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How important do you think it is to eat organic?

posted 1 year ago in Wellness
  • poll: How much of a priority is eating / buying organic?
    I think it is very important. : (49 votes)
    30 %
    I don't really worry about it. : (83 votes)
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    I think it is somewhat important. : (34 votes)
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    cbee    July 26, 2010  

    Super interested in what you all think.

     
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    farmgirl2106    July 2010  

    Its not that I see anything wrong with it, I just think that it isn't necessary. Ironically, my brother-in-law is starting a company that will run a premium, organic branded beef program (ie: the meat is traced back to the producer, not "branding" perse, so please no lectures :)).

     
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    nut9108      

    Your options are too polar.

    I think it is important, but not imperative. Honestly, on my meager student budget there is no way I could eat an all-organic diet. I would rather focus on eating fresh, whole foods because I can afford that.

    Also, there are so many products that are labeled organic, but so highly processed that I think it negates the benefits of being organic (i.e. chips, crackers, etc.). Hansen's sells a brand of "organic" waters for kids :/

    And I just want to put this out there, just because you eat organic, does not mean you are eating HEALTHY! Just because your cheese flavored chips are organic does not mean they are good for you.

     
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    Miss Steinbeck    October 15, 2011  

    @nut9108: LOL how is water NOT organic

     

    To answer OP's question, if it's packaged food I usually don't care if it's organic or not. However if we're talking about eggs/fruit/veggies/meats I try to find things that are organic/pesticide free.

     
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    @Miss Steinbeck: It is "lightly flavored" water so I assume they are referring to the slight traces of fruit that flavored the water as organic? Either way I call rip-off :p

    How important do you think it is to eat organic? :  wedding Hansens

     
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    Miss Steinbeck    October 15, 2011  

    @nut9108: LOL so ridiculous! If a person's kids doesn't drink "plain" water, they have bigger issues than needing organic water.

     
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    tksjewelry    June 25, 2011   Omaha

    We do whenever possible.  We have friends with organic farms, so we get some from them.  With Trader Joes open, it is alot more affordable than it was.

     
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    melisandescott    October 2011  

    We eat as much organic/pesticide free as much as possible.  All of our fruits/veggies are purchased at the local farmers market.  Whether or not the farms are "certified" organic, many are pesticide-free, which is fine with us.  We also used to be members of a CSA, which was FABULOUS, however expensive for us right now. 

    I agree with the above comments that things like crackers/cookies/etc that are labelled organic are things that we don't pay attention to.  For us, the more important thing is to eat fresh, local, and natural.  Thus, we actually have stopped buying processed food altogether, regardless of whether its "organic" or not.  If it comes in a box, it doesn't come home with us!

    We eat lots of fresh fruits and veggies, bulk grains like millet, quinoa, brown rice, lots of beans and lentils.  Also a general rule, if something has more than a handful of ingredients/has ingredients that we can't pronounce, we don't buy it.  We don't buy sodas/juices; we exclusively drink water, milk, tea/coffee.  We bake our own bread. Meat is a luxury, and we'll have chicken or turkey once a week and fish (wild-caught, Alaskan fish) once a week. 

     
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    @melisandescott: They say to use the "5-ingredient" rule. If there are more than 5 ingredients listed you shouldn't buy it. Or another one is the "great-grandma" rule. If your great-grandmother would not recognize an ingredient you shouldn't be eating it.

     
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    melisandescott    October 2011  

    @nut9108:  Thats the general rule we follow.  For the most part, it doesn't come into play, since we don't buy really any processed stuff. But there are somethings that we'll splurge on that will have more than five good, natural ingredients.  But yea...the great-grandma rule is great.  Especially when you think about the corn derivatives that are in foods.

    I was at Michael's not too long ago, and was standing next to the impulse candy display, so I picked up something to look at (ICEE gel candy...they just looked gross) and was disgusted to see not a SINGLE ingredient that would be considered 'food.'  I don't even remember sugar; i think it was all HFCS.

     
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    Opus    December 23, 2011  

    We put eating local above organic, though we try to do both if possible. We're members of a CSA, which is actually a very good value for the money here. When it comes to the "dirty dozen" buying organic is important to us, but otherwise not so much. I also garden and get veggies from the backyard, we'll add chemical fertilizer on rare occasion and avoid pesticides.

    Ultimately, if the world's farmers grew all our produce organically we couldn't grow enough food with the resources we have. Right now, the world has a food distribution problem, with all organics it would be a food supply problem.

