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My husband had his bachelor party at Dave and Busters. They had a blast =].
Can't you just tell your friend, "well actually my mom really wants to plan it.....will you help her out?" then she can like, bring stuff. Family trumps friends when it comes to this sort of stuff. She'll have to undrstand your mom and sister REALLY wanna do it. Just play it like "i'm sorry, i didn't know they wanted to do this, but now that I know, I have to let you know this...." which is awkwardly phrased. But you know what I mean.
Ditto ejs. Just let her know that they're really excited and could really use her help. Go from there.
::sigh:: I know, that's what I need to do. So family trumps friends in this party department? I didn't know. Then again I've never been to a bridal shower other than my sister's and her FMIL hijacked the damn thing when she wasn't supposed to :( Never been to a bachelorette party so I have no idea how that goes.
I'm not having a wedding party so I think that makes it more complicated otherwise I'd just say the MOH gets to host.
Well i just mean that if your mom and sister want to throw you the party, the bridesmaid needs to back down...because it's, in my opinion, the mom/sister's right to claim dibs basically. Especially since your bridesmaid isn't exactly respecting your wishes. The MOH does often host it (in my case, she hosted WITH my mom) but my mom REALLY wanted to do it so I made sure it was dually done. But your MOH isn't even listening to your wishes....
I think family definitely trumps friends in this. I don't think your friend will be mad if you just tell her mom/sis are insisting on it and have started planning already. Just ask them to let her help if she wants.
Since I'm not having a wedding party it's just a friend who wants to do it.
Now, the question is, would it be chicken shit of me to just email and tell her what Mom and Sis came up with over the weekend and told me about or do I actually call her? Reason I ask, I'm afraid she will try and tell me I can have two parties for each event (some people have mulitple parties)...and if she did say that then I'd like to have some time to think about what I'd say instead of on the spot over the phone.
Etiquette-wise, your mother and sister shouldn't be throwing your shower. It should be someone who's not related to you, so it doesn't look like your family is asking for gifts.
But, if it's important to your mom and sister, I think it's fine. I personally would never be offended that someone's mom was throwing their shower.
Why not have two showers? Your friend could throw a themed shower, like stock-the-bar or "board game night" or something that's inexpensive but fun.
LaborOfLove: Only problem, the same exact people would be the ones coming to both. It would be kinda of strange to have it twice. I really don't have many people to invite. It sounds bad, but I literally have one actual friend in this state (her), some aquaintences but they aren't invited to the wedding, and don't work with women and all my family lives 5.5 hours away and wouldn't come---this I already know.
What is "stock-the-bar"?
Though I know about the shower/gift/no relatives rule I think the bachelorette party is the one that your mom shouldn't throw but the shower is okay. I feel like the bachelorette party is supposed to be about your friends and your FI's friends if you are doing a joint one but if your friends either don't want to throw you one or aren't willing to throw the one you want you shouldn't have one. I'd also be against having the same people throw two parties - more or less identical in guest list and purpose. It just seems a little strange to me. So I would have your mom and sister plan one party and let your friend plan the other. It is perfectly fine to give guidelines and say what you aren't comfortable with. Just IMO.
Ok, if you don't have a lot of people to invite i'd let it go then. Stock the bar is where everyone brings a bottle of liquor for the new couple's "bar", or barware.
What if you and her just did something special? That might be all she's really looking for!
Arachna: Well it's not really that my mom would throw me a bachelorette party, it would be more like everyone in the family gets together and goes out to celebrate that my FI and I are getting married. Maybe I should have worded it that way. We never had an engagement party so not that we would call it that, but it would just be to celebrate my FI and I are getting married. I gave her guidelines and told her I didn't appreciate a bar and the typical bachelorette scene and it appears she is choosing to ignore my wishes so I'm trying to figure out a way to have something else.
LaborOfLove: Oh, well, he's really the only one who drinks anything and it's mainly beer and it's not really stocked all the time in our house so we probably wouldn't benefit. The main reason why the idea of a bachelorette party, done the typical way, is not keen to me is because I have one drink and I'm done. I'm a cheap date ;) HAHA I barely ever finish a glass of wine. Just don't care to.
I think if my friend wanted to just do something special with me then she should just say so. She is also including her friend to help plan it and I barely know the gal so that makes it strange for me too.
