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<font size="3"><font color="#000000"><font face="Times New Roman">My bf and I are looking around for rings now and although I have had a lifetime of priming to expect a diamond for my engagement ring, I find myself seriously thinking about moissanite. It’s a beautiful stone and the only negative thing I could think of was that it had a faint yellowish color when sat next to a colorless stone (but how often will that happen on your ring finger right?). Also it is SO much cheaper and now that I’ve gone back to school and money is tight, a cheaper ring would mean more money towards the wedding etc which is great! So now my only problem is this:
I would have NO problem with a moissanite ring at all but I don’t feel I can tell my family & friends that it isn’t a diamond. They would view it as a 'fake' diamond (even though it’s not) which connotates cheapness and I don’t even want to think of what that may imply about their thoughts on my bf. But I just don’t want to lie either. Have any of you moissanite engagement ring owners ever felt this way and how did you deal?</font></font></font>
While my ring isn't moissanite, it is a red spinel. Most people think that it is a ruby, and I generally don't bother correcting them.
My sister's ring is moissanite. She only told myself and my mom that it wasn't real. There's no reason that anyone should ask, right? (Unless it looks too larger for your budget I guess...)
I know nothing about the stone but read this link which discusses the trouble with moissanite
I have several girlfriends who have moissanite rings and earrings, and I have to say that the stones just look foggy to me. Like really poor quality diamonds with a lot of inclusions. There are other laboratory grown diamonds that are generally acknowledged to be better quality than moissanite, and in fact FI and I looked at a couple of yellow laboratory diamonds. If you go to an actual diamond broker, they can generally order laboratory stones for you to compare, and I would really suggest you do that.
Personally, if I didn't want to spend the money on a diamond, I would go with a nice quality sapphire for the center stone. You can get a lot more stone for your money, and it is a fairly hard stone so appropriate for everyday wear. You might also consider that a small diamond is something that you can trade up later, when money isn't such a concern.
You should really get what makes you (and your FI) happy. If that is moissanite, there's no problem with that. But I would suggest that if you feel you have to lie to people about what is in your ring, you probably really aren't happy with it. Especially I think you shouldn't feel like you have to lie to your family. Whatever you decide, also decide to be proud of your decision!
I had researched into alternatives and while labs like Gemesis and Apollo Diamonds offer cultured diamonds that have the same chemical and structural make up as a mined diamond, Diamond Nexus actually is a synthetic (not the same chemical or structural makeup). Which doesn't necessarily bother me except for the fact that I have heard a lot of disconcerting stuff about those stones losing their color or 'fading' and that unlike a cultured diamond or moissanite, they are not as hard or durable as diamonds. However cultured diamonds are only really sold in fancy colors (blue, pink and yellow which I don't want) and Apollo Diamonds which is the only one creating colorless ones, always seems to have an enormous waiting list.
I first saw a moissanite at a jewellery store (Helzberg) and it was sat next to a diamond. I think you can get moissanites of different quality and the one I saw was an equivalant to a VS2, 'I' color and except for the fact that it wasn't colorless, I couldn't find anything to complain about. I didn't see any cloudiness but I will try to take another look to try to see it.
AAAHHH so confused!
PS Suzanno, I don't think I mentioned moissanite as a lab grown diamond. What I do know of it, is that it is a mineral that was originally found in meteors but in a very small quantity and is now being grown in labs. I've been told it's a gem in it's own right and not a fake diamond per say. Kind of like setting a sapphire or an amethyst in your ring instead of a diamond. Which is why I'm questinging all this hoopla about a diamond in the first place I guess.
However, Gemesis and Apollo are two companies who do grow actual diamonds in a lab setting.
I wonder if they get cloudy over time? I have one girlfriend (and she and her hubby have plenty of money) who has moissanite everything, and he just bought her a moissanite past, present, and future ring. And while of course we say how fabulous it is, FI and I both think that they look like really poor quality, foggy diamonds. They just don't seem to actually throw light the way a diamond does. Even the new ring is this way. She loves them though - and tells everyone they are moissanite - and of course what is important is that she is happy with them. So once again, its really a personal choice, and whatever makes you happy is the right choice! I am sure she loves her moissanite just as much as I love my diamond, and for sure she has a lot more of it!
