(Closed) Hearts & Arrows?

posted 5 years ago in Rings
Post # 3
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: December 2010

Looks like H&A to me! I could be wrong though. We will see what the other bees say who know exactly what to look for.

Post # 4
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: June 2014

I think it means the cut/facets are perfectly symmetrical? Eight hearts, eight arrows? I’m not sure if each facet is supposed to be exactly the same size as well. Mine has it, but I only know because it’s listed on my diamond’s certification along with the rest of it’s notes/stats. I remember reading only 1% of the world’s diamonds are H&A, but I’m not sure if that’s true.

Post # 5
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Bee Keeper

Those are indeed “arrows.” You will also find you have “hearts” on the other side of your diamond, but these are hard to see without a scope (explained below) even with a loose stone.

H&A is a brand name that certifies that its diamonds will have a particularly well-cut hearts-and-arrows pattern (so from my perspective it is part-gimmick, part-substance). There are equally well-cut diamonds that don’t have the H&A brand-name that would, if H&A were able to get their hands on them, but not being owned by H&A, they don’t get to be called that. There are more of these than there are their identical twins who are owned by H&A and get the brand name “stamp,” though they are still rare. Yours might be one of them, but I can’t tell, from this information.

Many round brilliant diamonds have discernable arrow patterns. You can see arrow patterns on diamonds that wouldn’t necessarily meet the H&A criteria (for example you can see them on “very good” GIA cut grades, and maybe even lower cut grades), but of course you will definitely see them on H&A branded diamonds and other diamonds that have specs that would qualify them for the H&A brand.

To get a rough idea of whether yours might be as well-cut as an “H&A” brand diamond (or even better!), note your cut grade on your diamond’s cert: it should be the highest the grader will give, i.e., GIA triple-ex or AGS triple-zero.

If it meets that criteria you can already have a lot of confidence that your diamond cut is very beautiful indeed. Next check its HCA score, on the online HCA calculator. It should be less than 2.

Got a top grade cut diamond with an HCA score less than 2? You have a fantastic cut of diamond that sparkles as well or better than most H&A branded diamonds. Would yours get the H&A “stamp” if H&A would own that diamond? Very likely, but if you want to guarantee it, one final thing has to be done:

Get an idealscope/firescope/[fill-in-the-blank-brand]scope (like $20 on ebay) and check out the light return images produced by the diamond within the scope. You’ll find websites that will tell you what an H&A cut’s light return will look like, and what other light return images correspond to.

Of course, if you didn’t buy your diamond from H&A brand, it’s not an H&A brand diamond. Then again, if you’ve got a diamond that’s at the highest cut grade from GIA or AGS and and HCA score of less than 2? Who the heck cares! You have one of the most well-cut diamonds out there in existence, easily matching and exceeding some H&As for their cut’s beauty.

Hope this helps!

Post # 7
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: February 1997

It is next to impossible to see hearts in a set diamond. But as was already mentioned, with an AGS 000 or a GIA XXX that rates under a 2 on the HCA (despite recieving an excellent cut rating, not all GIA XXX diamonds do), you can be sure you have an excellently cut diamond that will rival any branded cut. “Hearts and Arrows” is a gimmick as a brand, as the best cut diamonds will display the pattern regardless of what they are called. 

And by the way, that is a really cool photo! I am a terrible photographer, so I rarely get amazing photos like that!

Post # 8
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Sugar bee

Hearts and Arrows 0.51 GVS1 on a size 5.5 finger.

Often, well cut diamonds have a H&A pattern but H&A isn’t a guarantee of a well cut diamond.  You might want to couple it with certification from AGS or GIA to say that it is an excellent cut.  Even so, well cut diamonds look different from each other.  This is because diamonds are like kaleidoscopes.  A tiny change in facet angle can result in a noticeable change in the sparkle pattern.  Make sure that you like the diamond before you buy it.

Post # 9
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: May 2013 - Pavilion overlooking golf course scenery, reception at banquet hall

@joya_aspera:  are you sure H&A is a brand? I think you are thinking of Hearts on Fire, which I’ve heard they’ve had, like, independent scientific studies to show that their cuts really are superior to other “ideal” cuts like Leo and Forevermark.

H&A details describing it simply as cut perfection: 

http://www.goodoldgold.com/4Cs/Shape/RoundHeartsAndArrows/

My stone is an H&A but I’ve never been able to capture the arrows in a photo. But my AGS certificate says it is one, and “H&A” is laser inscribed on the girdle along with its AGS serial number.

Post # 10
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: December 2013

I do! The hearts & arrows are hard to capture in a cell phone pic!

Post # 11
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: October 2014

Heart and Arrow are not a brand…, it’s a specific cut

My e-ring is a 3ex, F color, 1.02 but when I stand next to my friend’s 1.25 H&A, hers has a lot more fire than mine.  Not sure would that due to H&A or simply her diamond is better? 

 

See below link for explanation.   

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearts_and_arrows

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