My aunts fr. my papa's side of the family have been calling everyone on that side of the familia like celebrity stalkers to see if they are coming before the invites have even gone out! Delegate that guest list! Use your family members that keep offering to help anyways!
I have also told all of my family that our max allowed is 150! I have brought all of them to my venue and have heard their gasp of horror as they realized that i truly cannot invite more than we already are! I told them if they try to invite any more people, no ballroom dancing or swing dancing will be allowed! (its just an empty threat, can you imagine the chaos if i chose to ban it?)
This is a tough one! The only thing I can think of is to make a wedding website (if you haven't already done so) - that is of course if you think your family and friends would look at this.
Make a page all about this situation - very kindly describe the situation ("the venue seats 300 people" etc...)
When you send out your invitations and guest info - include your wedding website so that guest will go and visit it and hopefully read your info...
yeah, my Filipino relatives are adding their rsvps.....ay, ay, ay!!!!
Haha...I went to a filipino wedding years ago where there were 1000+ people invited. I had never seen so many filipinos in one venue at one time. I thought I was in the Phillipines.
Honestly, I don't know how you could get control of it. You could have your maid of honor and bridesmaids help and have each help call all the people invited.
Good luck!
well it's a filipino thing, because there is no limit in the Philippines the whole village is invited and you kill a pig and everyone cooks and helps out
very hard to translate that here because customs are very different and more expensive
sigh guess I just have to suck it up or risk being alienated by extended family
thanks for everyone's responses!
ilovenycmissie: yes, you're exactly right, it definitely it is a filipino thing where the whole village is invited!!! And very true -- the struggle is trying to remain true to our deeply rooted cultural beliefs about a wedding being a community celebration (which I really love and feel strongly about) while having to adhere to stuff like venue size, head counts, etc etc that are so important to weddings in the United States. The funny thing is that even with members of my family who have been here for many decades, generations, even -- still can't do things like RSVP on time, or they bring extra uninvited heads to the reception!
I guess I'm just going to have to put "__ seats have been reserved in your honor" on the RSVP cards even though one of my BMs thinks that's horribly rude. I mean, I do agree with her on one level, but at the same time, I just can't afford welcoming the entire village! And most Filipinos just do not understand that the only people invited are the ones listed on the invitation. What do you think? Would you get offended by this on an RSVP card?
i "married into" a filipino family and wow...i ended up having families of families just inviting themselves. the worst part was we just let it happen...i guess their happiness was worth it....can u tell that i'm still so ecstatic about it? hehehe
OMG...I totally predicted this would happen. And how ironic to see in my initial post, I predicted this scenario EXACTLY, down to the number someone would write on their RSVP.
So my mom has eight first cousins she has only met once in her life -- in 1967 when she and her siblings and parents visited the Philippines. Well, with two exceptions, most of these first cousins live in the United States and are spread out across the country and they have been separated from one another (typical Filipino diaspora -- Saudi, midwest, Merchant Marines, etc etc). Not one of them have EVER visited us in California (though my grandparents worked their whole lives in the fields to help send all of their nieces and nephews to private school and college in the Philippines). These cousins have all found us via facebook, myspace, etc. With the exception of one couple I met back in 1976, I have never met any of them who now live in the United States. None have ever taken the opportunity to visit us or my grandma, their only Auntie.
My grandma is elderly -- 88 and not doing well health-wise. One of these cousins finally came and visited us and saw how poorly her aunt was doing (she hasn't seen her since 1986). She must have told her siblings that it was "now or never" to see their Auntie. So now I was told I had to invite all of these cousins, since "they wouldn't all come, anyway!" Well, now they seem to have all put their heads together and decided THEY WOULD ALL COME and make it a huge family reunion!!! And I mean HUGE! My mom's older brother told me today that he heard from one of these said cousins. This cousin, whom I will call Emilio, told my uncle that he and his ENTIRE family were coming. FOURTEEN PEOPLE. YES, you heard me. FOURTEEN PEOPLE. They have all bought their plane tickets and are so excited to come and meet us for the first time. They are coming from the southeast coast. Mind you, I wrote "FOUR seats have been reserved in your honour" on their reply card (because my aunt never bothered to get back to me on how many there were in her cousin's family and I just guessed).