I think Moissanite may be a feasible alternative, but i'm not quite sure if you would be happy with the result years down the road. Since you may still have a foggy look or slight color discoloration even with someof the best moissanite, that might be some of the things you might want to consider when thinking about your stone. I agree with Suzanno that when i see moissanite, it looks like not as good quality diamond.
i have heard of folks getting their ring with a cubic zirconia center stone, and upgrading a year or so late when they are able to more financially afford it. Case in point- Tacori rings, where the setting is fan-ta-stic, but some of the settings alone are quite pricey- the couple was able to get the setting she wanted, and a year later when they had more cash flow, they replaced her center stone with a diamond.
another alternative is white sapphire? and if you are looking for diamond alternatives, i think this can definietly hold its own.
http://www.mineralminers.com/html/swhgems.stm
http://www.simplysapphires.com/html/whitediamond.html
http://www.simplysapphires.com/html/whiteinfo.html
good luck!
nkang - I LOVE Tacori settings - they're my favorite! And you're right on the money - my bf and I are in a situation right now that we could get the diamond of my dreams, but it would mean putting off the wedding for a long while, not to mention taking longer to put together a downpayment for a house etc. And despite all this it would still be ok but we went from two incomes to one when I went back to school. So we've really been toying with the idea of getting something like a moissanite now and then upgrading in a few years once I'm out of med school, we've paid for our wedding and are feeling comfortable with money again.
if cost is part of the issue, here's another option: for less money, you can get amazing vintage/antique jewelry-- my ring is an antique circa 1930, platinum with a .8 carat diamond, and was far less than the same ring would be new. i wanted an antique ring before i knew the price bonus- so unique and gorgeous.
your also more likely to find antique rings with unique stones (saphires used to be very popular in engagement rings).
more on my ring and a photo here:
If you are going to go with something like moissanite now, and upgrade later (for what are really sound financial reasons - your friends and family should be proud) I would totally tell anyone who asks, and not feel like you have to pretend its a diamond. And not everyone will ask - and you don't have to feel lik you need to walk around wearing a sign that says It's Moissanite!! If nothing else, it will give your family something else to ask about besides when you are going to gie them grandchildren!
I do just want to mention, for people who love Tacori- they have a line of Diamonique on QVC with their settings- very affordable and gorgeous! :)
It is your day and your ring and you should have whatever you want!
Debt is never a good thing....it seems like it makes more sense to live within your means than to be paying down debts forever. Also, I would say that it comes down to what matters most to you and your FI; do you want a larger ring or do you want to pay for the wedding debt free, put a downpayment on a home, etc.?
My FI currently has all of his cash tied up in his house, which he will sell shortly before we get married and move into mine. We decided to get my band first (it is platinum, channel set with alternating diamonds and sapphires) and he will give me a larger ring for our wedding. That way, I can have what I want and he doesn't have to get into any debt to pay for it(neither of us currently have debt aside from our homes). It's also a bonus that I get a fun surprise on our wedding day!
Another option, if you don't want moissanite, is to purchase your ring at a jeweler who has a program where you can upgrade your ring later(by trading in your original smaller stone).
You asked a question about how does anyone feel who owns moissanite, and that you don't want to lie to your family claiming it's a diamond, and your scared if you tell them it's not a diamond they will think of your FI as a cheapskate ,I just want to say that you are the one getting married. Period. I think it's very sad how the notion of "it has to be a diamond" is so much ingrained in our brains. If you want a Moissanite then get one. I even notice with some of the above comments, people are posting a bunch of negatives about moissanite ( it's cloudy, it has yellow tinge to it, it looks like a cheap diamond) trying to sway you to buy a diamond( buy a vintage ring, get a .8 diamond) this still shows how you have to have a diamond is still ingrained!!! Moissanite is a gemstone in its own right, stop comparing it to a diamond
The OP didn't ask what's the cons of a moissanite are, she asked if anyone who owns moissanite ever had trouble having to tell there family it's real, and is torn between buying a diamond, and not having money to pay for the wedding, or buying moissanite and still able to afford a wedding, and possible a house down the road. Now that I'm done ranting on to answering the question.