     
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    littlemissmango    July 7, 2012   Oahu, HI

    I definitely try for local above certified organic, especially when it comes to produce, but for anything processed, going with organic is virtually the only way to guarantee that it won't have GMO ingredients. I am very concerned with GMO foods. (lol @ the organic water though, btw.. :)

     
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    hilsy85    September 2010  

    I have to say, I don't really make much of an effort to eat local or organic. It's more expensive, and quite frankly, having things like "Organic cocoa puffs" exist makes me more skeptical of the whole thing. Maybe I'll feel differently once I'm pregnant/have kids.

     
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    la boome    October 28, 2011   Pittsburgh, PA

    We are members of an organic CSA and we buy organic meat whenever we have the option.  So, at home - we tend to eat 75% organic. At restaurants though, we obviously can't control it, so our diets as a whole are probably only 50% organic.

     
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    abbyful    June 7, 2011   Kansas City

    I eat some organic food. I think organic meat is more important than organic fruits/veggies. I wish I could eat all organic, but it's so expensive!

    I also try to remember the "Dirty Dozen" and "Clean Fifteen". Though I don't always buy the organic versions of the "Dirty Dozen".

    I think first priority should be eating fresh or frozen real food; not food-like substances.  Then, if you can afford it, look into organic food options.

     

    2010 "Dirty Dozen" (buy these organic if possible)

    Celery

    Peaches

    Strawberries

    Apples

    Domestic blueberries

    Nectarines

    Sweet bell peppers

    Spinach, kale and collard greens

    Cherries

    Potatoes

    Imported grapes

    Lettuce

     

    2010 "Clean Fifteen" (these don't need to be organic)

    Onions

    Avocados

    Sweet corn

    Pineapples

    Mango

    Sweet peas

    Asparagus

    Kiwi fruit

    Cabbage

    Eggplant

    Cantaloupe

    Watermelon

    Grapefruit

    Sweet potatoes

    Sweet onions

     
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    ejs4y8    June 20, 2009  

    I'm in the middle for this--some things I buy organic/free range/hormone free, depending on what's available, but some things I just don't because I don't think it's worth it (ie i buy regular oatmeal, not organic oatmeal). I shop at Trader Joes or Sam's Club often, but organic/free range/hormone free food is just not as readily available in St. Louis as it is in other places.

     
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    kitzy    June 2011  

    if organic wasn't so much more expensive most of the time, i might buy it.

     
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    mssocks    October 10, 2010  

    I'm not a big stickler on "organic" food so much as I am on unprocessed foods.  I try to buy as much fresh food as possible and never buy the pre-packaged, boxed meals.  I think eventually I might move to eating more organic foods, especially when I have kids, but right now I'm more focused on getting processed foods out of my diet!

     
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    gabrielleelise1981    August 28, 2010   Portland, Maine

    I think “organic” and “natural” have become buzzwords and too many people assume if they see a label that says organic or natural, or shop at Whole Foods, whatever they buy is good for them. Yesterday at the grocery store I saw some dinosaur shaped chicken nuggets that had “100% all natural!!!” splashed across the front. All natural...really?

    I try to eat real organic food when possible, but I’m most concerned with eating real food overall.

    I try to buy as much of my veggies as possible from our local farmers market, and I’m a CSA member, but of course I have to buy out of season fruits and veggies at the grocery store. I also try to buy only small/local/humanly farmed meat for ethical reasons, and because honestly, local chicken tastes about 182926834 times better than Tyson chicken.

     
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    I think organic is important both health wise and environmentally.

    That being said I'm not always sure what the organic label means.  We're lucky to live in an area that has lots of fresh food options and most of them are organic even if they're not certified.  So that's what we choose.

     
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    cbee    July 26, 2010  

    Great answers bees, thank you.

    nut9108 I know the options are polar.  I am just interested in how people feel specifically about organic foods, in general.  I am glad for all of the comments, though.   

    mssocksI definitely agree that eating REAL food is an important basic step.  We actually don't buy anything processed (accept Boca burgers :/ sometimes I just need to make something fast).

    melisandescott Your diet sounds a lot like ours. 

    Opus Gardening!  That is the ultimate CSA :)  I wish I could have a garden where we live right now :/  Next year!

    abbyful, I make it priority to get the "Dirty Dozen" organic.  Thanks for the great list.  And like I said, I agree about leanring to eat real food as a priority.

    I started buying organic frozen fruits and veggies in the winter months.  They taste so good and they are less expensive.  I also make it a priority to get organic milk and fruits and veggies on the "Dirty Dozen" list.  I think local organic dairy is really important!  DH loves meat, so I get him humanely raised/ no antibiotic/ no hormone meat- once a week.  Personally I eat a lot of beans, lentils, whole grains.  It took me a long time just to learn to cook and to transition from processed foods, but I am almost completely there.

