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    I'm planning and DIYing much of my wedding and desperately need help with the formality aspect.. There will be 3 bridesmaids and groomsmen, a buffet meal, the groom will be in a kilt and i'll be in a floor-length lacy dress.  Our ceremony and reception will take place at a senior center (which sounds odd, but it's got wood floors, lots of windows, high ceilings, and is cheap and clean)...  but I'm having a hard time establishing the "formality" level - for instance, can/should we have place cards?  Is it wrong to have paper or plastic plates and plastic silverware?   Help if you dare!

    [a little more info - our invites and other paper have been designed and printed at home, and our flowers will largely consist of silk daisies...  in case it helps. :D]

     
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    smartl    August 23, 2008   Vancouver, BC

    Personally I would not do plastic cutlery or paper plates for anything except a backyard BBQ or a picnic.  They can be awkward to use, they are not so great for the environment and no matter how fancy everything else is, they will REALLY bring down the level of formality.  If you're trying to cut down on costs, in my opinion it would be a good idea to do so in another area of the budget.  This is not something that will go unnoticed.

    As for place cards - I say do them, but not necessarily for formality reasons.  It's just usually a bit chaotic to have guests seat themselves - there's always a couple of tables of people who end up sitting together because there were no other seats left.  People will be seated quicker and probably enjoy themselves more if you create a seating chart and place cards so they have an assigned seat with people they will like socializing with.  However, you don't have to spend a lot on place cards if that's your concern.  They can be an easy and cheap DIY project and still look really lovely.

     
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    amysue    6/6/09  

    I agree that plastic cutlery and paper plates probably aren't a good idea. They can be very tough to eat with and, as smart said, will be a very salient cost-cutting measure to guests. How many guests are you having? Does anyone have any suggestions for where to get/rent reasonably priced dinnerware?

     
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    between 50 and 100 guests will be present...  and we're in central oregon, in case it makes a difference.  :)

     
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    sarahmkruse    December 15, 2007   Tampa, Florida

    I personally would not settle for plastic cutlery. Then again, I am anal retentive. 

     
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    princesskittyHI    May 2007   Honolulu, HI

    I have to disagree...I don't think there's anything wrong w/ plastic (though I do have some environmental qualms, I will admit). I am incredibly anal, and I still felt perfectly fine with plastic cutlery.  We chose black plates and black cutlery. On the other hand, we also were using wooden chopsticks (the rounded, more elegant kind, not the crappy splintery stuff) and miniature "Chinese takeout boxes" and "saimin soup spoons" (um, Chinese soup spoons?) as serving dishes, so there was already an element of "disposable-ness."

    For us it also worked b/c we did a "heavy hors d'oeuvres"/cocktail-style service -- food stations and passed trays.  I don't think people expect china from a passed tray as much as they do for a formal dinner.  We did, however, have real glassware, not plastic.  It may be a little stranger for your set up, since you say you are doing buffet. If you are serving meats that need to be cut, that may also present difficulties.

    But, to be honest, I don't think that many people will care, as long as you're not using super flimsy paper plates with cheesy designs that spill on them. If the food is good, they'll care more about that and not notice what they're eating off of. These days, there are some very nice heavy plastic pieces. There are even ones that imitate glass plates.  Whatever you choose, just don't mix and match cutlery and plates (go all disposable or all "real.")

    As far as open seating, we did that as well.  Again, we did cocktail-style service, so it was not so shocking.  It saved us a lot of stress about figuring out who had to be kept away from whom, and who would want to sit by so-and-so.  We did save tables for the parents and their selected guests (10-top tables). We didn't force the bridal party (plus spouses) to sit together; they sat where they wanted to. 

    Honestly, if everyone has a good time, enjoys the company, the food, the music and loves you, no one will care what they ate of off or if they chose their own seat.  You know your crowd best; if it'll offend them, then yes, maybe you are better off with "real." 

     
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    piperbenjamin    June 2008   Philly

    ideally an indoor wedding would have metal cutlery... but as long as its "silver" noone will notice it's cheap, and you can use it forever at family picnics, or donate it to a soup kitchen. ikea is a good place to start.  there are also a lot of fun alternatives to white plastic.... i really like the birch one.

    $0.75 /guest

    http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/50087185

    $2 /guest

    http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/90043076

    eco friendly disposables:

    http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/12/biodegradable_d_2.php

    birch:

    http://www.barmans.co.uk/products/product.asp?ID=3455

     

     
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    MissBlushing    September 2008   Philadelphia, PA

    At the risk of sounding like a snob -- I have been to a lot of weddings, but without missing a beat I can tell you the two semi-formal weddings (ie, bride in long formal dress, groom in tux, guests dressed in cocktail dresses and suits) where plastic cutlery was given to guests.  I try really hard not to judge, because you just never know people's financial situations or reasonings behind their choices, but my initial reaction on both occasions was that it just made me feel overdressed and a little disappointed. I'm sorry if that sounds ridiculous or totally superficial -- but it was my honest reaction.