I have been where you have been PhillyMedGirl, I don't have moissanite but I have 2 rings a White sapphire, and a Aquamarine. When My mother saw my engagement ring she went wild, saying my DH did so well!!! When I told her it was a white sapphire the happy dance immediatly stopped, and started in with the dreaded discussion. I told her this shouldn't come as a surprise because she knew I didn't want a diamond. Not because I didn't like diamonds, but just like you I was thinking ahead about where that extra cash could go to benifit me and my DH down the road. So my advice is do whats best for you and your FI. Who knows they might be pissed, so what. It's ultimately you and your FI decision, and that's what matters.
GoodLuck, and I hope I've answered your question:)
My ring is moisannite and no one can tell it's not diamonds. Everyone comments on how much it sparkles and how pretty it is. Mine it's yellow and has no inclusions. Just like a diamond, if you buy a better quality moissanite, it looks better than a lower quality one. I LOVE my moissanite and will never buy diamonds.
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girls... Can we please look at how old a thread is before bringing it back up? This was posted two years ago. The OP is no longer even on the boards.
ACTUALLY...I don't think it's always a bad thing when oooold threads are bumped. The information is often still relevant. It's funny because I just a few days ago started to consider purchasing a Moissanite ring, had seen this thread after searching the bee for Moissanite, and was a bit discouraged by the posters' responses...they weren't similar to my own opinions o the stone. And then lo and behold, two days later the poster bumps the thread with some positive words. I appreciated it! If she had just randomly started a "Don't hate on Moissanite!" thread, that would have been, well, weird.
I agree with *VeganGlam* on this one... It's not so bad when older posts get bumped.
I think there is a lot of helpful and relevant information and view points that could be helpful to current bees.
Don't be a hater *LittleMissMango*!
I've seen moissanite next to a real diamond and I thought it was even more beautiful than the diamond! In it's own right, moissonite is a very pretty gem. Makes you wonder what all the hype is about diamonds in the first place. I have heard all the disturbing DeBeers cartel stuff and I am happy that there are alternatives out there!
It's not that I don't think the information or opinions aren't still relevant. The member who brought it up was directly speaking to the OP...from two years ago, as well as borderline arguing with other posters from that time. That is why I thought it needed to be brought to their attention. If they wanted to start a new discussion about moissanite or non-traditional e-ring stones (although, there have been several in more recent times, as I recall), I don't think that would have been weird at all. There's also nothing wrong with searching through archives for more info about certain topics. I just think most of us would rather see more current threads being discussed or new ones started, with people who are still members of the Bee, is all.
Well as you see, current members have commented on this thread, and if we wanted to continue the discussion about Moissanite, we could just respond to this thread. Frankly I think it's a better idea to have a condensed post than a slew of Moissanite threads like this all over the bee.
I think it's a valuable thing that an old thread can be revived! I don't find it annoying at all, especially because it means that the latest poster took the time to research her topic instead of starting new threads willy nilly. @Veganglam, are you still considering a moissy for your ring?
My ring isn't real either. The only person that knows is my mom. My wedding band has real diamonds in it, so I'll be wearing that after the ceremony. I have decided that I really like some of the alternative stones out there.
If you are going to have something that isn't a diamond, go bold. There is a thread that was just around yesterday, showing off girls rings, I'll see if I can find and bump it for you. There were some beautiful saphires, rubies, amethyst... it's a cheaper route, plus you wont' have to worry about the awkward "not real" conversation... I know that Miss Sicssors has a beautiful moonstone ring (I covet that ring Sicissors!!!)
Good luck. I'll try to find that thread for you!
We just bought a moissanite solitaire ring (2ct/7.5mm) from Moissanite Co. I was very impressed with their responsiveness through both email and live help. After reading in some forum about the "enhanced" moissanite, I realized this would satisfy my need for the sparkle without having to accept the history of the diamond industry.
I've read a couple of books about diamonds and I do have an issue with them from an ethical standpoint and cost standpoint. My fiancé was ready to pay several thousands of dollars for my ring but I stopped him! I realized that I will wear the solitaire during the engagement period, but that once we have my wedding ring finished, I will be much more likely to wear that on a every day basis.
