Post # 1
Not sure if anyone can help with this, but it’s worth a shot!
My FI just got accepted into a Respiratory Therapy program for fall 2013. He was at the school today and spoke with the financial aid office for whatever reason (he’s a worrier), and they informed him that his eligibility to receive financial aid (grants) has been revoked.
That makes no sense.
Their reason is that he already has a degree. Yes, he got a (2-year) degree from them two years ago. He paid for that degree out of pocket. This past fall semester was the first semester EVER that he has applied for and received financial aid. They gave him an appeal form to fill out and told him to bring it back on Monday, and that they almost always approve the appeal. I think this is total bullshit. The rule (and I combed their terms and conditions and the new limits in place for Pell grants today) is that you cannot receive the Pell grant for more than 12 semesters. You also have to meet SAP (satisfactory academic progress, meaning you’re passing your classes AND actively working towards a degree). He meets both of those. It says absolutely nothing about already having a degree means you can’t get financial aid anymore. It lists several reasons you wouldn’t get it (you’re in high school, you’re receiving financial aid at another school, etc.).
So I read this appeals sheet. It literally looks like homework you’d get in middle school. The first part is why you are appealing, and the second is what you’re going to do to improve (I believe they call it a plan of action, which is for people who are doing poorly in their classes).
Anyone familiar with this at all? I’m pretty well versed in financial aid, having dealt with it for my entire college career, but this makes absolutely no sense to me.
Post # 3
It could also depend on the program. I am in nuclear med program and once I graduate end enter post bar ( many people refer to as intern), I will no longer be eligible for financial aid.. Meanwhile, they expect me to come up with 8G for the intern program
few med programs will opt you out of financial aid… Yup. It’s bullshit but its what it is..
verg likely that program is listed as “post barrach(intern) program”
if that’s not what it is.. Possibly it has to do with income he makes..
if you make more, you are entitled to have less…
Post # 4
I have been to school for my undergrad (4 years), Master’s (1 2/2) and now for 2 post master’s degrees… and I have NEVER qualifed for a grant. at. all. 🙁 I still qualify for financial aid in the form of “loans” although, to me, that is not aid at all, its more of a burden.
Sorry, I don’t have much advice for you, but there are some pretty wonky rules out there…
Post # 5
@Pam0927: It’s not listed as an intern program. It’s at a community college, so all of their programs are Associates degrees OR certificate programs (this one is Associates). It’s not about his income at all.
@redness82: Even when I was working 30 hours a week, I always qualified for the Pell grant.
Post # 6
@vorpalette: where in Michigan are You? I’m in nursing at hfcc because I’ve been in school so long and have an associates in management I have too many credit hours. They call it the 150% rule. Because I’ve completed 150% or more of the total required credit hours (even if they’re not nursing courses) I am not eligible for financial aid even though I paid out of pocket for the first 4 years of school. I appealed it once took a loan out big enough to cover most of the program and I won’t have to appeal again. Your FI will have to appeal every semester.
Post # 7
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I’ve had to appeal financial aid for other reasons, and the form was very annoying and very much like busy work. I had to repeat it every single semester. I always got approved.
Post # 8
@mmr66: Ahhhh okay, that might be it then. He’s been in and out of school for over 10 years now, and changed majors several times. I have no idea how many credits he has, but I’m willing to bet that’s probably it. I wish they’d told him the correct reason, though. In my experience, most counselors don’t really know what they’re talking about (having visited several of them at different schools while I was in college), which is really unfortunate.
Every semester, though? When FAFSA determines your yearly eligibility? Ugh. Annoying. At least we’ll know, though. Thank you!
@mrsSonthebeach: It literally sounds like something you’d bring home in middle school. “You did bad. Explain why. Tell me what you’re going to do to fix it.” It’s not even applicable in his situation. The good news is that he’ll only have to do it four times, and he’s got all of the gen eds they’ve got structured into the program done, so his tuition/books will be a little less for four of his five semesters, and the fifth (summer), he doesn’t even have to take.