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    caitlanc    September 12, 2009   Western Slope of Colorado

    I want to preface this by saying I have a wonderful relationship with my future parents-in-law.  We might have very different taste at times but they are wonderful people and I'm lucky that I will soon be related to them.  That said, I don't know where we should draw the line. 

    The first headbutting was over the guest list, most of you have had this same arguement.  My FMIL wanted to invite people that have never been on our radar.  (Take for example, the ex-mayor, who is not even a family friend, or a neighbor that used to babysit my fiance 20 years ago and he hasn't seen since - nor, I think, has his mother.  Seriously?  I'm sorry, but no.  They will not be getting an invitation.)  So that was an easy line to draw.  (Easy decision, not easy to actually convince her.) 

    Then she started buying meat from Sam's club as it went on sale (we're more or less catering the dinner ourselves).  That's very sweet of her except that we don't agree with Walmart's business practices and avoid shopping there.  Additionally, if our wedding has a theme it's "local."  Sam's doesn't even come close.  So we compromised.  They're hosting the reception and so they can do it however they want.  Beef from Brazil or mass produced in a feedlot?  Fine, you host it, you call the shots but the meat for the reception will be grass-fed and local. 

    Most recently one of their friends RSVPed.  We enjoy hanging out with this couple and they have hosted many a Bronco party that we've attended.  I was happy to see that they were coming until I read the names.  Because the husband can't come his wife is bringing her son, her ex-brother-in-law and (who I assume to be) his wife because they happen to live nearby my hometown where the wedding will be.  ?!?  So my fiance mentions to his mom that we're not expecially thrilled about that.  Actually, I believe he texted, "Awesome. :-(" but I'm not even going to go there.  So then she sends back a text saying that she understands and that they will pay for the rehearsal dinner, as that is tradition, and that she would be happy to pick up the tab for dinner ingredients as well.  He thinks she was just being nice and offering, no strings attached.  I see it as if we accept that offer then we lose some room to "correct" RSVPs like the random ex-brother-in-law.  And will still have the tents, tables, alcohol, etc. to cover. 

    Oh, and my parents are footing the bill and my dad is letting us take over his farm.  While technically there's no max number of guests allowed, we passed my, and my parents', comfort zones a little while ago. 

    Then she asks if they can buy a keg of Coors Light for the wedding.  I know this one is silly to fuss over but the straws on my back are adding up.  We're planning on buying beer from the local brewery.  (Which is really, really good.)  So I don't really know what to think.  On the one hand, I want all of our guests to be happy and comfortable and theoretically, you could call Coors "local" (made 220 miles away.)  On the other, Palisade beer is good, they have a wheat beer that's not too heavy and it's made 2 miles (literally 2.0 miles) from the farm.  Local is our entire theme.  My dad is growing the veggies, we'll buy the meat from someone within the valley and the wine will have been grown and bottled from within 10 miles of the farm. 

    Any suggestions on where to concede and where to stand our ground?  Holy crap, that's long!  My apologies and congratulations to anyone who made it though all of that.  I would love to hear some outside opinions. 

     
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    vintage2010    April 10, 2010  

    Well I understand your wanting to stick with the theme of local, but just keep in mind not everything has to match the theme.  If they want to buy the keg of Coors I'd say the more the merrier!  One less thing that you have to buy and worry with the logistics of.  Also keep in mind it sounds like you and your in-laws have slightly different views.  I am having an airplane hangar wedding because the FI is a pilot and I am theater buff so it allows for us to share our personalities with everyone.  His mother on the other hand wants it to be this swanky formal affair.  When she mentions things to me about it being not formal I just quickly tell her about somethings that are going to be on the formal side.  I just try to make and keep the peace.  I do think that the relatives bringing uninvited guests is on the rude side.  But some people don't know that if the person invited is the person whos name is on the invitation.  Good luck!

     
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    cinemaparadiso    July 16, 2015  

    Wow! I am so sorry to hear so many of your things are being compromised!

    Overall, I would talk to these issues with her. Tell her your plans and see if she'd be willing to pick up the tab for the local beer or even part of it (those local beers get expensive!)

    Also cap her guest list ASAP. And about the rehearsal dinner--just let that go, I think. You're going to obviously have to pick your battles with this wedding.

    Above all, have your fiance talk to her. That's what he needs to do--it's his job to tell her what is most important to you and that she needs to back down on some things (random invite list).

    Good luck!