If you have some time and are interested in reading about what's wrong with the diamond industry and how a certain company snowed the world, especially the US, into believing that we MUST have one of these things, I recommend reading: Diamond: The History of a Cold-Blooded Love Affair
A summary and strong opinion of choosing moissanite over a real diamond can also be found here: http://diamondssuck.com - he refers to an Atlantic Monthly article I haven't had a chance to read yet on the pricing of diamonds: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1982/02/have-you-ever-tried-to-sell-a-diamond/4575/
I decided against a CZ due to the wear/cloudy issues, and I opted for the "enhanced moissanite" which removes the color tint (green/yellow) issues. Even though I chose a round brilliant, I didn't want to take a chance.
I will report back after I receive the ring with my thoughts and a photo. We need to use our heads when buying this stuff and from everything I've read, enhanced moissanite can be a substantial alternative for someone looking for a colorless, sparkly stone.
Update on my moissanite ring order from Moissanite & Co: I received the ring faster than anticipated (3 days before I requested with a rush order) and I was really wowed!
Earlier last week I tried on a variety of diamond rings, including a $100K round brilliant Tiffany (yikes). I hadn't tried on a lot of rings yet and wanted to become more familiar with what 2ct diamonds looked like on my hand.
My fiancé and I were really impressed with the quality and fire of the moissanite. Unfortunately I had to return my ring to have the ring re-sized - I mis-sized my ring finger and ordered it one size too big. The company was seriously fantastic to deal with on the return, with the same type of responsiveness and detail I received prior to our purchase.
When I receive the new ring, I will post photos. The color, size, and fire of the moissanite was amazing, I can't wait to get my ring back and wear it every day!
I like old threads if they are interesting topics... I think this is a relevant topic to today, and an interesting one!
Hey ladies! I just created an account because I just HAVE to get in on these moissanite/diamond/Asha/CZ, etc. e-ring discussions! I have decided that I do not want a diamond e-ring for ethical and environmental reasons, as well as the fact that I can have something sparkle-tastic without spending the down payment on my future home ;)...
That said, I think that there a few things to keep in mind:
Some people prefer gemstones, even diamonds, with a non-colorless look. One person's beautiful flawless white diamond may look ridiculously boring or ugly to another... So moissy may be a great option, for example, as an alternative to a J or K diamond.
Also, I tend to be a skeptic lol...And I pay attention to how many posts members have. It sounds wrong, but if someone comes into a thread or forum and only has a few posts as a member, or REALLY seems to be pushing a company, I get suspicious... I think that most of us can tell the difference between those of us here who are really researching or happy with our purchases and gushing about them to our WB girlfriends, and those of us who may be overly-emphazing one company's customer service, policies, etc., especially in comparison to other companies.
Okay, enough with my mouthful lol. My FFI teases me and says that it takes me ten minutes to make a point that takes ten seconds
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As for the OP: I don't know where you are now or what you have, but I would've advised you to go with whatever made you happy. You can't please everyone all of the time, including family (unfortunately). Wear what YOU like, and wear it proudly!
@blurose262: I agree. I mean, I'm new to this site, but it's obvious when someone posts a bad review or bad thread and they only have 1 post.
Mossanite has gotten better over the years. I was in physical pain thinking about the cost of a diamond. I didn't want a diamond. I didn't want my future fiance spending thousands on a rock. Ugh.
I first came across mossanite on a diary website that I have belonged to for 10 years. There is a frontpage news section where one member had announced her engagement. I went to her diary to say congrats and look at ring porn. (I love engagement stories and the ring porn that follows it.)
The first thing she posted was a photo of the ring. OMG! It sparkled so much in the photo! I could only imagine what it looked like in person. I thought, wow that diamond must have cost a fortune! (We were looking at a 1ct Leo from Kays that was priced at $6500) and her's looked a lot bigger than 1ct.
So I read through the story and then at the bottom she described the ring. "It's a round brillant MOISSANITE" O_O What? Did she mean diamond? Then she went into the specs and what moissanite was. I was in love.
I found out that Helzberg Diamonds actually had moissanite in the store. So we went to go look. They only had three rings left, (I guess they were on clearence because that particular store was no longer going to stock them) 1 was a halo square design. The second was a halo round design, and the third was a round tiffany novo inspired design.
