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    ... and I only really post in the Babies board these days anyway, but the Hive has always been a good source of support for me, so hopefully no one will hold it against me if I just let it out here...

     

    My brother Will died on October 8, 2009.  At least, we think he did.  That was the day he disappeared after leaving a Bruins game at the TD Garden in Boston during the first half.  He was on the phone with his girlfriend, Claire, who was in her car to pick him up.  Claire was in front of the Garden and asked him for the address of his location.  He gave it to her and she entered it into her GPS, then his cell phone's battery died.  She arrived at the address about two minutes later, and he was nowhere to be found.

     

    My mom and I drove to Boston two days later, where we did interviews with detectives.  We had to identify him on surveillance video, where he was seen pacing outside the exit.  He wandered off camera at some point and didn't return to the area.  We spent an entire day doing back to back press interviews... we were even on Good Morning America.

     

    Six days after he disappeared his body was found in the Charles River about a mile from the Garden.  The sound of the knock at our hotel room door and the lieutenant's voice telling my mother that they'd "found Will.. deceased.." followed by the sound of my mother screaming will be forever burned into my memory

    This is a good summary of everything that happened:

    http://footprintsattheriversedge.blogspot.com/2009/10/10809-william-hurley-boston-ma.html

    (We still don't know what happened.  The cause/manner of death have not been determined.  We don't even know if he died on October 8 or after that date.  We don't know how long he was in the water.)

    Planning his funeral was awful.  It had to be closed casket, which was devastating to my mother, and the insensitive funeral director suggested that if she didn't believe his advice, she could take a look at the body.  To save her the grief, my DH went in.  He still won't talk to me about what he saw, but he was pale and crying when he came out of the room.

    Ever since the funeral I've been living in a perpetual state of denial because facing the emotions is too horrible.  Every time I try to dip a toe into really grieving I retreat because the pain and guilt is unbearable.  I have such guilt.  I was so angry at Will before he died because he made some unwise choices in the year preceding his death that lead to him not attending my wedding.  Even saying that is so hard that I'm weeping.  

    I have no one I can talk to about this.  My DH is great, but I've talked about it so much with him that I can sense that he is weary of hearing me go over the same things over and over.  When I mention Will's name around friends their faces immediately change as if to say "Let's not go there."  I have this feeling that everyone wants me to get over it so that it won't be so uncomfortable for them any more. I don't know how to get over it, though.  I can't face the pain of grieving alone.

    Whew, thanks for reading if you're still here.  I realize that I probably need to see a grief counselor or something.  I'm not really looking for any advice, I just needed to let that all off my chest.  Here is a picture of Will 3 weeks before he died, with his beloved cat.

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    Rosie Girl    September 18, 2010   Montana

    I am so sorry. That is so hard and sad and horrible. I am glad that you feel that you can tell all of us, because we are here for you and we do care.

     
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    Ms Mini    July 17, 2010   Medicine Hat, AB

    Firstly, I am very sorry about the loss of Will.

    I don't know if you can access this through insurance, but it might be helpful to talk to a counsellor, my mom is a counsellor and does a lot of grief counselling (mostly she just listens, hands tissues, makes suggestions etc when pertinent). Also the Boston police department might have a victims assistance program they can get you in touch with, which is to help people impacted by violence (you don't have to have been the physical victim to qualify usually), I know many of the victims assistance programs here offer telephone consultation.

     
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    sloth    May 14, 2011   Philadelphia, PA

    Words can't even express how sorry I am for you and your family. That's just heartbreaking.

    I know you're not looking for advice, but I'd recommend that you see a therapist. At the very least, it will be an objective person to listen to, and just getting things out is SO cathartic. And maybe they can help you.

     
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    Neato anedo    August 2011  

    I am so sorry to read about your heartbreak :(

    I do not have a lot of advice to give on a subject like this, but you are right, you should see a grief counselor to talk about your feelings. Hiding powerful emotions like these away can affect many aspects of your life -- it can drive wedges between you and your spouse, friends, and family. If it leads to depression it can make every part of your life difficult and sad. I experienced similar grief as a child and refused to address it with anyone. As a consequence, I suffered from depression for at least 5 years. It really affects the person you are, and it will never go away until you can learn to come to terms with your grief and find a way to be okay again.

    I wish you luck in finding peace.

     
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    I am SO sorry... I don't know what else to say. :(

     
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    mrskesslertobe    September 18, 2010  

    I am so sorry for your loss. I actually remember this news story. I can't even imagine the pain you and your family are going through. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

     
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    asunw    June 10, 2011   Southern Illinois

    I'm so sorry for you and your loved ones.

     
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    Helstrong    April 9, 2011   Overland Park, KS

    My thoughts and prayers are with you, and your family as well. I hope that in someway, somewere, somehow you find some resolution and peace that you deserve.  It'll be a long road, but you'll get there.  ((hugs))

     
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    Bella13    May 13, 2009   Honolulu, Hawaii

    This seriously made me cry. I can't even imagine having to deal with something like that... I'm sorry girl :(

     
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    JuneBride_26June2010    June 26, 2010   Indiana (legally married 13-Apr-2009)

    wow. i don't know what to say. not sure if it'll help but (((HUGS))) to you. like you (and others) have said you really should see a grief counselor. If there's one thing I've learned in 30 years, until you mourn and let your grief out of your body/mind it will eat you up inside.

