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Ok, a little background... my FH and I moved last year from Philly to Seattle. I accepted a job out here.
Well, him and his mom are close and it was a whole ordeal when we moved. She kept making us guilty for leaving. I actually don't have a strong relationship with her anymore because of how needy she was. I would understand if my FH was an only child but he has a younger brother. I understand she's close to him but he's 26 and we can't live by her our entire lives. (Oh, this move was hard for me too because I left my family and friends too in Philly.)
Anyway, I think we've grown stronger by moving away and being on our own. Instead of relying on what family and friends think, we actually have become more independent.
And this isn't going to be permanently. We are planning on moving back to the east coast after I get my degree.
Anyway, so she's been talking to him about the songs she want our DJ to mix for their mother son dance.
This is what my FH told the DJ
For the Mother Son Dance: As we walk out to the dance floor- a short faded clip of Mama Told Me Not To Come by Three Dog Night or You Better Shop Around. Once we're on the floor and ready to dance the first 30 sec of Blue Eyes by Elton John, right up to the first line. "Blue Eyes, Baby's Got Blue Eyes ... Like a Blue Blue Sea On A Blue, Blue Day" ... then there is a good few seconds of music that you can fate out of that and into Blessed by Elton John. Finally once the dance is over my Mom wanted to play a short short short clip of a Kenny Chesney song: There Goes My Life, where he sings, "...he checked the oil, slammed the hood, said you're good ... and headed off to the west coast ... he cried, there goes my life" Please cut it off completely after "there goes my life" because he immediately sings something else that's irrelevant to the wedding.
I don't mind the songs but the one song that I would particullarly not have is the Kenny Chesney song. It's like she is once again upset by the fact that we moved. I don't know why she wants that part... yes I bet when we moved away, she listened to that song all the time. I think it just dampens the mood of the wedding. I don't know if this is the right cliche... but it's like she's putting salt in my wound. I already know how hard it was for her son to move away but really??
I know, I don't really have a say because it is their song and not mine. I just know that I'm going to be sitting there on my wedding day, dreading to hear this Kenney Chesney song.
I guess I'm just venting... it's just something that I can't really do anything about and I'm going to have to get over it... it's only a few seconds long....
This is so much easier to say than do, but call her and tell her simply "No". Tell her it makes you uncomfortable and exactly why it does. You won't leave her much wiggle room with that.
Can you tell her it's too complicated to fade in and out of all sorts of songs? And have her just pick one song to focus on?
Seems to me like it might be a little disjointed otherwise.
I can see why it's hard for her, but at some point... you gotta learn to adjust/deal with the hand you're dealt! (MIL, not you).
I think this is a rather crazy request - it's a mother-son dance not a mother-son fest. I'm with daydreamwanderer on this, blame it on your dj and tell her she needs to pick a single song.
Oh, and that Kenny Chesney song is about a father-daughter relationship, not mother-son.
It's far too "busy" to even be pulled off correctly.
I'd have a talk about her preference of song and the meaning behind it as it's usually a celebration of the whole relationship (mother/son).
Ugghhh, she sounds awful but just like my FMIL. If she reacts the same its not worth the discussion. Is there anyway you can just talk to the DJ and have him do what you want? It's your wedding not hers.
I don't even see how that would work! It sounds like a very disjointed and confusing mother/son dance!
If I were you I would first talk to your FI about how this bothers you - because he needs to know that it's upsetting you! Then the two of you can go to your FMIL together and tell her that if she wants to have a compilation of songs for the mother/son dance that's fine, but that particular song is just not going to work.
You said that your FH wrote this to the Dj. It kind of sounds like he's OK with it. So I'm not sure I would step in the middle.
The part that seems the weirdest to me is all the fading in and out. So I'm with daydreamer there. If the DJ is OK with it, I'm not sure you can use that as an excuse. But you might be able to convince either FH or FMIL that it'll sound weird to have so many songs. (And I understand they are probably trying to do it, so only the lyrics that apply to their relationship are played. But this is too much.)
If your Fi is not really keen on the idea, I would work on him. I would definitely not go to your FMIL. She probably already blames you for taking him away. No need to make things worse. If your Fi is fine with her requests, I would try to make innocent observations, like all the fading in and out seems weird and difficult to dance to. Other than that, I would leave it alone. Yes, it is your wedding, but the mother/son dance is their moment.
I think you first need to talk to FI about how you feel about the selected song and all the fading. Explain that it makes you uncomfortable and you feel like his mom is still trying to show that she is angry that y'all moved west for a few years. See what he says and go from there.
I agree. You should talk about it to your FI about how it makes you feel. Maybe he'll talk to her & say no, maybe you'll have to. You should stand up for it if you don't want that played. I wouldn't want it played!
Ugh, what a terrible mess. When I try to imagine all the fading in and out and the short, clipped lyrics, it sounds terrible to me. Plus, i agree with you that those end lyrics are just offensive to you. I would talk to your FI, tell him how you feel about the music and the disjointedness of it all. Tell him that you'd like them to change it. Maybe just keep the main song. Why do they need music to walk onto and off the dance floor?