The sales woman was very very helpful. She placed the stones next to diamonds and the moissanite caught my eye everytime because it has more fire than a diamond. She said, "An engagment ring serves two purposes: to look pretty and to remind you that he wants to spend his life with you. That's it. It's not an investment. It's not a status symbol. (Surprising coming from a diamond sales person)
After that I read everything I could on Moissanite and have not found anything bad about them. So we are going to go with moissanite from moissaniteco.com
I'm so happy!
@Southern_Bride: "She said, "An engagment ring serves two purposes: to look pretty and to remind you that he wants to spend his life with you. That's it. It's not an investment. It's not a status symbol."
That is brilliant! So true!
I know that this is quite an old thread but the those bees who got their bling from moissaniteco did you get your's enhanced?? We are looking at a 6mm round and I'm unsure as to whether to get it enhance or not. How was the colour tinge on you e-rings that weren't enhanced?
@dreamingofbling: I have a 6.5 round solitaire purchased from MoissaniteCo. I did not have it enhanced for a few reasons. I had read in a few places that it voids the warranty from Charles and Colvard (the co that actually makes the gemstone) protecting against discoloration. I also read that anything 1 carat or under has decent clarity and doesn't really need enhancement. That being said, my stone reflects the weather, which I absolutely love. On rainy, cloudy days, it almost has this steely color to it. I do notice a faint yellow in certain lighting but no different than you see in certain diamonds (I am not familiar with all the color codes so bear with me). I actually may only see some yellowness because I am looking for it to be honest. But, in certain lighting it sparkles like nothing I've ever seen which I love. I love my moissy, love dealing with moissco and plan on purchasing my eternity ring from them. Hope my rambling on and on helps somehow! :)
I had already owned my ring for 6 months before I read about enhancement. It's true that my moissanite ring kind of pops the colors it is surrounded by-- sometimes a bit gray or faint faint blue/green. I don't mind either. It has more fire than any diamond I've ever seen, and I think if it was super white it might look too good to be true. Most days it looks quite white- and wait til you see your ring in certain lights, like restaurant and bar lights. Sparkle overload :)
@dreamingofbling:I have a moissanite e-ring. It's one carat round brilliant enhanced. I'm not sure what the people who siad that moissanite was cloudy were talking about--a friend of mine who didn't know it wasn't a diamond remarked on its "amazing clarity." It's so clear (when it's clean!) that you could almost count the facets.
If you're looking for something that will "fool" your parents (like I was, I wanted to make the right financial decision but they are old-fashioned, and I didn't want them to think less of FI), I think moissanite is a good choice. It usually looks quite convincing. There ARE some lights in which it looks odd--there are these recessed cam lights at my office that are like spotlights, and they make it look RIDICULOUSLY shiny, and it was pretty obvious under those that it wasn't a diamond. But in the sunlight, on most cloudy days, under flourescent lights and under most incandescents, it looks great and i love the sparkle. Here's a picture
@robbie: Finally uploading a couple of photos of the moissanite. I had it enhanced and I think it looked better when I first got it - now after having it reset by a local vendor, I'm not sure the enhancement has held. MoissaniteCo always mentions that you should have them reset it, but it wasn't feasible for me as I don't live in the same country, they didn't have the right bezel setting I wanted, and the shipping costs were getting stupid. Only occasionally am I sort of surprized at the fire and sparkle, and sometimes I think the color could look a little more white.
Overall I'm still happy with my moissanite. The first photo is in a bezel setting I had redone locally, and the second photo is of the original from MoissaniteCo in the prong setting. If I were to do it all again, I would have made the following decisions: 1) to just buy the enhanced stone from MoissaniteCo and have the setting done locally to begin with to have a better understanding of the setting and 2) I would have gone smaller. Yes, smaller. The 2 carat is a little too flashy with the bezel setting, since bezel does tend to make the overall stone look larger.
In a couple of years, the patent that Charles & Colvard has on moissanites will be up for grabs, and I am pretty sure that will mean we'll start seeing moissanite a lot more. It will be interesting to how the powers that be in the diamond industry react to that. I am still on the fence about diamonds personally, and own diamond stud earrings that were close to the total cost of my moissanite engagement ring when it was all said and done. Most recently, I've been intrigued by the OECs, or Old European Cut diamonds found in vintage collections. You can buy those loose online as well, they reflect light much differently than a brilliant, and you don't have to carry as much guilt around about participating in the marketign madness.
