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    nona49    June 5, 2010  

    My FI is white/southern raised as a southern baptist.  I am Mexican raised pentecostal.  Our ceremony willl be non-denominational but I am incorporating quite a few spanish traditions overall including arras (wedding coins) in the ceremony, no unity candle, all spanish tapas and entrees at the reception and was planning on spanish guitar music.....but the reception is going to be mostly his family and just a few guest from my side....the wedding will take place closer to where he's from.  He did not want to be involved with any of the planning and he wanted me to make the wedding whatever I wanted, so I wonder if I got too carried away with the spanish theme.  My dress is a lacy vintage spanish type dress, the location is in St. Augustine florida which is the oldest city in the US first occupied by the Spanish so there is tons of Spanish history and architecture.  Should I consider using American music at the venue? Maybe like all romance music by Frank Sinatra or maybe romantic country music since all his family is country/southern?

     
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    phishgirl    May 29, 2010   Brooklyn

    lousiana? use fleur de lis.

     

    my man went to Tulane so im incorporating nawlins stuff. fleur de lis' are easyyyyy.

     
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    TobeMrsG    August 15, 2010   New York

    I grew up not far from St. Augustine, gorgeous there. Though he said he wanted to be left out of planning, I would ask him for a few song suggestions, I think by mixing it up with some Spanish and some country it would be nice. I do not want to make any specific suggestions because I do not want to stereotype him too much as even different sides of my hometown had different customs.

     
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    soontobewalsh    09/18/10   Boston

    Honestly, and I in no way mean any harm by this but I don't think you've left a lot of room for his culture at all. It sounds like the WHOLE wedding is Spanish themed. It's great that you are proud of who you are but as you know (or you wouldn't have asked our opinions) you are sharing your lives and becoming one. Could you incorporate some southern foods that would pair well with the tapas or entrees? Perhaps for the centerpieces, can you do a southern flower arrangement? What about having a signature southern beverage that will pair well with the food you have picked out? I would definitely change the music. Good luck!

     
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    Ember78    December 15, 2012  

    Have a groom's cake in his favorite flavor (does NOT have to be chocolate). Serve Southern cuisine. i agree with a PP that there isn't alot of room left to work with adding his heritage to your wedding. While he may not want to be involved with the planning, it doesn't give you free reign to make the day about you and your own heritage.

     
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    Rocktsrgn    May 22, 2010   living in Tucson, wedding in Atlanta

    Eh - I'm going to chime in here and say that the groom said that he didn't care!  So the OP went with what she knew, and it sounds gorgeous.  I'm in the opposite situation - I'm a Southerner marrying a man who's proud of his Spanish heritage, and while I've tried to incorporate some things into the wedding, he really doesn't care.  I've even asked his mom if she had any details that she really wants, and she doesn't care either.  He is her last child to marry, and I think she's over the whole wedding thing, and is dead set on enjoying the party.  I like her attitude.  :)

    Aaaanyhow, some thoughts to possibly incorporate something southern - I LOVE southern food.  Is it too late to incorporate some Southern dishes into the tapas menu?  We're doing this - basically heavy appetizers with some southern and some spanish items.  Fried green tomatoes are always tasty.  ;)  Serve sweet iced tea.  I'm not sure I'd change the music, because the spanish guitarist sounds AWESOME.  A thought is to ask his mother what sorts of things you can incorporate.  I think it's very thoughtful that you're concerned about this.

    If nothing else, you can get him an armadillo grooms cake made of red velvet.  ;)  (See Steel Magnolias...)

     
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    nona49    June 5, 2010  

    The entrees are a choice of herb crusted pork loin with olive oil whipped potatoes OR hanger steak (like flank steak) with paprika roasted potatoes OR chicken and chorizo paella.  I had it changed from the original menu to be more American for his family.  Would this be palatable for them?

    The tapas are fried calamari with salsa verde and wild mushrooms in garlic sherry (champinones al ajillo)

    The flowers I have chosen so far are baby blue hydrangeas and white roses.....I could go more Southern if I did magnolias or gardenias--both of which I adore! 

    I will work on the song list and make it more American and Country.