I could be the mother of the groom. (just referring to my age-lol) anyway, I LOVE that Kenny song, because it reminds me of when I did have our son. I was pregnant and we weren't married at the time. We loved each other and got married, and you think with an unplanned pregnancy "am I doing the right thing, etc.." anyway, our son was born and he (and our daughter) became our life. Not in a creepy too attached way, but he adds to our lives and is just about perfect. He went off to college, got an excellent job, lives in a city 2 hours away, and when my daughter went to college, we found we liked the time alone we never had before we got married. But this song reminds me of how the little unplanned things in life doesn't mean its all over. It doesn't sound like she gets the same feeling from the song I do, and I agree that her way sounds too choppy and doesn't flow good. Then again, its just one dance with a woman who raised the man that you love, and if he wasn't a good son, chances are he wouldn't be a good husband or father. BTW, our wedding anniversary on Nov. 20 will be our27th!! (and I still love him so much) Have a great life!!!
oh, and I probably would have been more offended by the "you better shop around"...what does that mean?
Wow. Last I checked, it was a mother-son *dance*, not a concert. I think that's going to be really confusing to your guests, with four (if I counted correctly) songs fading in and out. Can you talk to your fiance, about how the Chesney song bothers you, and have him talk to his mom? It really does sound like she's just sticking it on the end to make a point, and that's a little mean.
@kitty-I was thinking the same thing! What exactly is the meaning behind "You'd Better Shop Around"? That song is definitely not wedding appropriate.
I also agree that all the fade-in/ fade-outs will make it a disjointed mess. I think it should be one song that is a celebration of their relationship with no "hidden" (or not-so-hidden) meaning about you AND a happy, wedding appropriate song.
My FMIL and I had some huge issues when FI and I got together. He had lived his whole life in Maine, except for college. When we got together, he moved out to AZ with me. I'm glad she has come around and we have a good relationship now. Talk to your FI and find a way to tell her "No."
Eh, leave it. She gets two measures of a song and you've got your soon to be husband. It's a very, very small consolation prize. Anybody who actually manages to listen to that small snippet of song will only feel sorry for her.
Is there a way for your DJ to record the, uh, sequence? arrangement? clusterf***?she's picked out for your FH to actually hear? He may be fine with it because he hasn't stopped to think about what all that fading and shifting will sound like.
That sounds awful. Those songs are going to sound like a mess all mixed together and people are going to be confused. I agree with PPs...talk to FI, and hopefully you can just blame the DJ and tell her to pick one song. You'll have to deal with whatever song she picks, unfortunately, but it will be better than her suggested idea.
Also, you might want your fiance to pick one of those songs and be prepared to say to his mom, "I really wanted to dance with you to XXXX". That might sway her a bit.
Has the DJ responded to this wacky request?
Two words: hot mess.
I'm sorry you've been put in this place. I'd talk to him though. He may not realize how hurtful or weird those song(s) make you feel.
I told him that what I felt and also about the whole song "you better shop around".
He also says I'm just being b@$&(y about it considering that her and I don't get along. This wedding planning has broken me and FMIL apart and I had to keep her out of the planning process. I wish I didn't have to but she was getting to be too much and it was causing FH and I to fight. We were close to calling off the wedding because of her.
I was little erked by the "you better shop around" song too... but my FH says that its just a title of the song and it's not as bad as it sounds. He says it a classic oldies song played at weddings. I don't know.
My FH is letting his mom do her thing and he says that this is their moment together and this is why he's letting her have all these songs.
He spoke to the DJ a few weeks ago tellling him that his mom wants to do a medley of songs. The DJ said that was fine. I don't know what the DJ will think now that he has to mesh 4 songs together. Hopefully, he'll realize that its going to be harder than he thought.
BYW, I'm dancing to one song... Butterfly kisses for my father daughter dance.
It may be your FMILs dance but it is most definitely YOUR wedding. She would be able to pick any song she like so long as it wasn't blatantly disrespectful to you but it would be just that...ONE song. All of that fading in and fading out is too much for a 3 minute dance. Is she planning on dancing the night away with YOUR husband? Sheesh...
...I didn't see your last post until I had already posted mine. It also looks like you need to have a LONG talk to your FI about where his new priorities lie...beside him...and not with his mom. The day is supposed to be about the two of you..not his mom and her "empty nest" syndrome.
No offense, but your FMIL sounds a little wacko...talk about overdramatic! Her suggestion for all those songs is ridiculous. The bottom line is that it's not her wedding - it's yours - I don't think you should allow it.
That is a really, really strange medley... looks like FMIL has issues! I think you need to work this out with your FI, though, not his mother.
Oh, and there's also some songs that she want to to play for her boyfriend and also she want to dance with him to another slow song. I told him that there are songs that we both wanted to play and I asked the DJ how many slow songs we should play and he said a couple. I don't know if he's going to play the songs that we want and her songs plus any requests that other guest want. Also, it really up to the DJ to play what he wants because if no one is dancing... why are we paying him.
Ok, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt that since she hasn't really been in involved in the wedding process that maybe she thinks she should go all out this mother son dance.
