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This happens alot , I used to be the party girl to, then I had my children puts a whole new perspective on things. More than likely you and your honey will have kids as well and that will make this even tougher! Selfish people dont make good friends at all,, you have to think, do you ask them how they are doing feeling? if you do and they dont return the support you might have to let them go. True friends go through these things kinda part ways and meat back up again when they are on the same page. Fake friends stay gone lol,, partys, men , dramma sure the hunny wouldnt apr. the dramma you dont really need it right now either. Just get through the wedding. The one that offerd to help seems like a good friend maybe just a nice person do you realy think shes trying to sneek into the wedding party? If you realy feel that then ewww not nice. Good luck its a new phase in your life enjoy it you got your best friend always your husband!!!!
Umm...I don't know, it sounds like you totally blew them off in the beginning and now you want them to not only throw you an engagement party but also beg you to come out with them? That seems very one sided to me. Maybe you need to make amends for ditching them first and then worry about what they can do for you.
The way you told this story makes you sound like a pretty bad friend. They were excited for you and you blew them off and now you're upset they don't want to throw you a party anymore? Also, how can you be thinking about ditching them as friends AND still be thinking about having them in your bridal party?
It kind of sounds to me like you are mad at your friends for not kissing your ass. Sorry to sound so harsh-but I would re-read your post and think about who sounds like the bad friend.
Agreed with the above... why would you put someone in your bridal party that you may not even want as your friend? That seems really weird to me.
It sounds to me like you don't understand what friendship is. You can't just blow them off for a long time then suddenly reappear and expect to be right back where you started. And I agree it sounds totally off the wall that you would ask girls to be BMs who you don't even want to be friends with.
While I know it can be sad to think that your friends aren't 'missing' you, it sounds like they're darned if they do, darned if they don't here. I mean, what's the alternative to saying "No problem, we'll catch up later"? If they whined and complained that you don't have time for them anymore, wouldn't you be annoyed that they don't understand you're an engaged woman now?
I think maybe you are feeling estranged from your friends because you're in a different place right now, but it's not fair to blame them for this. Sometimes this just happens when you're at a different stage in your life.
Circus Peanut... i think you said it best. While I do agree with all the other posters that yes, my story is one-sided (hence, my story) there were reasons for distancing myself such as the jealousy issues and plus, only ONE of those girls offered to throw me the engagement party...the others were too busy being jealous and/or going through a breakup with their long- terms boyfriends so yes I do cut them some slack there. I do still want them in my bridal party but can't pick 5 girls and feel terrible for trying to when I'm not really sure who I'm closest with anymore. Its just a mess!
@TG20 - With all due respect I just re-read a lot of your posts and I have to tell you I don't think everyone is jealous of you for being engaged.
And what gives you that impression Ms. Charleston? I am really just trying to find some answers here. Constructive help is much appreciated
You know, I think sometimes friendships run a natural course and then they die out. Unfortunately it used to happen because of time, distance, being busy or at different life stages. But now with cell phones and social networking we are required to be connected at all times, so things don't run their natural course and we end up staying in touch with people that we don't really have much in common with anymore. So now this gets brought to the forefront when a big event, like hopefully something happy like a wedding and not a crisis, occurs.
I so understand where you're coming from. One of my BM's was a good friend, then we drifted apart, got close again the two years before I got married so I put her in the wedding. She was a total jerk the whole time she was in my wedding party and actually tried to sleep with several of our married groomsmen, apparently sitting at the wedding party table and criticizing our wedding while it was going on! Since I've been married she doesn't get that I don't have the money for $300 concert tickets and I don't have the money or desire to take a week long vacation with her when my husband and I rarely get to do that together. So she invites me to these things constantly and I end up looking like I"m "blowing her off."
If you want to hang out with these girls, then maybe invite them to do something that is non-couple related. But if you really don't enjoy being friendly with them anymore, find someone else to hang out with. As far as the party goes, noone is required to throw you anything, sorry to say. Personally I never understood the whole Bachelorette thing --- I wanted to get married, so why would I go out for the purpose of getting drunk and freaking out about getting married?