    We didn't include the unity candle for the ceremony because FIs relationship with his mother is not so good, and it was my understanding that the mother's light your candle then we both light the larger candle.

     
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    nona49    June 5, 2010  

    Oh my god!  I love red velvet cake!  I'll look into the groom's cake in red velvet.  Our wedding cake has the largest layer in chocolate (my FI's favorite) with rasberry filling.  The rest is in yellow cake with same filling.

     
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    Twista    October 2, 2010   Roanoke, VA

    I'm southern so this is totally my area!  You could have a dessert bar with pies (pecan and apple are must haves) or cobbler.  And you should have sweet tea and lemonade.  Have some magnolias and mason jars thrown about?

     
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    ChiCat    July 17, 2010   Chicago

    I think @Rocktsrgn is right - he didn't have an opinion, so you went with what you knew.  That being said, I think it's nice that you're trying to look for ways to incorporate his culture now, and are being sensitive to the fact that maybe it's going to be favoring your heritage more than his.  Ask him if there's anything he remembers liking from any friends/family weddings, and ask his mom for advice.  But be sure that you're not giving up something you care about for something you think honors his family, but that's not important to him at all. 

    There are some beautiful traditional southern flowers you can incorporate (magnolias, gardenias, etc), and grooms cakes are wonderful no matter where you're from!  And could you incorporate some traditional southern dishes in small plates, too?  Corn bread and biscuits go with everything!

     
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    Rocktsrgn    May 22, 2010   living in Tucson, wedding in Atlanta

    @Nona - That menu sounds delicious.  I wouldn't worry about it - there's enough there to please the most southern dude out there.  :)  And hydrangeas are pretty southern!  I wouldn't worry about changing them unless YOU want to.  Also, I don't know that the unity candle is particularly southern, so I wouldn't worry about not including it.  We're certainly not having one. 

    Basically, I'm with @Chicat - don't change anything that's important to you unless you know it's important to your FI too.

     
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    Ember78    December 15, 2012  

    While he may not care, his guests will. And it will come across to them that his heritage is being shoved out the door even if that isn't your intention at all. There's no reason that you can't have a balance to equally represent each of you. Marriage is an equal balance that is not 60/40 or 80/20 and is all about compromise. Wedding planning is simply getting practice in for that and should be treated in the same manner as far as balance and compromise are concerned.

     
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    nona49    June 5, 2010  

    I also like the idea of making pies.  I was going to make mexican wedding cookies (also known as russian tea cookies or butterballs), but as we've already determined, that would probably be going too far.  So, I'll do either mini pies or a cobbler.  We're already serving sweet tea so I'll inquire about the lemonade.

    Thanks everyone!

     
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    hopewell    July 31, 2010   Baltimore, Maryland

    You said he doesn't care - does that mean he hasn't paid attention, also?  (I know sometimes my FI tunes out when I talk wedding)  Describe the entire day to him, step by step, and you might find that you've left out something that he thinks of as obvious traditional and wedding-y but that is actually just custom in his town or his family.  Something that he and his-side guests would miss but that he hasn't even thought of mentioning.  Otherwise, I think you're doing all you can; if he doesn't want to work on planning, there's not much you can do, esp if his mother is not too involved.  One thing to keep in mind is that traditional people think of weddings as mostly about the bride - hosted by her family, designed by her and her mother, etc.  so they probably won't think it's strange for things not to be 50-50. 

     
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    mechiebaby    June 4, 2010   Malaysia / Washington DC

    @Ember: It is kind of offensive how you are telling @Nona that her wedding is wrong.  I am a white girl, my FI is Hindu, we are having a Hindu wedding.  Not a fusion wedding, not a second ceremony, no white dress, etc.  I guess you could say that is a 0/100 split, and you know what? It works for us.

    @Nona49: I think you've got some great ideas already :)

     
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    spaganya    September 4, 2010   Arlington, VA/wedding in Williamsburg, VA

    some of the stuff you have chosen can be both southern and spanish - where in the south is he from? because texas southern is much different from Georgia southern which is different from va southern...

    my wedding is a southern themed wedding (im marrying a yankee - hehehehe but he looooooooves the south, especially va.) and heres my inspiration board - as you can see hydrangeas are already kinda southern, as is lace and a few other details.

    also, definately have a grooms cake, play good foot stomping country music (or have something like a blue grass band for cocktail hour?) etc. but where is he from, cuz that makes it easier to point you in the right direction.