     
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    Miss Velveteen    20 March 2010   New Zealand

    I would stand firm on the guests (esp since your parents are paying & hosting!). Can your fi call, or get his mum to call, her friend and apologetically explain that they you only have room to invite the friend (and I guess her son? How old is he/are you having children?).

    But I'd let some of the food stuff go - e.g. the Coors, which is made close to you anyway. And your guests aren't going to know where the meat came from :) It sounds like local/ethical is important to you and I think that's awesome, but I also think this is going to be a time where you want to stress out as little as possible. It sounds like she's just trying to help? Good luck!

     
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    formerlybuttons    June 5, 2010  

    Oh how I feel for you!  My FMIL has been a bit demanding with wedding planning too.  Like you, my parents are paying for the majority of the wedding (whatever they're not covering, my FI and I are).  Of course, you don't have to shell out money to have a say in the wedding, but I just feel like if she's not contributing a dime (not even for the extra guests that she forced on us), she should try to be a little more respectful of the bride's wishes.

    That said, I think (and I've been trying to do this too) that it's easy to get caught up in all the details and who wants what, but as my friends and mom keep reminding me, she'll be your MIL for a long, long time.  A wedding is one very important day, and while you shouldn't compromise more than you are comfortable with, picking your battles is key.  Maybe tell yourself that the Coors and the meat and the extra guests are all that you're willing to budge on, and in the future your comfort and needs will come first.  I think it's important that your fiance be on "your side", too -- it's not so much that she needs to know her boundaries (if she did, she might not have acted the way she is, but I'm sure in her mind she's just trying to help!), but that you and your fiance have the same boundaries and that he's willing to support you when necessary.

    Good luck!  Your wedding sounds like it will be lovely.

     
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    caitlanc    September 12, 2009   Western Slope of Colorado

    I expected to come back with an update about how we talked to his parents and that they talked to their friend who wants to bring her son, ex-brother-in-law and his wife in place of her husband and that just the son would be coming.  Not so much. 

    I talked to my fiance's parents on Saturday about limiting the guest list and not inviting the extras.  His mom didn't really say anything and his dad promptly agreed that was fine.  Well, when we went over last night he took us aside and said that the decision was ours, but that he thought asking her not to bring her ex-BIL and his wife would cause some seriously hurt feelings.  As he put it, "I can fix a lot of things, but I don't think I could fix this one.  I've been trying to think of how to do it since Saturday and I can't come up with anything." 

    Eff. 

    My FFIL is an extremely intelligent and balanced man whose advice I treasure and will almost always take.  After seeing the "I don't know how to fix this but I'll do it if you want me to" look on his face both my fiance and I melted and we agreed (afterwards, we haven't told his folks yet) that if his dad thought that was best then we would let them come. 

    In the light of day though, I really don't get how someone could get so offended that they were requested not to bring two extra guests that have no connection to anyone at the wedding.  They're not even visiting from out town with nothing else to do!  I even suggested that they skip the ceremony and just come for the reception but FFIL thought that they want to come for the ceremony too.  ?!?!  I don't know.  Maybe they really love weddings?  Ugh.

     
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    smyley    May 2010  

    As I read through your initial post,it struck me that so many of the groom's families do nothing more than host the rehearsal dinner. In your case,you actually have FIL's that WANT to help and contribute! Do you know how lucky you really are?

    I think there are just some things you need to let go. Good luck!

     
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    caitlanc    September 12, 2009   Western Slope of Colorado

    I agree smyley, I am extremely lucky in my future in laws.  That doesn't mean things are always smooth sailing though.  And if you read my update you'll see that we have made concessions on everything except inviting the ex-mayor and a few others.  I'm willing to let go of most things, but I still want this to be recognizable as OUR wedding and we're having a hard time figuring out where that line should be drawn. 

     
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    smyley    May 2010  

    I did see your update and I think your future FIL was as honest as he could be about not knowing how to fix it. Good for you for letting this one go.

    It really WILL be your wedding! All eyes will be on you both,and all the agonizing and planning angst will just disappear as you say your vows. Nothing else will really matter. Everyone will be there for YOU...not your parents or FIL's....they're coming only for you.

    Trust me. It will be perfect!