    I do have my weaknesses like ice cream.  :/  It is just SO expensive if I get organic ice cream.  (Not that that is a staple).

    So it seems like eating real food is a priority, then local, then organic for some of you.  I think my priorities are similar, but local and organic are equal for me.

     
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    Mrs.KMM    July 17, 2010   Atlanta, GA (wedding in Indianapolis, IN)

    @hilsy85: I'm with you - I make really no effort to eat organic or local food.  I really don't believe it is that much batter for you and I'm not willing to spend the extra money on it.  My family has never eaten organic and we've always been way most healthy than most people I know.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it (or spend more moeny on it)!

     
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    june42011    January 29, 2012   NORTH DAKOTA

    I buy organic milk b/c it lasts longer than regular milk so I don't have to throw it out -thats about it, everything else is too pricey. Maybe if they started making organic ramen for the same price I'd switch :)

     
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    crayfish    September 11, 2010   Berkeley, CA

    I eat organic when I can, but don't go nuts about it. We're lucky enough to have a Trader Joe's down the street from us, so organic stuff is a lot cheaper there, in stead of getting food from "Whole Paycheck" (Whole Foods ;-) ) or overpriced at a normal grocery store.

     
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    EvaBostonTerrier    July 3, 2010  

    I live in Ohio and where I am located, there are a ton of local options - which ultimately end up being much lower priced.  We buy our groceries at a local health food/market store.  We focus on trying to pick healthier options - whole grain/ unbleached/ no HFCS breads, local cage-free brown eggs (yes, for some reason I prefer brown over white...), naturally raised "low fat" meat, etc.  Some is certified organic, and other products are just local.  I'm fine with either.

    Having said that, I grew up with parents who were consciencious about what we ate.  Our neighbors were farmers and old order amish.  We bought produce from them all summer long.  We basically only ate meat that we raised ourselves.

     
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    veganglam    January 5, 2013   Philadelphia; Wedding in NYC

    @Opus: That's just not true.  Where did you hear that?  Take a look at these statistics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_farming#Productivity_and_profitability. The UN disagrees.  A more serious issue we have right now is the amount of land being diverted to growing crops for farmed animals to eat.  It takes an outrageous amount of land (among other resources) to grow food for farmed animals, compared to how much people-ready food we could get out of the same amount of land.

    I eat organic whenever possible.  The danger of the chemicals in non-organic food is a bit uncertain, but so much research strongly suggests that much of it may be dangerous, and I'm not really interested in ingesting things that will kill me.  The toll on the environment is much more of a concern for me.  I don't just eat organic, I buy organic anything whenever possible.  Cotton sheets, t-shirts, household cleaners, etc.  Healthy immediate living environment and healthier planet at large.  Planet earth is a beautiful thing and I do what I can to keep it that way.  Honestly, I don't find it to be any more expensive really.  From early spring-November, we have an amazing CSA that sent us more veggies than we could ever eat in a week without prepping and freezing stuff, and for way less than it would have cost to go out and buy a normal week's worth of non-organic stuff at the supermarket.  In the winter, Trader Joe's keeps us solid.  

     
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    cbee    July 26, 2010  

    veganglamI am glad you commented!  Thank you!

    hilsy85 & FutureKMM  I am just wondering why you don't make it a priority.  Do you think it is just a marketing ploy?  Supporting your local family farmers (IMO) supports also a value system (consisting of community, hardwork, family values, appreciation for land and supports healthy eating because people understand where food comes from and appreciate it) on top of any direct health effects (if you feel those are debatable), and on top of local economy effects, and on top of environmental effects (not using chemicals and pesticides).  For me, there are just so many reasons.  I am just saying it also supports a lifestyle and community that I think is important.

    Even though we have a tiny budget, we make it work as much as we can.

     
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    Valhalla    June 26, 2010   Vancouver, British Columbia

    I didn't vote in the poll because I felt the answers were too polar, but I believe it is important to eat organic if you can. But I also feel strongly about eating local and supporting local farms. when you can.

    As a student, I couldn't afford any organic foods. When I started my career, I made a switch to things that I felt were especially important to eat organic, becuase I eat a lot of it. For example. I only buy organic milk, becuase I drink A LOT of it. So I can feel better about the quality of the milk going into my body. I also purchase organic, natural (meaning the kind you have to stir when you first get it) peanut butter, and salad greens. Occasionally I'll buy bananas as well. If something I dont' normally buy organic is on sale, I'll pick it up, but don't go out of my way to buy it.