    I truly wish you all the love in the world and my deepest sympathies.

     
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    spaniel    March 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    I am so, so sorry. I can't even imagine how badly that must hurt.

     
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    BeachFanatic    10-2-10   New Jersey

    oh wow, i remember reading about your brother in the news and tearing up at work. I could not even imagine. My heart breaks for your family and for your brother's gf. 

    Definitely go and talk to someone, maybe it would help to go with your DH as well.

     

    ::::HUUUUUGS::::

     
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    Minutiae    May 2011  

    ...I have no words. I wish I could give you a hug. Cry

     
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    northernazbride    August 1, 2009   Arizona

    I am so sorry... I know there is nothing that anyone can say or do to make the pain stop. You and your family are in my thoughts. ((hugs))

     
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    *hugs*

    i dont know what this is like. but i will be praying for you and your family.

     
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    WeeBirdy    June 24, 2010  

    I'm so very sorry.  Just reading this was heartbreaking, so I can't begin to imagine what you and your family have been going through.  I agree about the couseling--just having someone else to listen to face to face could help, especially since it sounds like it's been hard to talk to your friends and family recently.  Take care of yourself, and please feel free to vent here whenever.  We'll all be thinking of you!

     
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    oyster    July 2010   Dallas

    That is such a sweet picture of him with the little cat. :)

    I'm so sorry you have to go through this. What a nightmare. I've lost a lot of people; I remember the shock of grief and the "haze" afterwards. I especially remember how hard it was to talk to anyone (when I said my father had been killed, one person said, "Oh." And he never said anything else!). My friends were much like yours; I think people just don't know how to handle the grieving.

    It's a blessing that your DH is so supportive. I'm sorry; I know you don't want any advice... but I do second the recommendations to find a counselor or something to talk to; having an objective person to talk to can be very freeing, and they can offer a different perspective and help you see your way through all the pain, and it can seem less unbearable.

     
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    Mrs. DG    July 18, 2009   Seattle/Tahoe

    I have tears in my eyes now.  I'm so sorry that this happened to you and your family.  I don't know that anything I can say or do will make you feel better, but know that I feel for you and am honoring your brother's memory tonight.

    Hugs.

     
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    Puggy    November 27, 2010   Southern Indiana/Northwest Florida

    Please know that you and your family have my deepest sympathy, and you are in my thoughts and prayers. 

    I agree that if you are able to get outside help, please try and find a counselor. But, if that isn't possible, or you just aren't comfortable, please know that there are people here who are always willing to listen.

     
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    lilyfaith    June 23, 2012   Lakeview, Chicago

    I can't even describe to you how sorry I am. I know the other Bees will agree when I say you can vent and grieve here anytime you need to. 

    Having been on the listening end of a similar situation, I urge you to talk to your husband more. My guess is the look in his eyes is not that he's heard it all before, but that he hates seeing you in pain. I'm sure it would be really hard for him to hear that you don't want to burden him. Isn't that one of the best things about marriage? That you have someone who is there for you in the most intimate way? 

    I'll be thinking of you, and hoping you can find a way to grieve that is right for you. I know it will be overwhelming and hard to handle, but you're stronger than you give yourself credit for. 

     
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    ladyox    May 16, 2010  

    I am so sorry for your loss.  Please talk to someone.  I waited 14 years after the death of my father to speak to a professional about it (finally went at the urging of my fiance).  The insight gained in ONE session with a professional therapist helped me immensely, I wish I had done it years ago, I could have saved myself and those around me so much anguish.  Nothing is going to take away the pain of losing your brother, but talking to someone can give you the skills to cope with it and find some peace. 

     
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    mouse    September 11, 2009   Austin, TX

    I'm so sorry.  I don't really have advice for you, but I can relate a little.  The only person I could really talk to about my dad dying was my husband (then fiance).  It made most other people uncomfortable--I know exactly what you mean by that look they get on their face when you bring it up. 

    Maybe you should see a grief counselor.  Or if you're religious at all, talk to a priest or whatever.  Just someone that will listen to you and help you figure out what you need to do to properly grieve for your brother. 

     
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    I'm so sorry.

    Something kind of similar happened to my dad in 2002. He went for a walk on the beach (so they say) and somehow died. We don't know how. Did he black out and hit his head? Did someone hit him in the head with something? We just don't know. I never talk about it and so writing it makes me cry. I really just wish I knew what happened.

    But I am so, so sorry. Nothing like this should ever happen!

     
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    amariem25    October 2009  

    There are groups for grief support.  My 20 year old cousin lost her dad 2 years ago and I know she goes to a group where there are other people who lost family members.  I think it has helped her a lot.  Maybe you should look into something like that.