     
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    kazoochair       Kalamazoo, Mi

    I felt like I found a kindred spirit on the shop local no Sams Club or Walmart thing...One of my first encounters with my daughter FMIL was planning the engagement party. She said I'l bring the cake. I get great ones from Sams.  I let it go...but I hated it. I didn't, however eat any. (no one noticed..I'm not a big dessert eater)

    I think you are doing the right thing by using your FILs advice. There is some dynamic here that isn't clear but I'd let it go. At least you control the reception. Goodl luck and don't lose your ethics!

     
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    caitlanc    September 12, 2009   Western Slope of Colorado

    Thanks Smyley, I do appreciate your advice.  Although, to be honest, I wouldn't mind having the spotlight taken off me by our parents a bit!  I'm not that much of a in the middle of things kind of gal.  :-)  You're right though.  It would take a lot to overshadow my dad's farm.  It will be Us.  

    Thanks kazoochair!  It can be so frustrating sometimes.  We live in Wyoming which isn't exactly home to the most environmentally aware population.  Most of the people I talk to do whatever is cheapest without regard to who or what might have been harmed in the making.  That's not to say I can afford to buy what I would ideally, but I do what I can.  Oh, and I'm with you on the grocery store cakes.  The frosting is SO gross!  I can sometimes eat the cake but I have to scrape the top off.  

     
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    NixLapi    October 24, 2009   Toronto

    I don't care who the "added" guest is - it's never ok to add extras. Three people don't get to replace one. We've just spent the evening (literally!) having a plus one "discussion" with FMIL... it wasn't pretty, feelings may have been hurt - but why should the bride & groom get walked all over? That's not cool.

    As for the keg of Coors - I'd say "meh" to that if I were in your shoes... I wouldn't be thrilled with it either, but really - it's just beer. Now if it were in exchange for allowing extra guests to come, THAT's another story! *lol*

     
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    million    October 24, 2009   Cape Town

    Until I started reading these boards I had no idea how common it is for some guests to interpret wedding invitations as open invitations (i.e. come one come all). We've been in the uncomfortable position of having to tell some of our guests that it's only them we're inviting (they're not in relationships but replied +1 in hopes they will meet someone within the next 2 months). I understand wanting to attend a wedding with a date, but we just couldn't accommodate that for all our single friends.

    Caitlanc, good on you for holding firm on not inviting the more extraneous guests but being flexible where you could. I think your FFIL will really appreciate you helping them out on this one and I'm sure he'll remember it for a long time!

    Re: you 'local' wedding, I think that's such a great theme. Like some of the others have said, though, don't stress if you can't have everything the way you'd like. Knowing that you achieved even a 75% local wedding should make you happy and proud -- just think of how much you've contributed to local businesses and the environment. Great stuff.

     
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    caitlanc    September 12, 2009   Western Slope of Colorado

    I was just explaining the regional (or maybe for our group, economic status?) differences in weddings to my fiance last night.  He's never been to a wedding where it wasn't assumed that he could bring a date and cash bars are the norm.  He had absolutely no idea that for other people the idea of random plus ones just isn't done - you don't bring ANYONE that wasn't listed on the invite and that cash bars are so gauche.  Oh well.  Learn something new everyday I guess. 

    And for the record, we were never going to tell his parents that they couldn't buy a keg of Coors.  I just needed to vent about it.  Although actually, NixLapi, I think they offered to buy the meat and veggies for the reception dinner in exchange for more leeway with the guests.  We're just going to ask them for help in keeping the plus (more than) one floodgates from bursting open.  Hopefully that will be enough. 

     
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    Mandyrosy    September 19, 2009   Montana

    Caitlanc,

    Good luck! I'm from Montana, so I can totally understand the regional and economic differences (my fiancé is from the South- big poofy white wedding capital of the U.S.!) as well as the lack of environmentally aware folks.

    We're trying to do the same thing with local food and drink, and lucky for us our parents aren't helping too much! That said, I don't have any super good advice. Talk to your FFIL about your concerns and goals, and try to let him work behind the scenes. 

    Best of luck!

     
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    caitlanc    September 12, 2009   Western Slope of Colorado

    So yesterday was my FMIL's birthday BBQ and the friend who invited her son, ex-brother-in-law and his wife was there.  The first thing out of her mouth after "Hi, sweetie!  Good to see you!" was "So my RSVP was a little weird, huh?"  Ugh.  It was so awkward and all I could do was smile and squeak out, "Yeah, it was a little weird.  I had to ask who the other people were..."  She was completely oblivious that it was a faux-pas.  I'm not sure if that's good or bad anymore...

     

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