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soooo yeah I would never do this. Cleaning someone else's bathroom?
My sister in law just had a baby on Monday. She was discharged on Tuesday, and hubs and I were able to visit on Tuesday night. My SIL, BIL and MIL were all blown away when I showed up with lasagna, dinner rolls and a salad, all prepared and labeled with instructions. This is their second child, so I didn't want to buy them any baby stuff since they already have everything.
BIL is a clean freak so he keeps their house clean. I don't think I would ever clean someone else's bathroom - kinda weird.
I would be so mortified if someone started cleaning my bathroom! LMAO! Just bring food that is easy to heat up.
Seriously I just wanted people to sit with me, (bring food if they wanted to bring somethng), and tell me they couldn't BEEEELIEVE I just had a baby. Tell the new mom how skinny she looks. Even if she doesn't. That is the best present ever!
Um, no. I brought a lasagna, called hubs on the way and asked him to pre-heat his oven, stayed until it was cooked, held the baby and left. No cleaning...I'm pretty sure I would be really freaked out if someone was secretly cleaning my house.
@moderndaisy: Here it is:
HOW TO BE THE BEST POST PARTUM VISITOR IN 15 MINUTES OR LESS
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Edited to add:
March 31, 2011
So this really crazy thing happened. A week ago, I had an idea to make a quick and easy list of suggestions for people visiting friends after they had a new baby. I was sitting on the couch and told my husband my idea and we brainstormed the list and I posted it on my blog and shared the link on my facebook. A few days later, I looked at my stats and noticed that my little post-partum list had 2,000 hits. Which totally blew me away, because my blog is small and humble and I threw my post together in only a few minutes. Anyways, it turns out that 2,000 hits isn't that many at all, because as I type this, I'm just a few hundred hits away from 20,000, which, wow! is quite a lot, and makes me sort of embarrassed and wish that I put a little more thought into how I worded this piece...but it is what it is and it obviously resonates with enough people that a couple of thousand of them felt compelled to share it on their facebook. (Thank you very much for sharing it, my new friends!)
Considering how many people are reading this, I'd like to add three things to this post. First of all, I'd like to say that what I really wanted to communicate is that post-partum visitors need to have an unselfish, service-oriented attitude when going to visit the parents and their new baby. Personally, I'd be thrilled if someone loaded my dishwasher or shined up my bathroom, and left after 15 minutes but many people have commented that this would make them really uncomfortable and others have said that they would want and need more visiting time. So, I'd like to add:
Secondly, take the time to read the comments below. People have been sharing some really great ideas, personal experiences and stories. A few ideas in the comments really stuck out to me as being awesome and so I want to put them here, in the main post:
And finally, something I said in the comments but I'll repeat here, is that our North American culture in general, is not good at supporting new families, and the fact that guests frequently overstay their welcome when the baby is just a few hours or days old, and then mothers are tired and alone when the baby is a few weeks or months old is a clear reflection of how we need to recognize, educate and organize ourselves and our friends to provide better post-partum support to new parents
Read more: http://avital.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-be-best-post-partum-visitor-in.html#ixzz1agWSyZh7
Maybe I don't remember my early postpartum days so clearly, but I would be mortified if my guests were cleaning my bathroom.
I would appreciate doing the dishes and taking out the trash though. And I would have adored anyone who brought cut up fruit and trail mix!
Maybe it's because I haven't had kids yet but I'd think that if a friend came to visit after I'd had a baby, I'd want them to sit and chat, not run around cleaning my kitchen and bathroom!
Yes - Some ready to eat and/or ready to throw into the oven food would be greatly appreciated but I don't want friends and family to become maids when they visit.
I think I would be a little weirded out about the bathroom too. But if someone just quickly wiped off the counter or saw something that needed to be done I would have been appreciative. I also appreciated when people let me know if they didnt mind me bf in front of them. I didn't want to ask people so would just leave the room but appreciated when people volunteered the info so we could keep talking while baby ate. Also I didn't mind if people stayed longer than 15 min if it was a close friend. If it was like a coworker or someone who I didn't socialize with much out of work than 15-20 min was a nice length.
I don't think I'd be weirded-out unless I hadn't just given birth and they were in there scrubbing away. I can see where the stigma this carries could prevent our culture from being more involved with new moms. I'd be overwhelmed with gratitude if my family and I were cared for in this way. I was depleted from all the visiting and baby hugging going-on and then walking my swollen legs around to clean and do laundry. I was okay after the first and second. The third was rougher. Everyone seems to think of food, but maybe it's okay if it doesn't stop there.
My big peeve was when people came over and expected us to entertain them. I had a c-section, I am NOT going to ask if you'd like something to drink. See that big box thing over there? It's called a fridge. And hey, clean up your glass when you're done...the smaller box is called a dishwasher.
