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I would let her plan the rehearsal dinner since she's paying for it. You can't really tell her how to spend her money IMO. If she wants to invite everybody {which is VERY nice of her} then find some places where it can be done in her budget.
Have you picked a place for the dinner? If so, get a quote for all of the OOT guests, subtract that $1200 from that, and ask your FMIL if she is willing to pay the difference.
Maybe she doesn't realize how expensive it will be.
I ran into a very similar situation, and we came up with a compromise. I get that its becoming more popular to invite al OOT guests, but I felt like my Rehearsal dinner was for US to celebrate low key. So, the RD will be WP and their SOs, Immediate family, family of flower girls, and a few very close aunts and uncles ad grandparents. My mom has generously offered up her house for the rest of teh guests to go to while we are at the dinner. She is having a huge bonfire and having that catered with a bar so the OOT guests have something to do and eat while we're at the "official" RD. Its proving to be quite inexpensive. Is that an option for your situation?
I don't understand how it came about to invite such large crowds to the rehearsal dinner. At ours there will only be family and people who are IN the ceremony.
I was in a similar situation, in that over 2/3 of our guests were OOT. I just explained to my FMIL that I'd really like the RD to be more relaxed and not like a second wedding reception, and although I think she was a little offended, she did as I wished.
I had the same predicament. Only 2 guests out of 170 are located in the city where we are having our wedding. We compromised to only invite OOT guests that were family....meaning aunts, uncles, and grandparents. No cousins.
Good luck!
Well, w/her agreement we had already put down a deposit somewhere that has the option to fit up to 100 people, but but for only 32 peopel the estimated total is already close to 2,000.00 after taxes (in my area the required tip of 20% is taxable at 9.75% so that sends everything higher). Also, again, she and the grooms father are splitting the cost of UP TO 1300 each, which was the budget set by her. So essentially she is asking for US to foot the extra cost for people that we have no intention of inviting.
I guess my biggest problem is that she wants to give the OOT guests (presumably only her relatives) money to go get food themselves the night of the rehearsal, which to me seems very odd....
I would tell her that you can't afford to pay the difference between their budget and the quote. Either they have to cut the guests or pay the difference, you are already paying for a wedding to feed these people!
Well, we had a similar issue, though it hasn't become a disagreement. Our Saturday wedding is semi-destination, in that no one is local (anywhere between a 1-4 hour drive for our guests). We plan on relocating after the RD for some cocktails at an area bar. For those guests that arrive on Friday, we're simply letting them know (via e-mail or our website) where the post-RD spot is and telling them to stop by if they wish. So, we're bypassing the "paying for drinks/dinner" thing but at least expressing the sentiment that we'd love to see them if they're in town early.
I'm not sure that this would appease your FMIL but really, you can't possibly pay for an evening for everyone. As DaisyBride suggests, you could ask your FMIL to pay the difference for all of the extra guests. However, as a final note, I agree with you in that most OOT guests do not expect to be catered to the night before the wedding (unless they are used to extravagant weddings!).
I went through basically the same thing with my FMIL... we went around in circles for months because what she wanted was impossible: all OOT guests invited (invite list of about 250, b/c this was before RSVPs came in), but not too expensive, but "nice" rather than "cheap/budget." FI kept saying, "mom, you can't have all three!" Finally she compromised a little bit: she upped her budget a bit, but took some people off the guest list too.
To me, it seems like the problem you're having with your FMIL is that she wants to dictate terms, but doesn't want to do the planning.
If I were you, I would talk to her and offer a few options:
-She could agree to have a smaller RD
-She could pay the extra to invite all the people she wants to invite
-You could try to get the deposit back (or some of it), and then *she* can do the research to find a venue that she is happy with (because the max budget comes out to less than $29 a person by my calculations, she might have a hard time - that's pretty low for space, food, and alcohol).
Basically, she's putting you in a situation where she's asking you to make the impossible happen (inviting everyone without spending enough to feed them all), and then asking *you* to figure out how to make it happen. You need to put the ball back in her court! Good luck!
I know she will not agree to pay the extra cost for the additional guests.....and we absolutely cannot pay for them. We are already paying for much of the wedding, along with my parents. I actually think she might be appeased by inviting people to meet us at a local bar for drinks afterward as BexSH suggested, although I don't anticipate many of them will show. But at least she'll feel like we're making a effort in her direction. And if she wants to buy them a round, more power to her.
I don't think I'll be able to dissuade her from handing them money though, she seems set on it.....hopefully she's just being snarky and will change her own mind after she realizes she's being irrational.
it's hard to say whether or not the OOT guests wil wonder about being invited to the RD. I think it's a ncie gesture, and something more and more people are aware of . With that said, I do agree if the RD becomes a second wedding reception, then it seems odd to inve all these people.
I agree with MissAsB. If she doesn't know already, she should understand the cost of this RD, rather than throw money at you and expect you to fit a square peg into a round hole.
But honestly, if she can afford to let the OOT guest gather for a dinner, at a restaurant, I don't see a problem with that. It would seem a bit immature to just give them money and explain how she's terribly sorry they weren't invited to the RD, because that's what SHE would have liked. (Or something to that effect.) But if she wanted to inform them at such and such restaurant at such and such time, other OOT guests are gathering for a pre-wedding welcome dinner, that sounds thoughtful to me. She can arrange it with the restaurant to pay for their meals, or have a set menu or something. I'm not sure what the requirements would be for reciprocation for your family, since it would be an unoffical wedding event. Certainly it would be nice to include all OOT guests. But even if it was just for her family, I suppose you couldn't stop her. (And it would get her out of your hair.)