    Now, if both of these weddings had been casual, or outdoors, or bbq-themed, the cutlery most likely would have gone unnoticed by me and other guests; I think it's how it all blends together, and to me, it sounds like your attire and the reception site will set a more formal tone.  I think plastic cutlery would be an informal contradiction to everything else you are aiming for.   

    I agree with princesskittyHI that in the grand scheme of things no one will care or change their opinion of you if you use plastic cutlery and paper plates, but I also don't think it will go unnoticed.   Just my honest opinion   Good luck!  

     
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    princesskittyHI    May 2007   Honolulu, HI

    Ha ha, MissBlushing, that's so right:  there's a HUUUGE difference between what people *notice* and what they really *care* about!

    I think I got a little off-topic and defensive about the "plastic does NOT have to be tacky" line of thought. I do agree w/ everyone that for bettina's situation, plastic might not be appropriate b/c of the buffet line and the indoor location. I'm still a big advocate of alternatives to silverware and china for outdoor and/or cocktail-style receptions!

     
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    Costco sells some very nice faux silverware - we use them at my church for our Women's luncheons. They also sell a sturdy plastic plate in 2 or more sizes (i believe it is a set) that has a simple silver band on the plate. I used them for my daughter's shower.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    i agree... aim for no plastic if you are financially able (and environmentally saavy!)

    for a recent wedding i was assigned the task of buying hor d'oerve serving trays, plates, etc. at the last minute. i went to party city and was initially attracted to the cheapest flatware possible, but then someone pointed out that you could find the same plasticware at a picnic - not something formal where your guests are dressing up in their best and also shelling out a good deal on your wedding gift. 

    maybe you could ask friends and family to use their nice silverware from home?

    someone mentioned wooden chopsticks and takeout boxes. if you do asian cuisine, that sounds like a great idea.

     
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    sarahdoo    November   Houston via Biloxi

    im using plastic simply because i cannot afford to rent the real thing. 

    of course i would rather have metal, but it wasn't something i wanted to spend so much extra on (and sacrifice other things, like my paper lanterns) when there was a (much) cheaper alternative. also i dont mind too much because we're having a bbq. 

    you do what you can, you're dishing out a ton of money for this wedding.  don't worry if a few guests might think it's uncool, you can't please everybody, so its silly to spend extra money trying.  if you're ok with them then you get them, and odds are nobody will care anyhow.  

     
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    we're actually planning on pasta, and if we did paper/plastic plates we'd have to get very sturdy ones.  i really would like to do "real" plates, but i'm not sure it's financially feasible.  the silverware is not such an issue, you can get 5 forks for a buck at the dollar store (though they obviously wouldn't be the best silverware around, but they'd be better than plastic anyway), but as princesskittyHI pointed out, it'd look better if it was an all-or-nothing situation.

     thanks, everyone, for your comments!  keep 'em coming!

     
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    shimmerplanet    8/8/08   Orange County

    I'm probably going to go the plastic cutlery route as well. But in my defense, the utensils are "high end" plastic, and they look like real silver. Granted, they are not as sturdy as the real thing, but they are a step up from basic plastic. Also, while I don't want to classify my wedding as "casual", it will feature a buffet dinner, and it will take place outside in a garden setting of a historic mansion. Sure, I would rather have the real thing, but our finances are already maxed out. I never really thought that this might be considered incredibly tacky...but maybe that's because I hope my guests don't get hung up on their utensils (crossing my fingers!).

     
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    shimmerplant, out of curiousity, what will you be using for plates/dishes?

     
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    Weazie    10/20/07   Durham, NC

    I'm using plastic too. We're having a stations reception with small plates and people will be mingling while eating, so I don't think that the silverware will be a big deal. I think you're on the right track by nixing real silverware if you can't afford it. People are there to celebrate your marriage, not judge your cutlery. Not very many people will notice, care, or pay attention.

     
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    shimmerplanet    8/8/08   Orange County

    Acrylic plates - clear plastic. Sounds a little cheesy now that I'm typing it, but in reality, they look fine. The catering company that we're using has 3 categories of plates/utensils to choose from - regular paper/plastic, acrylic, or china. For the extra $9/person it would cost to upgrade to china, we've just decided to go with the acrylic. All of the serving pieces will come courtsey of the caterers and will be standard serving pieces, not plastic.

     
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    princesskittyHI    May 2007   Honolulu, HI

    Well, here's another idea for you, but it will potentially take a lot of time. As I mentioned before, we used Chinese take-out boxes to serve some items -- a noodle salad and a Thai beef salad.  Pasta would look very cute in the boxes, and would also mean that your different pasta sauces don't mix together on a single plate.