    How to incorporate his southern culture :  wedding My Inspiration Board

     
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    bree72    December 31, 2008  

    Honestly, I think if you're having the wedding in St. Augustine, everything you've planned sounds great.

    I think the most important aspect that might bother his family is only the reception music. I think a mix of both Spanish and Country would work great, and as for food, I would just go with what you have already. I don't know anyone in Florida who doesn't love good Spanish food anyways! 

    He said do what you want, so I agree. 

     
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    trishisadish    December 20, 2012   Florida

    I dont live very far from ST. Augustine! It's such a lovely area. My biggest piece of advice is SWEET TEA. If you are from the South most likely you drink sweeeeet tea. Dont worry as much abount incorporating 'Southern' things instead incorporate what your future hubby likes. Your menu sounds amazing... however make sure there are some non-spicy food options.

     
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    nona49    June 5, 2010  

    His family is from southern georgia/north florida (Jacksonville).  Thanks for the advice :o)  He loves the fact that I'm Hispanic, loves spanish foods, loves it when I wear something with a spanish look, he loves the culture.  so I think that's why he's let me take over the wedding (and because he doesn't care for the details)....but I haven't met his aunts and uncles yet.....we're saving that for the wedding shower 2 weeks before the wedding. 

     
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    TobeMrsG    August 15, 2010   New York

    Jacksonville area, Mayport to be exact has amazing shrimp. Maybe some fried shrimp to go with the calamari tapas? Maybe FI has even lovingly mentioned the Fernandina shrimp festival which is pretty close.

    When I go home, I demand a trip to my favorite seafood shack type restaurant so I can eat fried shrimp and wash it down with sweeeeet tea. Nothing says that part of the country like fried seafood!

     

     
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    spaganya    September 4, 2010   Arlington, VA/wedding in Williamsburg, VA

    yeah i second the SWEET TEA - and real sweet tea none of that watered down stuff or with splenda or something

    i also second the shrimp - my granny lives in the panhandle of Florida and all they do is fish fry and seafood and fried okra (Yum. now im hungry) and you cant loose if you have a pork dish.

    Also, georgia folks like Coke not Pepsi.

    the biggest thing though i would think is the music. just make sure theres a mix so people dont feel left out.

     
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    bellenga    July 31, 2010   Georgia

    I say have some appetizers including some mini servings of macaroni and cheese, some shrimp and grits (hey they're from coastal GA right?) and serve some Arnold Palmers (non alcoholic and 2/3 iced tea and 1/3 lemonade) for an elegant drink.  Some sides (nod to Louisiana) such as dirty rice, etc might be good or some collard greens too.  How about some fluffy cupcakes made out of coconut creme cake (coconut cake is so very southern!).  Two weeks ago I had the most divine cupcakes made out of coconut cake with fresh shaved coconut on top of the buttercream frosting.  My coworkers and I drooled over them and I broke my diet for it! 

    Now I love Sinatra but he is NOT southern ok?  How about some Alan Jackson or some coastal music like Jimmy Buffett?  Some country mainstream (think Lady Antebellum or Sugarland) and maybe some nashville greats?  I do know that the group "Kings of Leon" are from Nashville.

    Def have a grooms' cake.  It's our thing to do! 

    I think it's good to incorporate both cultures and to represent both bride and groom.

     
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    bellenga    July 31, 2010   Georgia

    Forgot to add...add in some fresh cornbread too!  We do love that! (I love it with some black eyed peas!) 

     
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    spaganya    September 4, 2010   Arlington, VA/wedding in Williamsburg, VA

    oh bellenga!! jimmy buffett +alan jackson = Kenny Chesney!! :) i love him :) *swoon* :)

     

     
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    bellenga    July 31, 2010   Georgia

    Ooooh Kenny.  Love me some Kenny!

    We're having a steel drum band and I am loving the fact that they're going to play both Jimmy, Alan, and Kenny (it's 5 o'clock somewhere!).

    Yep.  Def add in some Kenny! 

     

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