I am going to cry. The guest list is already bursting at the seams at 400, 99.9% family. My dad's side is equally as huge as my mom's side. The venue can only hold 400. I can't afford more than 375 anyway and will have to put everything on credit card. So far, I have 26 RSVP cards returned (deadline is in mid-Sept) and I have NO DECLINES. If this pattern continues, I am fully expecting every single person and more to come. My Filipino caterer says she is seeing a 95% response rate, which is typical for a recession since a wedding is seen as a free meal and entertainment (non-recession response rates are closer to 80). And we are also fully expecting more relatives to pull these kinds of shenanigans.
Mind you, we/I am paying for 99.9% of this wedding. My family is dealing with retirements, foreclosures, layoffs, and furloughs, so they can't help us much ($2,000 tops is what they are kicking in). Now my aunties and uncle and mom are all excited about this reunion with their long lost cousins and telling me that I just need to find a place to seat these people. They said they will help me a little bit financially. They're just so excited to have this family reunion. I keep saying that they should plan a separate family reunion (the sum total of just that one side of the family is 200+) and we shouldn't be expected to shoulder the financial burden of one. We will be in serious debt for years after this wedding.
To make matters worse, I had 20 close friends on a B-list that I was hoping to invite if I got any declines.
Look, I totally understand our culture. I teach it. I research it. I know the village culture of everyone being invited down to the fifth cousin once removed. And I respect it and embrace it -- that's why my guest list is already at 400, with 99.9% family and extended family. I know it's not just my day. I know it's my family's day. I just feel like I have to draw the line somewhere. I am so frustrated and sad that I can't have some of my close friends there because some family members that I have never met, and will most likely never see again, want to use this opportunity to have their long overdue family reunion.
So the compromise I presented to my family is this...that four of this family that I had accounted for in the headcount can come to the seated dinner part...and the 10 extras (I honestly have no idea who these people are -- cousins, boyfriends, girlfriends, grandchildren, friends?) can come to the reception after dinner for the dancing, cake, entertainment. No response yet from the family (I emailed it along with our floor plan to show how I would have to sit outside and eat my dinner on the grass if I had to let 10 extra people in).
thank you for reading this long vent...HELP!
WOW! I thought I was having a hard time. We've decided to have a second wedding in the Philippines for the "reunion" and it's at a fraction of the cost of having everyone go to our local wedding. As my dad says, "That's the thing about Filipinos that will never change." Guilty as charged. Didn't RSVP for the last wedding we were invited to even though we're trying to avoid it for mine.
I had put in <span style="text-decoration: underline;">"ME and the MISTER have reserved _ seats for"......
Call it tacky, but that was the only way I could keep our guest list under 200. Just like most couples, we're paying for most of this wedding, and it's scary to have extra people, especially people you don't know.
I feel your pain, people.
I agree with pinaybride....that is the only way to control the guest list.
Most of my family is on the West coast, but I'm in NYC, so from the beginning, I was dead set on having the wedding in New York so I could control the size of the wedding. My mom insisted on having the wedding in California at first, but I wanted to avoid the 400+ guest wedding. The wedding is set for March 2010 in NYC and now my mom keeps asking me to add family fiends to the invite list, but we are trying to keep the wedding to 100-120 guests (especially since the FI and I are paying for most of it).
I am also trying to have a very intimate wedding (75-100 guests) while dealing with the possibility of Filipino relatives inviting themselves and who knows who else.
To try to enforce the guest list, I am going to try to simply add the specific names of those invited on the RSVP cards AND on our online reservation.