    Organic meat is harder to come by, but I make it more of a priority to buy hormone free meat from animals that are grass fed, which I can get at my regular grocery store. I also make it a priorty to buy cage free eggs. And I make sure cage free means they are allowed to roam free all day, not just let out for a small portion of the day and locked up the rest of the time. Rabbit River Farms in BC has fantastic eggs that are cage-free, vegetarian fed, and organic. But boy are they costly! It's worth it to me though. I also try to only buy wild salmon.

     

     
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    Jenn23    April 17, 2010   Philly suburbs

    I, too, couldn't vote in the poll because of the two available choices. I'm kinda in the middle on this one. Like some others mentioned, if the prices were more affordable for organic foods, I would definitely purchase them. But they are just too pricey for me. I only buy organic foods sometimes and I would love to buy more. Fruits and meats are already sooo expensive. The organic prices are even worse. :(

     
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    Baileyh    July 24, 2010   Vancouver

    @cbee: I dont worry about it all. I feel i might change my tune if i had more money or when i have kids...but as of right now..i dont care.

     
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    cbee    July 26, 2010  

    I added another option to the poll, thanks ;)

     
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    cbee    July 26, 2010  

    I had a Prof. in college that always said, "You CAN eat organic if you make it a priority- ie- cut out the booze," stuff like that and we would roll our eyes.  But I think she is right.  I have a teeny tiny budget, and I make it work.  But I know somethings are just hard to come by (like organic meat due to prices).

    I also use a lot of natural cleaning products- such as vinegar and baking soda.  Vinegar is inexpensive and the smell goes away- it is the ultimate cleaning agent!

     
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    Mrs.KMM    July 17, 2010   Atlanta, GA (wedding in Indianapolis, IN)

    @cbee: Honestly - eating organic/local just isn't something I've ever cared about.  Everyone has their causes and concerns that they feel strongly about and organic food / pesticides / the envoronment / etc is not something I put much care and concern behind.  Others do and I fully support that choice; it just isn't mine.

    That said - I'm sure I have other things that are important and a priority to me that many of you on this thread don't share.  We all make different choices and decisions on what we care about and eating organic/local just doesn't do anything for me.

     
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    cbee    July 26, 2010  

    FutureKMM Okay.  I am just trying to understand different points of view.  (Especially because it is something that matters SO much to me.)  I also come from a long line of family farmers and here (in WI) they are everywhere.  I respect your choices.  I am just curious about them and passionate about mine :).  But I can respect that- different strokes for different folks.

     
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    Entangled    September 17, 2011   Carmel, CA

    I'm not big on organic.  I try to eat mostly healthy, minimally processed (except veggie burgers and veggie sausage... because I love that stuff) but I generally think organic isn't really worth the extra money.

    @cbee: lol at your professor!  If it were booze vs. organic booze would win any day.

    Honestly, I'm really weird about food stuff.  I know rationally I'm a very healthy eater - I eat fruits and veggies until my gut rebels against them (um... yeah, this has happaned multiple times).  But I've been obsessed healthy eating in the past to the point where it was harmful (see gut rebellion), so I try to be really low-key about it and focus on eating a blend of food that gives me energy and makes me feel good.

    Also - where we live people get a little carried away about organic/local/homemade to the point where it makes me want to eat a twinkie in rebellion - and I think twinkies are gross.  I like going to the farmer's market because the fruits and veggies taste better (except for some reason the apples... farmers market apples around here are way sweeter than supermarket apples so I buy those at the store) but I always come home really annoyed.

     
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    hilsy85    September 2010  

    @cbee: There's no particular reason why I don't eat organic or local...I mean, part of it is definitely the expense--we live in NYC and while we do have access to a Trader Joe's and a Whole Foods, I prefer my regular supermarket (Fairway), which does have a large organic section but again, things are definitely more expensive. I do try to eat healthy foods, so I would say I'm at least as healthy, if not more healthy, than people who eat organically. It's not like I'm stuffing my face with high fructose corn syrup and artificial sweetners :)

    As for local farmers, to shop at a farmers market would take a lot of effort for me--I would have to take public  transportation to get there, and even then I wouldn't be able to buy everything I needed. It's honestly too much of a hassle for me. I guess I"m also not very "environmentally conscious"--I mean, I obviously understand that what we do/eat affects the earth and we need to take care of it, but I guess I just don't make much of an effort to do that in terms of changing my eating habits. I have other priorities, similar to @FutureKMM.

