(Closed) How do I deal with this?? Grad school related.

posted 7 years ago in College
Post # 3
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Newbee
  • Wedding: December 2011

How about copying and pasting that into an email to a tutor?

Post # 4
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

Talk to your professor. And then do things without her — like make the handout and have your extra talking points ready so that when she starts wrapping it up, you can just keep going. Let your prof know you are doing all this extra work and why. When I was getting my master’s, this happened to me. The prof gave us separate grades because it was obvious that I did twice the work that my partner did. The prof told me afterwards that he doesn’t like giving separate grades like that because the point of a group project is as much about managing the interpersonal issues as it is the resulting presentation, but it was very obvious what was going on. He had talked to other faculty about what to do. I didn’t know any of this and just worked my ass off myself.

This might torpedo the friendship, but grad school is bigger than one acquaintance.

Post # 6
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Bumble Beekeeper

Strong personality or not, do your best to stand up to her too – “I know we have different approaches to grades; it totally killed me to get a 92 on that last test! and I wish I could be as laid back as you, but I honestly can’t, and I’d like to go all out on this presentation. I understand if you don’t want to do the extra work, but I will be making handouts, and if we don’t end up with enough sources, I’m going to end up going through and finding them myself later.”

Ideally she’ll either agree to disagree and let you do the work the way you want, or she’ll cave and realize she’s killing your mojo. 😉 I also agree about talking to the TA if there is one, or the prof if s/he is understanding and approachable.

Post # 7
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Honey bee
  • Wedding: July 2011

@heathaah: But if she is only using 2-3 references, that means I need to use at least 7 or 8!

And?

Undecided

Post # 9
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Bumble Beekeeper

@heathaah: Unfortunately that means you’ll end up working harder for your grade… but you care about it, so is it worth it? (This was the story of my life in undergrad, haha; usually the answer for me was that yes, it was worth it.)

Post # 10
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Bumble bee

either you’re going to get stuck doing a majority of the work, because she has made it clear she’s doing bare minimum or look at the syllybus and see how much this is acutally worth and decide how much work to actually put into it. Oh yea and don’t surprise her with a handout, tell her we are doing a hand out becuase its required. I mean geez, she made it to grad school, so she must understand the word REQUIRED.

Post # 11
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: January 1991

I hate group projects.. and that is why! I would tell her the requirements and see that they get done, not just by you but by your partner as well. She may have “opinions” but you can give her the assignment (again) and tell her what’s expected. I tend to be kind of pushy about things like this tough, I’m not standing back and letting them do it wrong when they effect my grade. Then again, grades in grad school aren’t extremely important, at least for my degree anyway. I still expect the best work!

Post # 12
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: July 2010

My grad program requires a ton of group work.  Honestly, if you want the good grade, I would just do the extra work.  If there is anything that I’ve learned over the past 3 years of grad school, it’s that different people have different levels of motivation and priorities and are willing to do different amounts of work. 

I had a self-directed 1 1/2 year “group” project that literally had 20 group members.  Myself and 2 other people did 90% of the work.  It just works out that way sometimes.  I wasn’t willing to turn in a half-way done project, so I did what was necessary.  The group members who didn’t do anything got negative feedback, but they still got the same grade. 

Post # 14
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Newbee
  • Wedding: November 2012

From my experience, my professors could care less what percentage each member completes of the work.  Their response has always been to work as a team, that when you get into the real world- you have to work with people and they don’t always do what they should. 

I think that you “offering” to do the whole powerpoint is what you need to do to get things done.

Post # 15
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: January 1991

@heathaah: Yea same here. But our GPA is not a big deal when we graduate. If we do the work we’re supposed to do, then professors will usually give us a passing grade (B or higher). We’re also on the +/- system… so B- is not passing. Boo.

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