But try to have your FI field her complaints too. Good luck.
Why doesn't she just give the extra money she was going to give to the out of town guests to you to cover them AT the rehearsal dinner? It seems very snarky to me to give the money to them and not to you. So, she should give you the agreed upon amount + whatever she was going to give to feed the extra guests and just invite them.
By the way, if she's "hosting" the rehearsal dinner with your FIL, things happen. You can't budget exactly what the cost will be. Things happen. Like all those extra guests she wants which she won't pay for.
I am so sorry you have to deal with this impossible situation. If you and your side are doing most of the wedding, she cannot expect you to cover her extra costs. Uugh. Tell her "Pay up!" And then in the meantime, focus on all of her positive aspects so that you don't get bogged down. This aside, she is probably a wonderful woman: she raised your future husband afterall!
Stand up for yourself. Tell her pay up or they are not invited. Good luck.
Well, what baffles me most about the situation is that she is the one who set the budget, saying she won't go over 'x' amount. Which I understand, she just retired and bought a house, and I don't mind that she can't afford to spend an exorbtant amount on the rehearsal dinner. I think it's nice that she is paying anything at all!
I just don't know where she's getting this extra amount of $ to just give freely to these people who won't be invited to the rehearsal dinner, when she set the budget in the first place. So maybe she's just being passive agressive and trying to force us into a corner?
Ahh, is the a prelude of things to come? She'd better watch it; this kitten has claws! :)
One more thing, my wedding situation is very similar. I don't want a big rehearsal dinner that rivals the wedding, so I am keeping my list small while my FMIL invites everyone. We are already at 70pp! It's not about the money, it's about the intimacy of the event.
To let my guests who are coming in on Friday night feel welcomed, I am making food baskets to drop off in their rooms. Nothing fancy, but definitely yummy. Good luck!
We went through the same thing, but since our Rehearsal Dinner list is now at 128 people I'm probably not the best example....
I was just wondering though, would it be possible to do some sort of compromise? I agree that her suggestion to give people money is weird but I think she's probably just worried about coming across as a bad hostess. Maybe you could have drinks and heavy appetizers from 5-7 with all of the guests at the restaurant you already have the deposit at and then have a more intimate dinner with the wedding party and immediate family at around 8. Would something like that be a possibility?
I suppose if she wanted to pay for them all to meet at a restaurant before us, that is feasable. But the actual rehearsal dinner won't start until 7:45 so no one would be there but them. Not sure if that's what she had in mind.
In lieu of throwing money at them or feeling bad about not having them at the rehearsal I wonder if she'd be willing to put together 'welcome' baskets herself and distribute them to her relatives. I am not going to do this; they are all staying at different hotels all across the city, because they could not decide on a single place and they all wanted to price shop.
shes being a crazy FMIL...dont try to analyze. crazy FMIL behavior is NOT rational.
If you do not already have a place picked out for your rehearsal dinner, you could always do something more casual like a BBQ if space permits.
Maybe she can host some sort of dessert get together after the rehearsal dinner than anyone and everyone can come to. It would be relatively inexpensive since it's just dessert, but still something nice for your OOT guests.
It sounds like the exact same situation as my wedding! Same numbers, same conversation. After going around and around with this we decided to have a small rehearsal dinner, just the bridal party and their significant others. Then after dinner, we are inviting everyone to stop by a local ice cream shop (where we will have a tab going) and we can informally meet up there. My FMIL is not completely happy with this, because her family always invites the OOT guests to dinner, but with 90 people it is just not going to happen in a price we can afford.
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Hello-
I realize that it's becoming normal to invite your out of town guests to the rehearsal dinner. However, out of a guest list of 130 people, about 90 of them are going to be out of town guests. I feel like it's ridiculous to invite almost the entire wedding to the rehearsal dinner, not to mention a lot of $. My FMIL and FIL are divorced but are both contributing equal amouts to the rehearsal dinner, not in excess of 1200.00. So....that will probably not really cover dinner for 90 people. I also feel like the rehearsal dinner should be relaxing before the 'big day' so my FH and I didn't want to invite all the out of towners.
Now FMIL is upset about it, saying she thinks it's very rude that we would not invite them. Even when we explained the whole situation to her, she was still upset and then went on to say 'fine then I'll just give them all money so they can go buy their own dinner'. I am shocked because she's usually a really sweet person, but I feel like she's just being difficult on purpose. It seems to me that if we didn't invite the OOT guests to the rehearsal, they wouldn't think twice about it, but if she gives them money to buy their own dinner in subsitution of being invited, that is sort of throwing it in their face that they aren't coming. Am I wrong in thinking this? I don't even know what to say to her about it.
I think mostly she's upset because she and her family are coming from TX. But most of my family is coming from WA also, as well as back east, and I'm quite sure she wouldn't give it a second thought if they were not invited to the rehearsal.
Am I being ridiculous about this? How do I handle it? Do I just let her give out the money (and potentially make people feel bad)? Do I try to tell her again why she should leave well enough alone? I can't very well cave and invite all the OOT guests, there is not enough $ in the budget for that.....advice, please? This rehearsal dinner is turning out to be MORE stressful than the wedding planning :(