As for the photos, photo 1 is the bezel setting I had reset locally, and photo 2 is of the original "Tiffany" inspired prong setting from MoissaniteCo. I originally chose Palladium for the prong setting as I do have some random allergies and it appealed to me. The local jeweler could not reuse it, and we reset in white gold which I think is too soft and will get banged around a lot. I will likely reset again at some point in platinum, or go for changing the shiny appearance of the current gold setting to more of a brushed look. It's still a work in progress due to my general interest in jewelry design, but I'm very happy to wear this little sucker on my finger every day and think about the wise choice I made with the moissanite!
Thanks for updating with photos. I am currently trying to write a review about moissanite and this thread has been helpful. I have to agree with a previous poster, that although this thread is "old" it actually is VERY useful. When I was searching for information about moissanite and diamonds this thread came up in Google.
I will say although it has been clarified from posts above, moissanite is NOT a fake diamond. Tradition and media has "pushed" diamonds on us. If you want a sapphire, ruby, emerald, moissanite, or whatever engagement ring- go for it! I think it is rediculous to think "you have to have" a diamond engagement ring.
Moissanite is such a rare mineral, which is why it has to be made in a lab now. However, moissanite does exist in a natural form. It is only considered a substitute because people have been conditioned to think diamonds are the way to go. It could be viewed that diamonds are a substitute for moissanite since moissanite is a rare form. Hey, don't get me wrong, I love diamonds. However, from a educational standpoint, diamonds are "not that special". Do some research to see how diamonds are found and how diamonds are made into rings. Your opinions might change a bit.
What is special is WHO gives it to you. The media and tradition has pushed that diamonds are a girls bestfriend. Diamonds are not some unique, rare mineral.
For those of you think moissanite can be cloudy...well it is no different than diamonds being dull. It is about the quality you purchase.
Anyways, sorry for the ramble. Hope this helps
@robbie: Hi! Your ring looks great! Love the new setting! Before you change it to platinum, I would research and read about it. I have read that over time it gets a dull grey color rather than shiny. Also, the jeweler I went to recently told me that most of his customers that get platinum engagement rings often come back withtin a year to change it to 18k white gold. Either way, best of luck!! :)
I also have a moissanite and I LOVE it. I was looking for something that will "fool" others (I wanted to make the right financial decision but I didn't want them to think less of FI), and I think moissanite is a good choice for us. I got to work with Sharon @ Moissanite Bridal.com to come up with the design (2.32ct). She was GREAT to work with. 
I totally agree with you - I also own a round brilliant 1 ct. Moissy - and I was a woman who absolutely loved diamonds, and still do. In my life, I've owned several nice diamnods - one was almost a 1 1/2 ct. G VS - so I've had quality diamonds in the past. Having said all that -- if I had plenty of money, I'd go for the diamond. BUT -- I want to stress here that one reason I LOVE diamonds is for the fire, brillance, the bling. Otherwise, I would be as well served by a hunk of faceted glass in a setting - just a clear stone in other words. To me, the whole reason to love a diamond is that fire and rainbow of sparkles. That is what makes it a beautiful stone to me. So....for that reason, and also due to finances at this time, a Moissy was a good choice for me - it does have that fire and throws the rainbows I love so well.
There are some Moissy that are more colorless than others - the brightest (untreated) are in 1 ct. size or lower, and round cut. But, even in that size, one stone is not equal to another - shop around. In my case, my Moissy is bright white - and any greenish yellow undertones are almost non-noticeable. I've seen Moissy though that are bottle greenish or yellowish so shop around.
Again, I would love to own a real diamond again, and some day hope to - but for now, my Moissy suits me fine, the fire truly is amazing. I'm sure it wouldn't fool a good jeweler or even a person with an especially good eye due to the amazing fire - but...the average person? Yep, fools them every time. Not that I ever tell them it is a real diamond, I say nothing at all and simply accept their compliments.
So, best advice to ANYONE really is shop around for yourself. Look for yourself - see what is out there and decide on your OWN what you want. That is what I did - and for me, it is a good choice. Good luck to anyone considering a Moissy purchase.
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