(Closed) How important is quality over quantity with Round Brilliants?

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Post # 3
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: December 2013

Check out this website– he’s not trying to sell you anything and he has really interesting insights on where you can compromise without a visibly noticeable difference. He totally changed the wy I shopped for my diamond.

FWIW, before seeing diamonds in person I thought I wouldn’t go below an F, VVS1 diamond, because it just “the absolute lowest you can go without sacrificing the quality look”. hah. Right. I can see the inclusions under a loupe but it is completely eye clean, it sparkles like crazy, and doesn’t face up at all yellow (though it is in rose gold so that offsets some)- and my diamond is a SI1 either I or J (I honestly can’t remember).

People want to think a diamond is an investment but just like a car, you will be lucky to resell it for even half what you spend on it. Choose what LOOKS the best and don’t try to worry about “quality” for quality’s sake (unless you can afford the size you want in a IF-D… then go for it).

Post # 4
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: December 2013

Oh, also, I took several color theory classes in college when getting my art degree, so I am not someone that doesn’t see color well.

And in case you haven’t chosen vendors yet, we used James Allen for the diamond and Chris at EngagementRingsDirect.com made my ring (I was living in New York so I was able to do it in person but they do a lot of business online)- I’d happily recommend both. Sorry, I feel like I wrote a book but I did a LOT of research when we were ring buying. Let me know if you have any questions.

Post # 5
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: November 2013

@ElleNLOVE:  In my opinion, quality is most definitely more important. I am very color sensitive. I have a round brilliant and when we were looking at diamonds, I could obviously notice the difference in color from my chosen G to an H-I color. I could also see the inclusions in the SI1 and 2 were making a difference in how the diamond sparkled. 

If you are color sensitive, I wouldn’t go below a G in color.

Post # 6
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: February 2008

Hands down, cut is most important.  That you definitely cannot compromise on!  Color – yes, I agree that anything H or higher is great, I would not go below H (me, personally).  Maybe an I if it had a tiny bit of blue fluor to make sure it’s white.  And that’s something to consider, you can save a lot by going down in color if you have a bit of fluor.  Not too much or it can be cloudy, but the Brian Gavin Blue line is awesome!  I think the fluor is cool 🙂  Keep inmind though, that the bigger you go in size, the more color it will show.  If you go for a 2ct, make sure you comfortbale with the color grade you choose.  As far as clarity, SI2 makes me nervous, but there are plenty of eye clean SI1’s out there.  I don’t care if it’s loupe clean, only eye clean!  And if you’re buying online, which you should for best value, just ask the gemologist if the stone is eye clean.  They will tell you.  Happy shopping!

Post # 7
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Bee Keeper

Don’t get less than an ideal/excellent cut, and don’t go below G/H if you’re color sensitive. You could get an H color with blue fluorescence to help offset some of the color. As for clarity, that’s really a personal preference thing. Many SI diamonds will have inclusions the you can see if you’re looking really close, but many people don’t mind that as long as it’s not obvious. I would go nuts if I could see an inclusion so I would have to find a very clean SI stone. 

Post # 8
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2013

My one carat RB is H in color with blue fluorescence and SI1. There is only one inclusion I can see with the naked eye, and that’s only if I stare closely at the one particular spot. If I didn’t have the certificate for the diamond with the inclusions marked on it, I may have never even noticed it. I only  know where it is because I looked for it. My diamond sparkles like crazy and I’m always getting compliments on it. That being said, I wouldn’t go lower than H. The diamond in my original e ring (which I had to change, long story) was a J and the quality/color was visibly less desirable.

Post # 9
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Bee Keeper

For me, quality is extremely important in round brilliants (that’s what I have, and I chose triple-ex F VS1 no fluoro, decreasing any of these would have caused a perceptable loss in beauty to me) and I would estimate a budget for the size range you’re looking at to be around the area of $20,000. Especially when starting with such a large size range, I’d rather sacrifice size than quality if I have budget limitations.

Post # 10
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Bee Keeper

@TeamAwesome:  I couldn’t disagree with the guy that runs that website more, on many of the things he says. I believe he is either farsighted, or has an ulterior motive for some of the opinions he expresses. I read his site before going diamond shopping and I was so frustrated about all the differences that he said I wouldn’t be able to see that were actually blindingly obvious to both my FI and me. “Truth about diamonds” indeed!

Post # 11
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Bumble Beekeeper
  • Wedding: December 2013

@ElleNLOVE:  I’d go down to a G or H in that size, and probably VS2. SI grades are ok if you verify they’re eye clean.

I think RBs are definitely the safest to go down on the color and clarity, though.

I have H earrings and can’t see any yellow.

I’d go to a store and check out Gs and Hs and see if you can tell the color (usually if you can tell the color it’ll be from the side, not the top), maybe compare it to a D or E and see if it’s a big deal to you.

Post # 12
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Blushing bee
  • Wedding: August 2014

@ElleNLOVE:  my FI did all the research and we looked at so many diamonds..

we settled for a G in color, Hearts & Arrows Ideal/Perfect Cut, SI1. the inclusion on mine is a SUPER tiny cloud! you can barely see it. and the cut is amazing. my diamond sparkles like there’s tomorrow! as for the color, i love it! it looks colorless to me! (i wouldn’t go any lower than H in color though)

Post # 13
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: December 2013

@joya_aspera:  Honestly, to each their own. I can say that seeing things in person clarified my decision for me, and apparently it did for you as well (though we each ended up drawing opposite conclusions, lol)

OP, I would just recommend that you look at diamonds in person (even if you want to ultimately buy online). It will be the best way to see what areas you are willing to compromise on.

Post # 14
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: November 2013

I have the budget for a 1.6 carat if I am willing to compromise on the color and clarity. However, I am the person that want to know my diamond is clean although I can not see it. Therefore, I went with excellent cut, excellent polish, excellent symetry, F, VVS1 and only 1.26 carat. It is a personal reference I think. To me, I like to wake up everyday knowing my diamond is high quality, and people don’t need to know about it. I just love perfect diamond. 

Post # 15
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: November 1999

Ull get different answers to this question bec ppl have very different attitudes toward what makes a diamond a ‘good’ one. It will ultimately come down to what is most important to u.

Quality is more important with almost any diamond, the cut quality that is. The clarity may or may not be less important than quantity (if by quantity u mean carat size) depending on ur perspective. But do not sacrifice the cut quality or ull sacrifice light reflection and fire in a major way. Same goes for color. 

I say prioritize cut first, then either color or clarity next. Probably color, then choose the size that can fit in ur budget. Unless size is more important, as it was for me, so I found a certified super super super eye clean I clarity in a 1.6 with a great color and excellent/ideal cut.

For me, the clarity was less important than anything else bec I knew that all diamonds r flawed and to get a practically flawless one it would be smaller. I wanted size and didn’t want to fight against diamonds natural beauty (even an I can be breathtaking) So its up to each individual. The good thing is that there’s a stone out there to suit everybody.

Post # 16
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: November 1999

judge a stone for the beauty you see in it, not it’s specs. Every diamond is unique. Two stones with the same specs can look completely different! 

My 2 carat round is an L I believe and I rarely see any warmth. When chosing my stone, I narrowed it to 3 stones with varying specs, the other two were a F and an H color, same size and varying clarities.  I couldn’t choose, the jeweler mixed them all up and held up all 3 and said which one do you think is most beautiful?  I chose mine. I was pretty shocked when he said it was an L! To me, I couldn’t tell the difference in color at all side by side with the F and H.

That’s why I think it’s important to buy in the store where you can see the stones.

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