I know etiquette generally says relatives shouldn't host, but I think that rule is definitely bendable in this situation since your mom and sister actually know what sort of party you want and your friend is probably going to throw you a super generic "last night of freedom" party. Well, etiquette also says that you can't invite the same people to two different parties like that because it seems like you're gift-grabbing and honestly it seems really blatant that you're just looking for gifts if you do that sort of thing, at least to me it does. I think you should do what you're comfortable with and either e-mail or call her and just mention that your mom and sister surprised you by telling you they'd already planned one and have reservations (even if they don't) and that they're not refundable deposits.
OMG etiquette is about to drive me crazy. I'm not gift grabbing. Let me please remind that I never initially wanted any of these parties, but now I'm just trying to come up with a different alternative to my friend's "typical bride parties" she is wishing to throw that I don't enjoy. I don't see how etiquette would say inviting my sister or friend to my bridal shower and my bachelorette party is wrong. I've never heard of that and from what I've seen that "rule" is broken by basically every girl I've known/read about their experience on this website. I don't have a large group of people here so if both of these "parties" were going on I know they would hope to be invited. I think it's ridiculous that I will look bad and that I'm gift grabing if I invite these people to both.
I think the fact that your friend is trying to throw you a party AGAINST your wishes (as in the TYPE of party you want), means it's perfectly acceptable to take away her "opportunity" to throw said party.
She's being disrespectful by not respecting YOUR wishes. And if those wishes will be attended to by your mom and sister, so be it.
My mom helped throw my bachelorette party...it wasn't weird at all. If anything, she got points for being "so cool" and all my friends like her anyways.And I don't see how it's weird to have them host a whole "day" for you, with the shower and bachelorette party all in one day. In fact, MOST of my friends have had parties done in this same manner. It's just feasible to do it all in one shot when people are traveling versus separate stuff.
I know lots of moms and sisters who host parties for their daughters...I think those etiquette rules are so outdated nobody thinks about them.
I don't think she means the bachelorette and bridal shower, but as i suggested (before you discussed it more) having two showers. And the etiquette about your family not hosting your shower is because to others it could look bad because your family traditionally are the ones hosting the wedding... it's a little old school but that's how etiquette is sometimes!
I think you need to be upfront with your friend though. If she's trying to plan stuff with some girl you don't really know, that's kind of sad, but I think it has more to do with her being excited to do something to help you celebrate. Try to let her down gently :)
Yes, I do mean the bachelorette and bridal shower. My friend wanted to throw both and my sister now wants to throw the bridal shower and collectively the families will throw us a party for my FI and I getting married. I should have never said they were throwing us a bachelorette/bachelor party because that's not what it will be.
LaborOfLove: Why would I want to have two showers when the same people are going to be invited? I don't have a large group of people I know to split them up. I think if anyone thinks it's "bad" for a family to throw a shower for their daughter/sister/granddaughter then that's just---plain stupid and I think it's kind of snooty. Where I come from people are not all caught up in that stuff and would never think twice that someone in the family was throwing the bride her shower/other party.
I'm killing this thread.
Forgive me if you covered this somewhere else...
...but why can't you just tell the friend you're not into all the parties, and certainly not the typical bachelorette stuff?
It's ok to not want the cookie cutter "experience" she wants to give you. What do you mean when you say "she doesn't want to hear it" ? Like she jokingly shuts down? If so, maybe an email IS in order wher eyou just honestly say "thanks but no thanks, we are having an unconventional celebration instead and we hope you can come."
Seriously, honesty is the best policy!
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I've posted once before how my "best" friend wants to throw me a bachelorette party and bridal shower, but she doesn't want to know what I would prefer to do and what I'm comfortable with. I'm not into the bar scene, veil, peenie straws, "Lick for a Buck" LifeSavers covered shirt, etc. I'm not really into bridal shower corny games either. Thank you to those who commented on that post.
However, now I'm in a position that my Mom and sister really want to throw me a joint party at the fun restaurant/arcade game place called Dave & Busters in Denver. We would invite our families (although we know his parents won't want to go) and our very small group of friends and have dinner and celebrate that my FI and I are getting married and play games and have a good time. I hear a lot of pepole like to do joint parties there instead of separate. My FI also isn't interested in a party for just him anyways so he likes this idea.
There's also the bridal shower---my sister knows of a great gift shop/flower place that has a nice area set up for tea parties and desserts and I guess it's a beautiful place and hope I get to see it soon. Since I'm not really into the typical bridal shower with corny games (that's just my opinion, no offense) I think it would be fun to go to this place.
Soooo, how do I tell my "best" friend who doesn't seem to want to know what I want to do that I would prefer if my Mom and sister took the reigns? She would still be invited of course!