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Oh, I am right there with you Miss B. I am soooo tired... and yet I feel as if it's worth every second of yawning! Now you have to understand, I'm a HUGE fan of the movies, even though I've never read any of the books. Huge fan as in, to me, Harry, Hermoine, Ron, Snape, Malfoy... they are all real people to me. I'll never meet them, and I know this, but somewhere, somehow, they are real. Now that being said...
OMG OMG OMG!!! How could Snape do that???? I always thought he was just a hard-ass with a secretly soft heart, how could he do that to Hogwarts? Dumbledore trusted him, just like HP said... I want to believe in my heart of hearts that Snape really isn't a bad guy.
I feel like I just watched a 2 and a half hour preview... I feel like there is so much more, and I missed it! And who the heck is R.A.B., and why does he have a piece of Voldemort's soul? Why would anyone want a piece of the dark lord's soul? I feel like I have so many questions, and no answers! Like the cave Dumbledore took Harry to... why that cave? What was that place? And why would Voldemort chose Malfoy? What does Bellatrix Lestrange really have to do with anything? Why aren't Hermoine and Ron "snogging" yet? (That's such a cute word!) Oh, and in OoP, the whole POINT was that Voldemort was back... and they don't show him once? What is he up to? Ahhhh!!!
I feel so emotionally drained today. LOL
I'm bumping this... I know there are more bees out there who watched it last night! :)
Miss Snowflake -- I take it you haven't read the books. Some of your questions are clearly emphasized in the book (and may not be clarified in the final movie either). A few answers that are pretty important: Bellatrix is Narcissa (Malfoy's mother)'s sister and for what it's worth Voldemort's 'love' (or as human companion he can have). Also, the cave was actually a cave that Voldemort took a few kids from the orphanage when he was young. That was actually pretty important because it means that Horcrux's are in places that were important to Voldemort. As far as "where is Voldemort?" all those things in the beginning... the tornados, the bridge collapsing, etc is essentially his work. Voldemort is hiding low and the Death Eaters are out on the rampage. He "chose" Malfoy simply because he was Lucius's son. If you saw the paper headlines in the beginning, you will see that Lucius is in jail so basically Draco "replaced" him... but in the book they make a point to say that Voldemort expected Draco to fail and it was basically punishment for the whole family. Phew, I think thats the biggest points from the book that were neglected in the movie!
The rest of my post is serious full of spoilers though but I am DYING to talk to someone about this!
As far as my thoughts. I loved loved LOVED the movie. Best yet, by far!!! There were two things that kinda bothered me: 1 - The Burrow getting burned. That never happened in the book and seemed kind of irrelevant to the movie (they never commented about it later or anything... wth?) 2 - Fleur and Bill's relationship. This is pretty important for the final book in several places (the wedding... shell cottage). I can't believe they left that out!
However, the WHOLE entire part with Draco was BRILLIANT. Tom Felton ROCKED in this role. So believable... you could really see his pain and agony in the "assignment". He became so real in this movie.
And even thought I knew the end, I BAWLED like a baby basically from the cave on. When Dumbledore was talking to Draco and Draco says "He'll kill me!" I was literally convulsing in tears trying not to make noise! Then when Snape hushed Harry it was even worse.
So good! I wonder if I can convince my FI to go again when he gets back from his OOT work assignment!!!! Yay!
Sigh, I know, I should read the books... but when I haven't been wedding planning, I'm in school full time, and I just never found the time to read them! Maybe I should start with HBP, and then read Deathly Hallows... I just feel like I watched a really long movie trailer! But thanks for clearing up a few points for me, some things TOTALLY make more sense now!
I totally agree, I really liked Draco in this movie... Felton seriously has an awesome career post-HP ahead of him. Dangit! Now I feel like I need to read the books... and plan my 3-week-away-and-counting wedding! AH!
I loved it. I loved how they captured the emotion, suspense, and darkening of the plot. I cried, cried, cried when youknowwho dies.
Despite what others say, I loved how much they included about everyone growing up--the emotions of dating, etc. It made the progression more real, because that's what 16 year olds think about!
I'm not a movie reviewer or Harry Potter freak, but made it in my top two of the HP movies!
Saw it. Disappointed. I was really bugged by how much it deviated from the text, how little they got into the Dumbledore/Harry relationship and the details of the horcruxes, and how much they left out (like what the other objects are/might be!). Wondering how the heck they're going to cover this stuff in Deathly Hallows 1 and 2.
Anyone else not thrilled with the film?
@lattelove -- I agree about the emotions of growing up. For me, the books are meant to be read as you grow up .. meaning a 10 year old really shouldn't read all 7 in two weeks because the content matures as the story does.
