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Wow, that is a bit crazy, but whatever works best for y'all is what you ought to do! I haven't heard of having 4 ceremonies before, but if that's what you need, go for it.
Yeah, that's the issue... we're not 100% convinced that it will work best for us! Just haven't found that better idea yet, I guess.
Could you just do...
1) quick JP thing and don't tell/invite anyone
2) see how your parents feel about skipping the Catholic church thing and getting convalidation later
3) chapel ceremony as planned
4) reception only in Costa Rica, no ceremony
yeah, I agree with HotChild. do your parents know that you're going to have a non denom service even if you have a catholic service? or that the only reason you're having the catholic service is because they're asking you to? Maybe if you sat down and really talk about the benefits of each way with them, then each take a few days to think about it, and then come back to make a decision together, either they'll see your perspective or you'll understand theirs.
I'm not Catholic, but can you do a quicky Catholic wedding instead of the JP thing? Since you're not going to get the dress, have a party, invite anyone etc anyway? It would still be legally binding - it's just a matter of whether the church will let you do a 20 minute service or something to make it binding, legally and religously.
@hotchildinthecity:
Regarding 1), we were pretty set on not telling anyone except maybe my parents.
2) I spoke with them about that, and they seemed fine with it as a last resort... like if the priest refused to marry us because we're living together, or something. (From what I hear, that's not likely. We talked to him briefly, and he seemed eager to perform our wedding and work around potential obstacles.) I've actually considered telling my parents that he wouldn't do it (i.e. lying), but I can't believe that lying is a good way to start off a marriage, even if it is to my parents instead of to my FI.
3) I like this part!!
4) This is something we've definitely considered. Our original plan was to marry at the ruins of an old colonial church in Costa Rica, but we nixed that due to logistical reasons. As we were still hoping to incorporate that site somehow (it has special meaning to us), but it wouldn't be a good reception location, we figured we could do a quickie vow renewal there and reception after. Should I just let the ruins thing go, skip the vow renewal, and have just a reception in CR?
@daydreamwanderer: We'd have to wait at least 6 months to go through all of the Catholic marriage prep stuff, putting us right at our intended date! (The church is serious about this marriage stuff! Guess I don't blame them, though.) Hence the JP first/Catholic ceremony later thing.
1) awesome
2) maybe see if the priest can perform the ceremony at the chapel? We were originally planning on having our ceremony at a private school chapel and even though it wasn't a church, per se, the priest would have been able to do it there.
3) see above
4) personally, I would skip the vow renewal thing and just do a reception. You could always do a one-year anniversary thing there or something.
2) We already asked him specifically about the chapel (I think he gets asked about it a lot), and he was very clear that since we're both "Catholic" (FI is only baptized, not confirmed, not practicing, but whatever), we absolutely MUST be married in a consecrated space... and the chapel is not consecrated. I know, that would have been perfect, right?
1) totally understandable, lots of people are doing that now
2) and 3) how badly do you not want to have your 65-person wedding in the church? I was at one where they sat everyone to the choir stalls behind the altar and it all took place there - felt much more intimate than the whole echoing church. Also, have you thought of having the family Catholic ceremony on Sat night and then just a reception at the university? And finally, unless the priest who told you that is the only one you can have marry you, I would get a second opinion about having a Catholic ceremony in the chapel.
4) I would go for just a reception. I wish my second reception were in Costa Rica and not Minnesota! Nix celebrations at the ruins but have a romantic little photo shoot up there so it's a part of the wedding photos and memories.
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I would love to have one wedding and one reception. That would be just peachy. But at this point, we're looking at three. Maybe four. Eeeek!
I'm from the U.S., and he's from Costa Rica. We both live in Bloomington, IN, where we work/attend university. So our first plan was to have our wedding in a non-denominational chapel on the university campus, followed by a reception at another location in town. Then we would have a vow renewal of some sort (months later) in Costa Rica, because he has a huge, supportive family there, but only his parents, brother, and maybe one aunt would be able to travel to our wedding in the U.S.
Problem: My family is Catholic (most importantly, my parents are Catholic, as in they sing in the church choir and don't miss a single Sunday or holy day). My parents have told me over and over again that I shouldn't let them pressure me into anything and that I should just tell them to bugger off if I feel the need to. While this is great of them, they're also putting huge pressure on me to have a traditional Catholic wedding. FI is baptized Catholic but not confirmed, but for the Church, that's good enough to mean that we're not allowed to marry in any location other than a consecrated space (i.e. a Catholic church).
We don't want to marry in a Catholic church. Why not? Well, for starters, neither of us is particularly devout. Sure, we believe in God and all that good stuff, but I have issues with the Church's position on same-sex relationships, birth control, sex before marriage... you know, all that liberal stuff that the Vatican is never going to change its stance on. Plus the FI isn't big into organized religion at all. Strangely enough, he's more open to a church wedding than I am... Also, we want no more than 75 people there. Churches are big. I don't want my wedding to be empty and depressing! The on-campus chapel holds 65 maximum and would be perfect!
Another thing--stay with me here--we're considering going to a JP and getting legally hitched ASAP, because his student visa expires in December, and although it's possible to renew it for a year (probably), that's way more expensive than the paperwork for changing his residency status via marriage. However, we want to marry in September, but the paperwork usually takes months, and we don't want to risk him getting deported!
So at this point we're looking at... maybe four ceremonies?
1. legal JP marriage; sign and drive wed ASAP
2. quiet, us-only (or immediate family-only) Catholic ceremony on Sat. night, in the church
3. a real wedding (although it'd technically be a vow renewal?), complete with wedding party, gown, all that, on Sun. afternoon at the chapel, in front of about 60 of our closest family/friends
4. vow renewal (or something like that) later on, in Costa Rica, with his family/friends there
I know you're going to tell me to just nix the Catholic wedding and go back later for a convalidation (i.e. "blessing" on our marriage) through the church if we decide we want it... but I respect my parents' opinions and wishes, especially because they're financing a big chunk of all of this!
So... give it to me straight. Is this reasonable? Is there a better solution? Or am I just crazy?