     
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    artichokey    June 16, 2012  

    It's important to us but like others, the cost is prohibitive. We break it down so that we're getting the most organic goods for our dollar. We shop at a farmer's market, have our own garden in summer, and have a grass-fed cow in the freezer. Here's our priority list:

    Is it meat? If so it needs to be pasture-raised (grass fed, free range, and organic)

    -Buy directly from the farmer or co-op. Occasionally buy the unprocessed kind if we're in a pinch. We have our grass-fed cow, so we don't buy beef at the store or market. We buy our whole chickens/turkeys/eggs/bacon/pork from a local farmer at the farmer's market nearby. He raises all of his animals on the pasture and uses no pesticides.

    Is it something I'm going to eat whole? (Potatoes, apples, bananas, carrots, lettuce, etc.)

    -Buy from a local, trusted farmer whenever possible. Buy organic from the store or co-op.

    Is it a packaged whole food? (Dried beans, pasta, rice, frozen lunches)

    -Buy organic (Amy's frozen lunches are fantastic and have no weird products, and are fairly healthy. And delicious might I add.)

    Is it a packaged staple? (Flour, sugar, olive oil, non-stick spray)

    -Buy organic whenever possible to do so

    Is it dairy?

    -Buy grass-fed organic milk

    -Try to buy local/organic cheese. This isn't always possible for us, so we often buy conventional cheeses. The implications of covnentional cheese are not the same, however, as conventional beef or potatoes, for example.

    -Try to buy organic butter when possible.

    Is it a processed food? (Tortilla chips, tortilla shells, enchilada sauce, chocolate chips, pretzles, etc.)

    -Buy conventionally. We don't eat these things in large quantities and organic options are hard to find/sort of silly when it's still not a very healthy item.

    Grow it ourselves!

    I use almost exclusively herbs from our garden in my cooking. I have a ton of dried herbs for the winter, and pots of herbs on the windowsill to keep my fresh stock up. We've got a large stock of carrots and parsnips from our garden as well, which is the best way we can think of to eat fresh, local, organic food and not go broke doing it.

    Also, if it's something we eat a lot of, is heavy in weight, or both, we buy organic. Milk, beef, eggs, broccoli (we eat a ton of it), potatoes, etc. Organic is important for our health but also for the environments. Aside from water pollution, the sheer amount of oil needed to raise 1 acre of industrial corn is 50 gallons (Michael Pollan, Omnivore's Dilemma, page 45). Since that corn goes primarily to beef feedlots and into high fructose corn syrup, those are the things we avoid first and foremost.

     

    That's just how we prioritize. Someday I would love to buy everything organic. I don't think I'll ever buy organic chocolate cheerios because it just seems a little silly. If you're going to eat junk food, organic isn't going to help you.

     
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    WifeofBath    May 28, 2013  

    I am allergic to most preservatives in foods and FI is allergic to corn... all corn. So organic is a must.

    Also, to the Whole Paycheck comments, Whole Foods is actually cheaper for us compared to conventional grocery stores. For instance, here we have Publix. Whole Foods offers the same items  such as grocery bags etc and organic food cheaper for us. You just have to be smart about what you buy, it can get expensive shopping anywhere

     
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    veganglam    January 5, 2013   Philadelphia; Wedding in NYC

    @cbee: Yeah, I am always hesitant to comment on threads I know I feel a bit too strongly about and could probably write a book on...because I don't have time to write a book, complete with citations haha. But I just had to jump in.  Basically to say, where there's a will, there's a way.  I find eating vegetarian to generally be really cheap, and eating organic to be pretty affordable.  I was discussing food budgets with my friend who lives down the street from me and cooks for her and her boyfriend, just like I cook for me and FI, and we spend less than she does, even though I prioritize organics and she...doesn't.  I'm also pretty damn certain our food is healthier AND tastier, but that just could be because she's not a particularly good cook. :P  It just takes a bit of looking around to find the best sources for economical purchases, but the time I spent doing that was so worth it.

    I also TOTALLY agree on the vinegar.  I use it for just about everything but cleaning the tub and toilet and dishes.  The smell usually dissipates within an hour, and it kills bacteria and leaves everything so shiny and clean.  And a bottle costs like 50 cents.  You can't beat that.

    @WifeofBath: Yeah, in my suburban Philadelphia college town, literally the ONLY place to shop is our co-op.  And Whole Foods is WAY cheaper than the co-op! I always stop when I'm in Philly or New York to load up on things I like to have around, like pastas and spices and stuff, that are cheaper there.   

     

     
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    melisandescott    October 2011  

    @cbee:

    @veganglam:

    Ladies, I'd LOVE to hear more about your uses for vinegar; I've read about it's uses for cleaning, but I haven't made the move to use it regularly.  Any thoughts to share?  Do you use it for your kitchen?  Does it disinfect?  Do you use it in a spray  bottle?  What's the ratio?  Any sites you can direct me to?

    Thanks!

     

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