@bruschetta -- I thought they did a pretty decent job of what the Dumbledore/Potter relationship (with time constraints in mind). I somewhat agree about the Horcruxes... like how is Harry going to know about the other objects? But - I just can't shake off the thing with the Weasley house... and Harry & Ginny in the field... So random! Oh and I thought that they should of done a little more with Lupin and Tonks's relationship as well as Bill & Fleur.
Really though, I think it stayed just as much aligned with the books as the rest of the movies did!
I agree with Bruschetta, I wasn't the most thrilled with this one. I still enjoyed it a lot, but then I had to hear my FI rattle off a laundry list of everything that was left out. He's not a big reader so seeing the whole paring down the plot for the movie thing is new to him 
I am used to seeing this happen to books I love, and I actually think the HP movies generally do a really good job deciding what to take out and what to leave in, compared to a lot of other book adaptations.
It really didn't bother me at all that they left out the Bill/Fleur or Tonks/Lupin stories. What I am wondering for the last movies is how they are going to deal with Dobby's role. When they started making the movies they cut him out pretty early, not knowing that he was going to be so important later.
I totally understand why they left out the big Hogwarts battle with the Death Eaters... they didn't want it to be too redundant with so much of the last movie going to be battle scene. But, I thought it was a silly choice to have the Death Eaters come to Hogwarts at all if they were just going to watch Dumbledore die and leave. They could have saved some time just doing that scene with Draco and Snape. Then they would have had a bit more time for the penseive stuff to build the Dumbledore/Harry relationship as well as a lot of what they left out re: young Tom Riddle was pretty crucial stuff.
See my argument for Bill & Fleur is that their relationship is so important in the final book. The wedding getting crashed... Shell Cottage as a "safe haven"... not to mention it REALLY explains how dangerous Fenrir Greyback really is... in this movie they didn't really outline how truly important he is (explaining he is the reason Lupin is a werewolf and, in turn, Bill).
I hope they can add those details into the final movie as one of the best parts of the last book is how just about everyone who was mentioned in the first 6 books makes an appearance at some point or another. It would suck if Fleur wasn't included.
we're off to see it in 2hrs... what, the Burrow and Bill & Fleur.... geez i hate directors/script writers that stuff around with novels. its a best selling novel for a reason so why change the ********* storyline!!!!
ok.... seen it and left somewhat disappointed
whats with the 15 second spot the characters moments.... oh look theres Nevile (what the heck, he was Slughorns waiter) oh look, there he goes. oh look, theres Mr Weasley oh look, hes gone too - same as Mrs Weasley. oh look, theres Hagrid but there he goes not to be seen again.... i felt like they all had their 15 second grab to get them in the screenplay and that was it - heck, Lavender was almost the star of this movie. and i would have liked to have seen Draco suffer with is decision a bit more (hence the moaning mrytle scene in the book)
oh, and i dont get the point of burning the Burrow scene at all - what was the point?
I think they did the character "spots" to keep them in the movie. For example, Neville is pretty important in Deathly Hallows so they needed to keep him relevant. Hagrid just didn't have as much a role in this story as the others, nor the Weasleys. So that didn't really irk me too much.
Yeah, I still can't get over the Weasley house scene. SO random... I literally was looking around the theatre trying to see if anyone else thought it was weird because I was so confused.
I know I'll bawl when "he" dies. I cried and gasped (along with my son) when we were listening to it on cd during a long trip.
We both "grew up" with these characters. My son thinks she's such an amazing writer. There was a cool show on travel channel last night "the real world of harry potter" and showed where JK might have gotten her real life inspiration for locations, characters, and scenes. Even the school! (it's in scotland and hundreds of years old and its founder was a REAL wizard!)
I enjoyed the movie, but I can imagine that if you haven't read the books, it could be really confusing. They left out a lot of information that I thought was really important (among other things, that understanding Voldemort and his history and how he thinks is the key to stopping him), and sets up the finale. I'm not sure how they're going to explain in the next movie how Harry knows what things are horcruxes since they left out all of the memories and the history. Also, the more I think about the ending, the more it bothers me. I know they're going to have a long battle scene at the end of the final movie, but I always felt that the battle scene in book 6 set the kids up as resistance fighters and not just as students. I also think that not immobilizing Harry as they did in the book made him act out of character, because, even though he gave Dumbledore his word that he would do as he said, I find it really hard to believe that he would choose to stand there and watch him die when he could move and do something about it. And the missing funeral.... I just found the ending in the book so much more emotionally powerful than the movie. Maybe I was expecting too much since I loved the writing at the end of the book! I did like the movie itself, but I just wish I knew why they made the story choices they did! And I agree about the Burrow. It didn't make much sense at all. The whole story just felt a little rushed to me. I wonder if there are a lot of deleted scenes.
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I actually rolled my eyes after all the teen love angst stuff...Harry and Hermione in the scene with her canaries. It seemed to be making a mockery of stuff that JK Rowling had carefully written out!
