Post # 1
We have talked about the flu vaccine on the boards, but I have a very specific question. I am pretty sure I will go ahead with the flu vaccine anyway, and my doctor recommedned it, but I want to know opinions from others as well as links to actual legit websites, if there are any.
My friend posted a link to this http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/study-confirms-anecdotal-link-between-flu-vax-and-miscarriage/ to my Facebook wall. She is quite a “govenment is trying to take away everyone’s rights. Stockpile food in your cellar for a government takeover” type person, BUT that is neither here nor there as I decided to give the article some consideration anyway.
The article is from 2012 and links to data from 2009 here http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/h1n1-vaccine-induced-abortion/
Just to give you a rundown of the article it claims that the flu vaccine for 2013-2014 will include the vaccine for H1N1. While this is true, the article CLAIMS that the specific H1N1 vaccine has caused miscarriages and stillbirth among pregnant women. In the linked article from 2009, MOST of the women were early pregnancy (like 12 weeks or less it seems) that ended up miscarrying and claimed it was due to the H1N1 in the shot. There were, however, some women that went into preterm labor at 16+ weeks and had stillborns.
My doctor told me to get the vaccine in my 15th or 16th week of pregnancy. She said, because she has never heard of this, she’s more concerned about me getting the flu during pregnancy than she is with this article because there were several pregnant women last year that died because of getting the flu.
Do you think that for all these pregnant women who ended up miscarrying after getting the shot it was just a fluke and they maybe had other things going wrong? Do you think they were too late in their pregnancy when they received their flu shot? Too early in it?
I am really curious to get other’s opinions and maybe some other evidence that is from a reputable website.
Post # 3
@megz06: It’s not something I’ve looked into or heard of before. Another thing to consider though is that getting the flu has been linked to a higher rate of miscarriage.
Post # 4
Ohhhhhh things like this make me SO MAD!!!
Correlation does not equal causation. Anedotal evidence is not trustworthy.
Here are the facts:
1. Getting the flu during pregnancy is associated with miscarriage and potentially deadly complications for the mother. Here’s what March of Dimes says.
2. Getting the flu or other viral illness during pregnancy has been linked to increased rate of autism.
3. Newborns can’t get the flu vaccine, so antibodies from your breastmilk will be your baby’s only source of protection for the first six months of life.
I have a Master’s degree in Public Health. My brain has a quarter of a million dollars worth of education on this stuff.
Post # 5
@megz06: The “evidence” behind women miscarrying is anecdotal. I’d take anecdotal evidence with a very big grain of salt. With anecdotal evidence there is NO way to tell if in fact the vaccine caused or is even linked in any way to the miscarriage.
It’s your decision to vaccinate or not, personally I think the benefit of the vaccine far outweighs the risk.
Post # 6
@AB Bride: That’s what I’ve always understood. I have never heard of the vaccine giving you a greater risk.
@vermonster: Thank you for the information you knowledge-rich devil you 😉 I told her I’d consdier the article, but I knew from the get go I wasn’t going to take too much of it to heart (if any). She has acquired very radical beliefs due to her hubby, and the whole article just seemed to match up with her current beliefs. The websites cited in that article on how bad the H1N1 vaccine had a comment from a lady that claims to have been a senior policy developer for the US Dept of Education, and one her websites was americandeception.com (eyebrow raise). I just can’t truly rely on data from .com websites unless I KNOW they are reputable (like March of Dines or Mayo Clinic).
Post # 7
@MrsWBS: You are absolutely correct, and like I said I will end up getting it anyway. I just decided to “humor” my friend, so to speak. It was worth looking into, but I am definitely not sold on websites that have, what I consider to be, ancient data and .com websites with no information leading to the CDC or any other reputible websites.
Post # 8
@megz06: Another thing the correlation could be due to is painkillers. Haven’t some of those also recently been correlated to a higher rate of miscarriages? I used to use them when I got the vaccines because I would be pretty achy for a week afterward.
Post # 10
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2012/11/28/h1n1-vaccine-and-miscarriages-more-antivaccine-fear-mongering-about-flu-vaccines/. It’s a blog by a scientist but I think it pretty accurately details all the flaws of this paper.
Im a biologist with a masters degree and I got my flu shot ( intradermal preservative free) around 12w. The pharmacist funny enough was due the same day as me and she had gotten hers earlier that day. If you are really worried just ask for the preservative( Thimerosal) free vaccine.
There might be a few real health reasons to not get flu shots, like adverse reactions which I experienced with the nasal vaccine, but this study isn’t one of them.