Also, I kinda wanted to do a generation dance too.. and I know that this is a slow song... The number of slow songs at this wedding that we want versus how many we can play is getting really tiny.
Ohhhhh, no no no. You should definitely not let her pick songs for her boyfriend and then more songs for her to dance with her son. That is out of control. Plus you don't even get to "pick" that many songs. I think our DJ said we could pick 20-25. This woman sounds seriously deluded.
I'd be more upset about "mama told me not to come" and "you better shop around" UM WTF?! What a bi@#h!
The whole thing sounds like a mess. I bet your DJ won't do it. You FMIL gets one song. I mean who requests that? The guests are going to be like...okaaaay psyco.
You and hubby should dance to "he aint coming home no more" by Nina simone ( yes, I looked this up for you).
I do think that's a little much in terms of the dance. You may want to have your fiance talk to her and just explain that he (and you) were looking for something a little more simple. Maybe just concentrate on one song? I mean, I feel like this would be a long, drawn out thing which would be kind of strange as a guest. I totally get that she wants her "moment" with her son, but this seems a little excessive.
@ flamingred LOL That is so funny. LOL
Oh, I just email my DJ just asking if he thinks he can do the medley of songs. I don't want the DJ to think I'm going to be one of 'those' brides who control everything.
I did tell him that I would prefer that he not include the "you better shop around" song because I read the lyrics and I don't think it is wedding appropriate.
I also did ask the DJ if he can record it so we can get a taste of what it will sound like.
I didn't bring up the Kenny Chesney part at this point. I didn't want to get all into it.
OMG. I just read the lyrics to "momma told me not come" and they aren't any better either. What the hell is she thinking?
I don't know if your FI realizes it or not, but every one of her song selections is a dig at you. I would be shouting down the house right about now...LOL! You are much calmer than I would be.
That's going to sound completely disjointed and will totally ruin the flow of whatever your DJ is trying to accomplish. I think his FMIL sounds super, super selfish and while I wouldn't say it to her face, she needs to GET OVER the fact that her son is getting married to you. You'd better shop around is a super popular song, but having just that line interjected is kind of classless and a not-so-subtle dig at you. I'd have a long talking with your FI about what's appropriate at the wedding that is supposed to celebrate y'all getting MARRIED and not his mom's funeral feelings about you marrying him.
AND if him leaving the house was her whole life leaving, well, she might need to make more friends, join a club, volunteer, adopt a pet, or start a hobby.
well if it helps at all my friend and her father danced to that Kenny song...because he was 18 when he had her and if u listen to the whole song it was really fitting. I see what you're saying though, but I don't take the song as being bitter that you guys left, its just sayin that hes her 'life'. now hearing what you're saying about her it may give off that vibe, but i never took the song that way. personally i think all the fades in and out with different songs is a bit much. She sounds like shes takin over and makin it her day. and ive never heard it but 'you better shop around' doesnt really sound like an appropriate wedding song!!
but as far as how many songs u can select...we didnt have any kind of limit, we can tell him as many songs as we want and the ones we dont want, so i wouldnt worry about that, but i guess check to make sure. but dont let her take over your day or make u feel uncomfortable...cuz remember if it bothers u now, think of how uncomfortable u will be on ur wedding day having to stand there through it!!
Really, as much as I don't want to say this, you're probably best off to just let this one go.
Yes, this is a bit weird, but your FI has made his decision and you should respect it. It's his dance with his mom.
To be honest, I don't know if she's "rubbing it in." What the song is describing is what exactly happened, and it's something a lot of parents go through. My mom sent me a CD with "Wide Open Spaces" on it my freshman year of college for the same reason.
Oh, some "Shop Around" lyrics:
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Before you take a man and say I do now
Make sure he's in love with you now
Make sure that his love is true now
I hate to see you feeling sad and blue now
My mama told me
You better shop around
If I were you, I'd let this one go totally. Your wedding is only a few weeks away and you're going to have much more pressing things to worry about! And on your wedding day, you shouldn't be caring about her!
My MIL did the same thing at our wedding, she wanted certain songs played and we didn't. Well, I didn't warn the DJ about her, so she got pushy with him and he played what she wanted. Warn your DJ ahead of time that you DO NOT want those extra slow songs she's requested played and he needs to refuse if she asks. That is his job.
Anyway, when it's time for the mother/son "dance", be somewhere else. That's what I would do. Not everyone watches the parent/children dances, so use that time to mingle. Besides, people will only think she's crazy for having songs like that in the wedding - they're so transparent and every single guest will be wondering what they hell your FMIL is thinking. You're the bride, they'll all be sympathizing with you.
If you *really* can't stand the idea of having those songs play, I'd mention this angle to your FI: those songs are totally inappropriate and his mother is going to embarrass herself.
You should definitely talk to him, not the FMIL.
I don't know where my opinion lies; on one hand I would let her do it and look like an ass- the songs choosing won't be a reflection of you but her instead. I'm sure all the guests will be like "WTF woman?" But on the other, this is utterly ridiculous.
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