I loved it. I do agree some bits were left out but that is why you have to read the books in order to fully understand what's happening. I did not start reading the series until I finished watching the fifth movie. Then I watched each film after I read each book. It made A LOT more sense to me!
Bellatrix Lestrange is Sirius' murderer. That's why Harry wanted to get to her so bad. He wanted to avenge Sirius' death. The book ended without readers knowing who R.A.B. is.
I didn't realize Bill & Fleur were out of the book until I read some of the posts on here!
Also, was it just me or did the character for Mrs. Weasley change? It didn't seem like her. I guess I'm off to imdb.com to check it out!
okay okay so i not only sat in the rain for 8 hours but also suffered through a 10 hour work day the next day and saw the midnight showing on Tuesday. As an avid reader slash lover slash harry potter obsessor i was disappointed. The movie lacked so much that the book had, and there were so many HUGE differences or things that were missing that to me made the story line just a little off... I hope that they can make up for all the things in the following movie but honestly i feel a bit let down.
I was disappointed. Like a lot of you, I felt that they left out A LOT of details that are important to the plot line. Too much emphasis was put on the teen romance when more focus should have been on Harry and Dumbledor's relationships, and the horcruxes.
Like Crayon, I thought the ending of the book was MUCH more powerful than the movie. I was a sobbing mess at the end of the book, and didn't shed a tear yesterday when I watched the movie. EVERYTHING makes me cry, too. I think at that point I was just thinking, "meh."
It did make me want to reread HBP, though.
Jennarationnext -- I agree. Too much teen romance and not enough of the actual plot. I did read somewhere that the HP saga is competing with Twilight teens so they have to incorporate more of what the now-grown up Harry Potter audience will like. That and most of the HP movies left out a lot from the books. They just can't fit all of that into a 2-2.5 hour movie.
actually I thought that there was more teen romance in the book that was left out!There was a lot more with Ginny and Harry's relationship.
Also -- I think its ridiculous people are saying that HP is competing with Twilight. Half Blood Prince was filmed and finalized before Twilight was (Twilight actually wasn't supposed to come out until 2009, it actually took HP's opening date so HP could be a summer blockbuster).
I didn't love the movie, I enjoyed it but there was alot of time wasted with the teen romance and scenes not in the book. I totally don't understand the burning Burrow and the scene in the field...it totally wasn't in the book and it didn't seem to be relevant to the movie either, I was so confused! It was really strange to me that there was so much focus on the love triangles, there were so many more important things they should have focused on! I think it wasn't properly explained what a Horcrux is and the type of objects that would have appealed to Voldemort. They didn't even explain the significance of the ring! Without explaining Voldemort's history you lose crucial information.
I really think they should have kept the part where Dumbledore immobilized Harry, as if Snape telling him to "shhh" would have been effective. Snape and Harry have a horrible relationship, he'd be the last person Harry would have listened to in that situation.
There were so many glaring oversights...like no Bill & Fluer and I think they should have included the funeral.
When the Burrow burned down I actually threw my hands up in the air like "WHAT!" - why did they put that in there!!!??? AND I was soooooo sad not to see Bill and Fleur. I went with my husband, who has not read the books and he was a bit confused. There so much subtley implied that you realllly have to be paying attention.
DId anyone notice that there was virtually no mention of the ORDER in this movie? odd....
also I TOTALLY agree with it completely out of character for Harry to not try to help dumbledore. Thats why he was immobilized in the book!! Its been clearly stated Harry has a bit of a hero complex. (although i did love the look and the "shh" Snape gave harry - it looked to me like Snape really was torn and tortured over what he HAD to do)
I'm a huge fan of the books , but the movies have been really lack luster for me , they just leave out too much , and hen add stuff that "didn't happen". What is up with the non pink haired tonks???
Ok finally got to see it, and I was not disappointed. There have been enough of the films now for me to understand how and why they cut parts, and for me to accept the films for what they are. I have loved the books from the very beginning, and have loved the films for allowing me to see certain things come alive. Personally, once the relationships began to get more complex and numerous in the books, I realized that there is just no way for them to really elaborate them in a 2 hr movie. There are just so many characters, that it would be impossible to fit them all.
With that, I do think the house burning/Ginny & Harry in the swamp scene was random, and did wish that the funeral was included, but I am really happy that they are making the last book into 2 movies. There is just so much to tell, and I'm hoping 2 films will allow all of the relationships to pan out!
and @ Miss Snowflake: you REALLY need to read the last book. How can you stand not knowing what's going to happen? :)
I havent read the books and found it .... long.
I dunno - guess i was disappointed.