     
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    Thanks for the words of encouragement ladies.  I'm feeling much better this morning.  There is a support group that I'd like to go to, but I'm not sure if I feel comfortable going with my baby... and DH doesn't get home from school until after it starts.  So I'm looking for alternatives.

     
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    Miss Chocolate    July 24, 2010   Texas... Married in California

    (((HUGS)))

    I'm so sorry for your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family <3

     
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    jhphi    January 1, 2008  

    I'm so sorry, amandopolis.  I have two brothers, and I know if I lost one of them, the pain would be absolutely unbearable.  I hope you find a grief support group that you like-- I know it's difficult to talk to friends about this sort of stuff because often they want to "help" when all you really need is for someone to listen and comfort you, etc. 

     
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    allisonc    October 9, 2010   Boston, MA, wedding in Middletown, CT

    I remember this happening - I cannot imagine what it was like actually living through it. I am so sorry for your loss. I hope in some way it comforts you to know that we are all hear to listen and support you if need be. Sending *hugs* your way...

     
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    I too am incredibly sorry for your loss. It seems like there are a lot of really big loose ends surrounding his disappearance and death, so it makes sense that it would be hard to work through! I think speaking with a grief counselor is a really good idea on your part; someone who is trained to listen, be supportive and help you work through everything you're feeling (sadness, confusion, anger, etc.) in a healthy way. I encourage you to talk to your husband as well - maybe he can help you find a grief counselor, or even go to to a few sessions with you so you'd be more comfortable talking.

     
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    otb    December 31, 2009   Chicago, IL

    I am so so sorry for your loss.  I can't imagine the pain you are going through.  I think you are right that you should see a grief counselor.  From my experience it really, really helps talking with someone who has a totally objective viewpoint.  That and your grief counselor will welcome you talking about your pain and your guilt.  They will really help you to move past that.  I have been to a grief counselor so I know what it's like when you can hardly bare to mention the persons name.  PM me if you want some more info.

     
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    Melissabegins    December 12, 2009  

    i second the therapist / counseling.. i think that just having an open forum to talk as long as you want about it will help. you'll probably uncover a few things that you didn't realize you felt/thought, which might help you down the road to recovery. We are with you - good luck! It is such a tragedy, but your family can rebuild for sure.

     
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    eeh2010    October 16, 2010   Kansas

    Wow! So sorry for your loss. The death of a loved one is always hard, but it's especially hard when it was completely unexpected and came  after a season of bitterness and hard feelings. I hope you find a way for you to deal with your grief. I know that's easier said than done.

     
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    Mrs. Spring    May 10, 2009   California

    Hey, amandopolis, I just want to chime in with my support.  I'm so sorry for your loss, and the entire circumstances, and I hope you can find a way to work through your grief.  Is it possible to leave Norah with a friend or relative on those nights the grief group meets?  I really hope you can find an outlet for your feelings.  In the meantime, I'll be thinking about you and praying for you and your family.

     
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    Miss Chapstick    September 2009  

    I'm just so, so incredibly sorry. Even just thinking about losing my sister, and in such a mysterious and stressful way, makes me sick to my stomach. You're incredibly strong for keeping it together, especially with a newborn. I really admire your strength just for writing this and getting it out there (sometimes that helps, too).

     
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    MrsK2be    November 15, 2008   Ohio

    I wanted to respond immediately upon reading your message here.  I am crying for you as I write.  This is unimaginable to me  - and i wish I could help you deal with this pain.

    Mostly, I wanted to write to thank you for sharing your story.  Your story has resonated so deeply with me.  I have been very angry with my (twin) brother (and only sibling) lately.  He had a child with his girlfriend and when they got pregnant there was NO judgment - on the contrary, my entire family was thrilled.  Then, in the middle of her pregnancy he left her.   She lives 2 hours away from him and he never sees her.  My niece is 2.5 years old now and the last time he saw her was the day she was born. It has caused incredible heartache and anger for myself and my parents.  I haven't been able to let go of my anger toward him.  I didn't speak to him for about a year.  

    AFter reading your post, I am inspired to put my anger behind me and treat him with the love I have for him.  I want him to always know that I love him no matter what.

    Thank you for the wake up call.  I am so sorry for your loss.  I just wanted you to know that your story has touched a life and made a difference.

     
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    eeniebeans    October 9, 2010   Baltimore

    I'm so glad you felt comfortable enough to share this with us.  I hope that just getting it out gives you a little more peace.  I echo everyone's advice about therapy- it can help so much.  An unbiased and fresh ear can be so important in giving you real perspective on things.  Good luck.

     
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    Headuh    April 10, 2010   New Hampshire

    I live in NH and saw this on the news. My prayers were with your family then and still are now.

     
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    karina85    July 11, 2010  

    That is terrible. I will be praying for your brother and your family.

     
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    MrsKtobe-- Thanks so much for your response.  Knowing that even one good thing came out of Will's death does brighten my day.  I hope you can rebuild your relationship with your brother.  I will always wish I'd had more time.

     

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