@TG20 - I kind of have to agree with Ms.Charleston, obviously we don't all know the entire stories for everything but it does kind of seem like a theme in a lot of your posts. You state "jealousy" as a reason for a lot of problems you have. Maybe they aren't jealous but there are other factors at play that you should consider? Maybe its that you've ignored them a lot lately like you indicated in this post. Or maybe its that the drama they caused to begin with stems from somthing else and they are getting a little bothered by the fact that you think they are jealous when its really something else. Just an idea.
It doesn't really sound like you want to be their friend anymore.
If you do, why dont you invite them out for happy hour to reconnect?
I think if you aren't at the point where you are like "These are my bridesmaids!" then you shouldn't have any. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you don't even want to be friends with these people? Seriously, I almost feel like I am missing something.
Also, I agree that it doesn't sound like anyone is jealous. You haven't asked anyone to be in the wedding, so why would they assume bridesmaid duties if they aren't offically bridesmaids? I mean I'm happy when my friends are engaged, I scream with them, hug them, buy them a drink, but that's pretty much it. What else is it that you want them to do if they are not in your wedding party?
I should note that I do see them regularly, like once a week... I just miss out on things because they see eachother 3-4 times per week.
I have to agree with alot the posts here..its YOU that doesnt seem like the good friend. My friends never threw me an engagement party, i never chalked it up to jealousy i chalked it up to it being expensive and unnecessary when there is a stagette, shower and wedding on the horizon.
Just because people arent crawling on the ground to please you cause you are now a fiance to someone doesnt mean they are jealous. The world is still revolving wether you are getting married or not.
If you REALLY want this friendship to work i suggest you do what Aubergold said and YOU call THEM and have a ahppy hour..NO WEDDING TALK...just happy huor with you and all your girlies to reconnect. Maybe even apologize for being so bridal brain (even though thats fine and acceptable..the gesture is nice)
@TG20 – I am trying to be contructive, from some of your posts thats just the way it SOUNDS...You have a lot of posts dealing with issues you're having with your friends and I'm just trying to help by showing you what maybe your not realizing. Some things you've said lead me to believe you focus on jealousy too much...
My soon to be FSIL (fiance brother's girlfriend) is jealous of my wedding
I guess, it could be part jealousy, part common interest with the single girl since I'm engaged and they're both single
I feel like my wedding should be the center of conversation and while it is, its not as much as I would like it to be
Now, I feel as though she is almost jealous that I'm engaged and she isn't causing her to distance herself. Don't you think a good friend would stand by you and not be jealous because one part of your life is going better than hers?
We NEVER talk about my wedding and I didn't say anythign about wanting an engagement party...they were throwing me a girls engagement dinner, just a few girls goin out to dinner which we do all the time anyways, this would just be in honour of my engagement!
I dont see the problem here then! You said you hang out like once a week, but they just hang out more?? and you want to be a part of that?
Who really cares that they are not having a dinner honouring you? Your engaged...go have anice dinner with your fiance to celebrate! :)
I have a friend who I tried to get together with but she was always too busy so now whenever she has to reschedule I say no problem because I don't expect her to be able to make plans anymore. That's what happens if you blow your friend off all the time. You'll need to be the one that makes plans for a while if you want to be back in with them again.
I think you misunderstand how friendship works, sorry.
This is going to sound snarky...but I really don't know how else to phrase it. So I am just going to be blunt about it.
YOU BLEW THEM OFF!
This is the same exact issue that you posted about 2 months ago see post: http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/completely-alone! Really it's time to put this issue to rest. You aren't going to get different "constructive" criticism. It's time to build a bridge and get over it. They aren't jealous of you. Just because your wedding isn't their number one priority in life, doesn't make them jealous. It makes them human and they have their own lives to live.