    Here's the part where the work would come in: b/c pastas are so "sauce-y" you will probably need to seal the bottoms of the boxes a bit better than they might already be (some are folded together only, no  glue at the bottom, which leaves the possibility of leakage). 

    You could get some cute "serving tray boxes" that people could arrange 4 of the take-out boxes in to carry them back to their table -- that would allow them to pick 4 pastas. If you were feeling ambitious, you could decorate the serving boxes and/or the take-out boxes.

    Just some ideas for you to consider! 

     
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    Angel    July 15, 2005   Snohomish County, Washington State

    Have you thought about Craig's List? I'm not sure if you're in Washington or Oregon right now, but there's a listing for silverware that was used for weddings in the WA CL. I'm not sure how much you need, but it might work.

    http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/hsh/452184272.html

    This is also a great resource for centerpiece bowls, votives etc.

     
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    I attended a wedding last month where paper plates and plastic cutlery were used.  I had been primed to notice this in advance because the MOB complained about it weeks before the wedding (not her choice).  I was prepared to be sniffy about it.

    No one noticed nor cared.  I can't tell you what was used exactly; I don't remember.  I remember the food was excellent, the buffet was wonderful, the servers were attentive.

    The wedding was so lovely in every way - bride and groom crazy about each other, loving families, gorgeous day and location, everyone celebrating...

    Paper plates?  Don't worry about it, it really doesn't matter.

     

     
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    Hi there, this post actually inspired me to register :)

    I'm having a relatively formal wedding (wedding at the church, reception at a yacht club), but we're on a pretty tight budget. At first, my fiancee was absolutely against having anything but "real stuff".  Then we saw the price to rent silverware and china....

    We got a GREAT deal on silverware off of ebay.  200 each of knives, soup spoons, teaspoons, dinner forks and dessert forks for $225 shipped.  You can't beat that! We plan to either resell it or donate it after the wedding.  Look for "lots of silverware" on ebay, it's usually aimed towards restaurant people.

    And we found beautiful high end plastic plates at Costco...they really look like china, have the decorative edge and everything.  They were packages of 25 each of dinner and dessert plates for around $11 I think. We're planning to use the clear plastic plates for the cocktail hour.

    Good luck!!

     
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    dreambml    4/12/08   Boston

    please don't use plastic cutlery and paper plates!  I am sure you can find something cheap...try a job lot or something.  it is so hard to eat with plastic forks and knives - can't cut, forks won't stick into things, etc.  if you are going to spend money on something, do it on this.

     
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    I get that it's hard to cut meat and other things with plastic cutlery... but in this case it's going to be overwhelmingly bite-sized pasta.  I doubt anyone will really need to CUT anything. 

     does that change anything, dreambml?

     

    Malibu918, can you give me the name of the ebay seller you used?

     

     

     
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    Angel    July 15, 2005   Snohomish County, Washington State

    Thanks, Malibu918!

    <font color="#0000ff">http://stores.ebay.com/TC-Enterprises</font>

     
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    pancy    06/13/09   orange county/los angeles

    I just went to a wedding this weekend and they had plastic plates and utensils. They looked like real china! (i think proabably like the ones that malibu918 talked about) plus the plastic ware was a silver color and looked really fancy. our whole table was surprised when we actually touched them and commented on how clever it was (not tacky). they looked so real! i think it really depends on the whole ambience you set and i think it goes well with your pasta. i think as long as you don't go with PAPER plates things will look great. good luck!

     
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    I would just suggest not using plastic for environmental reasons alone, regardless of formality or other aesthetic reasons. That is a LOT of nonrecyclable waste that you would be putting in the trash.

    Of course I realize that using real silverware is not in everyone's budget so if that's the way you have to go, so be it. But before you commit, some of the suggestions thus far (ebay, ikea and such) for real silverware are really worth looking into!

     

     

     
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    Angel's link actually links to the guy I bought from, his ebay name is tccoward.  Great to work with, great prices, definitely check out his stuff.

    Let me know if you have any more questions!!

     
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    Angel    July 15, 2005   Snohomish County, Washington State

    I was actually looking at purchasing 200 of the 5 peice from him, but if someone's reselling theirs, I'd be interested. My friend's wedding is in July and I'm looking at keeping them long-term for other family events.

     
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    I can't help you in that respect, Angel...my wedding isn't until October '08. :) Sorry!

     
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    I echo other's comments to try to purchase the lots of Ebay or Craigslist and then resell them after the wedding.  Yes, it takes more money up front than plastic, but after reselling the items, I think that you can basically recoup most of your money (making it cheaper in the long run).

     

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