I had the exact same issues as many of you. I really wished they had included more Tom Riddle stuff, as well as shown the relationship that develops between Dumbledore and Harry more. The closeness and trust that Dumbledore and Harry have is so important to the seventh book. This movie also left out all of the Harry vs. the Ministry thing.
I also found it weird that Dumbledore did not immobilize Harry, as the books have shown time and time again that Harry will rush to his loved ones' aid, no matter what the consequences. Voldemort even takes advantage of that tendency in book/movie 5 by luring him to the Ministry under the pretense that Sirius is being held there. It was totally out of character for Harry not to run up there with Dumbledore.
I also thought WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! at the part where the Burrow burns down.
What I did really like is that the books are actually very funny a lot of the time, and I thought this movie captured the humor of the books well. I also really like the way they depict Hogwarts and the other magical scenery. I think in the early movies, it was more childlike and fairy-tale-ish. I love how the kids wear normal clothes in the movies now, and how Hogwarts looks.
I loved the movie. I think though, it's partly because I've come to expect that the movie will never be the same as the books. They will leave a lot out, and add little stuff to make the movie flow.
At first I was also really bothered by Harry not being immobolized at the end, but then I reread the book and I *think* I understand why they made the movie that way. In the book, they explain that it's possible to cast spells without speaking. I believe they took this out of the movie(?), and at the end, that is how Dumbledore immobilizes Harry (as to not alert Malfoy someone else was in the room).
I'd say I liked, but didn't love the movie. I thought they cut out a lot of important parts--like the battle at Hogwarts at the end and Dumbledore's funeral. I realize the movie can't cover everything, but I thought these were imporant scenes and wished they showed them. I was also with Ms. Bruchetta--was totally rolling my eyes with the Ron/Hermoine romance. I liked it in the book, but thought it was a little melodramatic in the movie. I thought that a lof of the "kid stuff" took up too much of the movie--the quidditch and the romance stuff. I guess they have to keep that in there, and don't want it to be too scary because, at the end of the day, it is a kids movie. Overall, I wished it had been a little better, but I liked it.
Took the kids to see it this weekend and I was SO disappointed. Granted, it was a long book and they're not going to hit every detail, but how could they miss such big ones?! I know they want the books and the movies slightly different, but in this case they'll have to make the last two movies COMPLETELY different unless they're going to resort to flash-backs. Grr.
I'm glad I saw it, but it was frustrating. After the movie I had to explain SO MUCH to FH and the kids.
Sorry for the rant, but - what is up with grown adults going to a 3:10 pm Saturday showing of a KIDS movie (I know HP has expanded to the masses - but it's a KIDS MOVIE - that's why all the previews were for retarded other kids movies and not adult ones) and complaining that there's kids there? I couldn't believe how rude some adults were about my kids being there. It's not like they were bouncing off the wall or talking the entire movie (like the adults right behind me), but somehow they thought they could complain. Go to a LATE show! That's what I do when I don't want to be in a movie with kids! Geez!
I enjoyed the movie, but I was definitely disappointed by a few things, especially the random burning of the Burrow. I'm also a huge Tonks/Lupin fan, so I was disappointed in how little they were in the movie, though I do understand that they needed to trim a few things. I really would have liked to have seen the big Hogwarts battle and the funeral...maybe there will be some deleted scenes when the movie comes out on DVD?
I enjoyed the movie a little less than I would have liked. However, all the others have really grown on me and I am certain this one will too in time.
I also was a little wtf at the burning of the Burrow; however, I see why they included it. They needed to show how the Death Eaters' rise to power was affecting the Weasley family. In the book this was done by showing the heightened security measures around Harry, the intrigue with Scrimegeour, and ultimately the werewolf attack on Bill. But Bill's attack lacks emotional impact unless you have the setup with him and Fleur and the whole family hating her, which in turn gives depth and resonance to the love story between Lupin and Tonks. In the end, the Weasley family is hurt but not beaten, bands together closer than ever, and Tonks and Lupin reconcile. On screen, the burning of the Burrow accomplished nearly all these purposes a great deal faster and a great deal flashier. I too would have liked to see the full story, but we may have been in the theater another hour for that to be the case. (You wouldn't see me complaining though!)
Does anyone think it is possible that they are putting the funeral in the next movie? I noticed that at the end of the movie, Harry is in Dumbledor's office and picks up Dumbledor's wand. Wasn't he buried with his wand? Maybe they just decided to tack it onto the next flick.
As someone who has read all the books, albeit when they came out so not that recently, I was dissapointed. I felt like even having read the books I was having a hard time following and remembering what exactly was going on. Not to mention the fact that my FI hasn't read the books and kept whispering questions to me and I HATE WHEN PEOPLE DO THAT IN MOVIES and I nearly killed him. The experience was lackluster at best for me.
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I saw it last night and am now suffering the consequences through work today. :) For those who have seen it, what did you think?