You be a friend to them. Didn't you write in a post that friendship should be a 2 way street? It sounds to me that you are stuck on the "ME ME ME" circle!
This is going to sound snarky...but I really don't know how else to phrase it. So I am just going to be blunt about it.
YOU BLEW THEM OFF!
This is the same exact issue that you posted about 2 months ago see post: http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/completely-alone! Really it's time to put this issue to rest. You aren't going to get different "constructive" criticism. It's time to build a bridge and get over it. They aren't jealous of you. Just because your wedding isn't their number one priority in life, doesn't make them jealous. It makes them human and they have their own lives to live.
You be a friend to them. Didn't you write in a post that friendship should be a 2 way street? It sounds to me that you are stuck on the "ME ME ME" circle!
Wow! I feel sorry for your friends. Its not all about you. They have lives to lead too. And honestly, if you had blown me off a bunch, I wouldn't care if you came out with us or not. Sounds to me like they tried pretty hard to do something very nice for you and now you are whining because, after you blew them off, they have decided not to throw a party for you. Yep sounds like jealousy to me (insert sarcasim).
Again I want to reminde you ,, your husband to be is your best friend! He is the only one that realy matters in the long run sounds like this impression you have of everyone else is your own insacuritys about yourself. You need some help from a pro. all comments previous seem like you sounds like your being a brat ,, no fair everyone is jelious wha wha wha me me me not cute ... your in for a rude awakining when you have children!
ITA with you here Baileyh--->Just because people arent crawling on the ground to please you cause you are now a fiance to someone doesnt mean they are jealous. The world is still revolving wether you are getting married or not.
ok bees, I get your point... I didn't create this thread to get further analyzed and judged, all I was looking for was some constructive criticism and not an entire backlog of everything I've ever written on this board!
Hi,
Just wanted to let you know, I don't think you are a bad friend...I don't think you need to have that feeling hanging over your head when most likely you are not a bad friend. I too am engaged and at one time or another have thought people don't care. Just recently, over 11 girls backed out of my bachelorette party. However, what you have to realize is like one post said, people still have their own lives going on, boyfriend troubles, kids, etc. While I'm sure your friends are happy for you, a friendship requires effort on both parts, whether your the engaged one or not. In defense of your friends, maybe they're wondering why you didn't want an engagement party and also have hurt feelings? The best thing to do, would be to try and reconnect w/ them (plan a happy hour, invite them to dinner) and see who comes? Also, maybe ask a couple girls to go look at dresses or something else. (even if they aren't in wedding party) maybe apologize for blowing them off and explain you were very overwhelmed etc. If they still are stand offish, then just give them space and let fate decide. I hope this helps. It's not that no one cares, trust me. And the MOST important people do care like YOU, YOUR FIANCE, PARENTS etc. Those are the most important!!!
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Ever since I've got engaged I've been really busy wedding planning and doing more family activities than hanging out with my close group of friends. They offered to throw me an engagement celebration (just us girls) and I kept blowing them off partly because I was so busy at the time and partly because I was kind of mad at them for other group drama (you know how clique girl groups can get). Now I'm ready for one and their bf's have all broken up with them and are in the I hate men phase... so i guess that's not happening!
To make matters worst it doesn't even seem like they care that I can't come out to stuff as much anymore. They just say "oh no worries, we will plan other things" would it kill them to actually tell me that they miss me or seem sad that I can't come! Like really, only one has offered to help with wedding planning (pretty much the only girl left that's in a relationship) and I've turned her down because I didn't want to give her the wrong impression that if I accept her help I will be making her a bridesmaid (because I might not).
Sometimes I feel like they are jealous of my engagement and there's just all this negative energy around me coming from all angles! I feel so alone in a time that I should be feeling the most loved. How do I get over this... they've even said to me that we are in such different stages in our lives... i.e. I'm the married one and their the party girls. Its like I just can't relate anymore. Should I drop these girls, let these friendships fade slowly, find new friends? Problem is I can't fade away too fast because I may be putting a couple in my bridal party. What to do?