While I am trying my best to honor my parents and all their Filipino traditions, my fiance and I are completely paying for the wedding and simply can't afford to invite people who we never see and/or don't even know.
It's probably too late.. and it might seem in bad taste to some... but here in Mexico where I live, wedding invitations come with tickets. You can tell how many people are invited because that is the number of tickets you have. They look like little white squares (or whatever color and material the invitation comes in), usually with the couple's initials -- not like movie tickets or something. Anyway, I hear you on the RSVP issue. We called everyone to confirm the numbers, but even so we had people RSVP who didn't show up, and several people show up who didn't RSVP -- who, in fact, were not invited. In the end, though, I didn't really care because it was a great day!
Oh yeah, I should mention we DIDN'T do tickets, which is probably why the random people showed up and got in.
oh no!!!!!! filipina bride here. i am mailing out my invites this week, and this scares me! hahaha
We printed the following wording on our invitations:
The favor of your reply is requested for _____ attending by January 10, 2010.
In the blank space, we filled in the number of guests, usually 1-4.
FI's brother-in-law who is tech savvy built a custom online RSVP script so that when guests logged onto our website and typed in their address, they were displayed a screen showing the names of those included in the invitation and their menu options. There was no option online for guests to add a meal for an uninvited guest (such as a +1). If anyone had questions about this, and of course they did, they could call or e-mail us and we told them that unfortunately due to budget & size of venue, the guest list is strict.
Also as you can see our RSVP deadline has just passed. About 2/5 of our guests RSVPed through the website, and a few by phone. Last week we sent out some e-mails and Facebook messages to remind guests of the deadline, and now we have about 4/5 of guests responded.
We're spending the next week calling guests who still haven't given any reply.
@weddingkitty...I really like the idea of the "tickets". I am going to pass that little tidbit to my sister.
Well I'm having a tiny wedding, but half the wedding is Cuban (also known for being late or not quick to respond to invitations) so I'm litterally getting on the horn with everyone about a month before and asking everyone. It stinks but sometimes it's just better to know.
wow, this thread has made me feel so much better! I am not filipino, but my fiance is - and I could not understand why he was inviting every person in his family - mostly people hes never ever met! Like with plus 5s, 10 children, etc! Its been a hassle and fight to get him to get the list down!
I feel bad but my parents are paying for my wedding, and they cant afford this many guests - he has to cut people down. he has twice as many people as I do - and I already cut like 50 people off my list!
This thread ALSO scares me though!! hahaha. I hope a bunch of people dont show up who arent invited!!!! I dont know where Id get the money for that :(
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Hello Pinay brides!
I am having a big, fat Filipino wedding. Ok, not as big as my auntie's (1000 people!!! it boggles the mind!) but fat for American standards: about 350 adults & children, and then 40 kids under 5 (mini baby boom amongst my thirtysomething girlfriends and relatives).
We have strict capacity requirements for our venue (thank God -- or else we'd probably have close to 500).There is no way we can go over 400. Absolutely no way.
So, I am trying to figure out how..
1) to get Filipinos to RSVP!!!! I know I've been guilty of this as well. We, as a people, just do not know how to do this. At my niece's wedding, four families (with kids, in-laws, and even boyfriends and girlfriends and dates!!!) showed up when they didn't RSVP. One family showed up uninvited!
2) To word the RSVP card politely so that I give a strong signal that ONLY family and long-term partners are invited, and not random dates or plus ones. For example, I have written (on the insistence of my family) "and family" on the invitations, and have included the children I know of on the guest list and on total head count. Now, how do I make sure that extras don't come along, or "+14" doesn't get written on the RSVP. Now, I know that one option is to put "X seats have been reserved in your honor." But sometimes people cross that out...
Unfortunately, asking my mom to call folks and clarify who is invited and how many "and family" means just isn't an option. She's really disorganized and we don't have everyone's numbers, and she's such a softie she'll end up telling them they can bring the neighbors as well.
Help!
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