Ask if I'd like something brought up from the basement: laundry, toilet paper, etc.
If we ask you to come at a certain time it's not because I pulled it out of my ass. It's because if you show up at that time the kid might actually be awake. And if he's not, don't think you're going to hold him. Always ask first. And hey, don't be late. Yes, we're here...doing "nothing"...but that's not an invitation to think that we don't know the time.
If you've known me longer than 10 years and see that my bed isn't made, the bathroom is out of something, the kitchen is a mess or you are related to me by blood or marraige...CLEAN IT UP. No, you don't have to scrub my toilet. That's weird.
These are the kinds of things I would do. But only if we were really good friends or family. Otherwise, it's kind of strange to just go in someone's house and clean up. But I have friends that would do that sort of thing for me without question...and I for them.
I don't have kids and I think that doing anything but bringing over food and chatting for a couple minutes (when I've been Ok-ed to visit, not just dropping in of course) is weird. The laundry/dishes/taking care of someone else's house, the whole 9 yards, unless you're my BFF or my sister. So this was enlightening from ladies who have been through it about what they want their visitors to do - maybe it will make me a better (or at least more serviceful) guest!
yeah, I don't want my company to clean my house. Any food gifted will be eaten and appreciated but there's no way I'd be comfortable with someone cleaning up my house. Maybe my mom could do that and I'd be okay with it. But she's my mom.
And my rule is if I'm breastfeeding when you're over and I want to cover/go upstairs/etc. it's because I'm not totally comfortable in front of you (I'm sure there will be some visitors that I will not be comfortable with, male friends, co-workers, etc.), so please don't try to take the cover off or see the baby while this is happening.
I think these are great suggestions when you are visiting a friend who doesn't have a lot of family close by, but in general, it seems like everyone I know with a new baby has grandparents and siblings doing their dirty work for the first month. I would love for my MIL to come clean my kitchen (and stay for a while), but if a friend's just visiting for 15 minutes, I'd rather them just hang out and see the baby.
I absolutely agree with a 15 minute time frame for the first few weeks, though, unless you have something else worked out with the parents. I also agree with bringing food. I have been part of lots of Mealtrain.com lists. I know people always seem to appreciate it.
@Miss Sapphire: I love this post. So true!! Especially: "If you've known me longer than 10 years and see that my bed isn't made, the bathroom is out of something, the kitchen is a mess or you are related to me by blood or marraige...CLEAN IT UP."
A very good friend came to visit with her FI and did the dishes for me. LOVE! Another good friend came for a couple days and did laundry, vacuumed, and more dishes. It was so appreciated!
But the bathroom...no. There is really no time when it is appropriate to clean someone else's bathroom. That's why I hired Maids.
This is a great education for me :) My BFF and SIL are due the end of Jan. and BFF is already telling me I MUST come see her and the baby soon after. I plan on doing so and bringing food but the trail mix/fruit idea is awesome! She and her husband run a farm so he is going to be incredibly busy doing that by himself/with sporadic help. So I know there will be very little time for cooking or cleaning to get done.
I probably wouldn't clean her bathroom but I will make her sit her exhausted butt down and let me do some dishes, run a load of laundry, hold/watch the baby so she can shower or even nap for 20 minutes.
I already have this favorited so I can come back to this in Jan. :)
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I understand bringing something nutritious over to snack on, or ASKING if you can help do anything, but if someone just started cleaning my house, I would freak out. I'm not good with having people over in the first place (working on it, but I really hate when company invades my living space) and I like having things done my way. I love my friends, but most of them do not clean their counters, dishes or bathrooms to a level I would be comfortable with in my own home, so I would more than likely just end up redoing whatever they did anyway.
I would also not appreciate someone bringing over and using household cleaners I haven't okayed when I have a new baby in the house.
These are great suggestions! I will definitely be keeping these in mind when my sister and friends have kids. I think some of the stuff depends on the closeness there is between you and the new mom. If it was my sister, I would have no problem cleaning her whole house if she needed me to and because she wouldn't ask or let me, I'll probably just do it. But since I'm close with her, I'll probably offer to stay longer and help take care of the baby so she can shower and/or nap, I know a shower is like heaven to a new mom. I know if I just had a baby and my sister offered to do that, I would have no problem saying yes! =)
ETA: on a side note, when I have friends over and I'm cooking in the kitchen, my girlfriends always help by cleaning up without asking and ask what else I need. They just want to help and mean well, no sense in being mad or insulted. I like things done my way and I'm a little bit of a control freak but its nice when people see you need help and do something without asking.
@linguo42: Definitely agree with this: "I would also not appreciate someone bringing over and using household cleaners I haven't okayed when I have a new baby in the house."
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