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    Miss Tattoo    September 15, 2012   Pittsburgh, PA

    So what did you think about it if you went to see it yet.

    I knew they were going to cut it at the the part where Dolby died. That was sad.
    I know in the last movie I complained about them rushing the story. I mean the first five minutes of the movie covered the first five chapters of the book. It was kind of uncomfortable to watch. In this movie, I kind of wish they rushed a little bit of the story. The camping parts of the book were very long and they made it very long in the movie.

    I do feel like the acting was way better in this movie than it was in the last movie. The struggle with Ron was very heartbreaking and I was even pissed for him at the part with Harry and Heromine kissing from the locket.

    I didn't like the part in Godrics Hollow. They didn't come in visable in the book and just walk around town. And Voldermort was suppose to show up there.

    At the beginning Hedwig died from being hit with a curse while she was still in her cage. She wasn't trying to protect him and the reason why he gave himself away was the trademark disarming spell. And weren't they suppose to land at TOnks parents house? I can't remember. It's been a little while since I read the book.

    In the next movie, I HOPE they follow Snapes chapter exactly. I feel like that's one of the most important parts of the book. His story brings EVERYTHING together and I will be so disappointed if they skip out on it.

    I am also glad they split it into two parts. There was no way they would have fit everything into 2 1/2 hours if they tried.

     
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    vanilla frosting    September 23, 2011   Philadelphia, PA

    I liked the movie, but like you said, I feel like it went SO SLOWLY!  I understand the beginning of the book was really slow too, but STILL!  My FI and I were talking on the way home from the movie about how long the last one is going to have to be to cram everything into it from the end of the book.  They still have 3 horcruxes to find and the whole battle scene at the end!

     
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    bakerella    September 11, 2010   Toronto, ON

    We went to see it yesterday afternoon. I haven't read the book since it first came out, and I didn't re-watch the movies beforehand. SO given that I couldn't really remember what happened in the book vs what I saw in the movie, I enjoyed it. And I cried a bit when Dobby died ;)

    That scene with the locket was intense and I thought the Harry/Hermione stuff was pretty racy! Go Harry! LOL! Everyone in the theatre started laughing when he got Hermione to dance, he was just so awkward, I'm not totally sure if that was supposed to be funny though......

    I'm looking forward to seeing the next one, I really enjoyed this one and the two and a half hours went by really fast for me! I totally agree that I'm glad they split it, I think the story is too complicated to try to cram it all into one movie. Overall, I think they did great with the whole portrayal of the franchise of books. I like the darker edge they've given to the last couple of movies, the first ones were too typical to me. It's hard to make a series that huge and pull it off without the whole thing looking "been there done that" after the third or fourth one.

     
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    I loved it. Oh, and the bride in me went 'Oh look, chiavari chairs!' during Bill and Fleur's wedding :) I couldn't believe the 2.5hrs were up already. I kept wondering what point they were going to break the movie up. Just watching it made me remember how I went to buy the final book when it came out that summer and reading it at work when I was supposed to be working :) I can't wait wait wait for the last one even though I'm a bit sad that it means it's all ended :(

     
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    BanditGirl    September 10, 2008   Canada, eh!

    OK - here are my thoughts ...

    That scene with destroying the horcrux and Ron seeing Harry and Hermione in that embrace was a bit much.  Would've been just as effective if they weren't half-nude. 

    The scene with Ginny's bare back, asking Harry to zip up her dress.  Ummmm ... was that really necessary?  I could see her saying "Will you get this button for me" with a zipped dress.  I think that would've been just as effective.  I didn't need to know that Ginny didn't have a bra on.  And, we get it that Ginny and Harry have a thing for each other.  No need to sexualize these two ...

    I love, love, love how they told the story of the brothers through the paper dolls rather than live-action dream-type sequence.  Very creative and powerful! 

    One thing that DH said was "how do they know what horcruxes to look for?"  He hasn't read the books - just seen the movies with me.  The horcruxes were not spelled out at all in Half-Blood Prince.  When I saw Half-Blood Prince, I really couldn't wait to see the scenes where Young Voldemort went to these people to procure their items.  One of my favorite chapters was the memory that Dumbledore had from the woman who sold Helga Hufflepuff's cup to Voldemort.  I would've loved it if they showed the items Voldemort used for horcruxes.  So, one thing that a person who has only seen the movie would not get is how do the trio know what the horcruxes that they're looking for are. 

    I enjoyed the movie.  I loved the settings, the costumes, everything.  As for it moving slowly, well .... that's how the first part of the book moved!! 

    Oh - the scene where Fleur changed into Harry and had the bra on was hysterical!!!  I just wondered why they gave her such a matronly looking bra, though!  You'd think a young French girl would be wearing an ooooh-la-la bra!

    Adding that DH had to ask about Bill.  They totally threw that in and didn't explain the werewolf attack, why his face was scratched up, or anything.  And they glossed over the fact that Tonks and Lupin were married and she was expecting.  If you didn't know iit, you would've totally missed the little hint (which was barely a hint). 

    And, since this is the Wedding Bee, I loved Fleur's wedding dress!!!! 

     

     

     
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    This has to be the best one yet!!! I've already went to see it twice.

    I liked they let Hedwig fly instead of putting her in her cage, the minute i saw that I thought thats such a better idea than keeping her in her cage.

    I absolutely LOVED the dancing scene. It came off so funny and innocent and it was great to Harry comfort Hermione without a single word. 

    It was really nice to see Ron talking and speaking up for himself more, and I love how he interacts with Hermione. Especially went he returns cause of all the sucking up he does to her. You can tell he loves Hermione so much and when how fustrated he was to have to hear while she was being tortured. In fact that was hard even for me to hear.

    But my absolute favorite part was how they renacted the tale of three brothers. That was so incrediblely well done and I was really curious to see how would they added that story.

     
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    bakerella    September 11, 2010   Toronto, ON

    @BanditGirl: Fleur's wedding dress was GORGEOUS! I leaned over to DH and said so, and he looked at me like I was nuts ;) As per the bit more sexual content in this one, I think it's actually somewhat appropriate to show that they're growing up, gone through puberty, moving on with being "real" teenagers. They're not 12 any more. I appreciate that they're not avoiding these topics.

    @Koala Bear: Agreed. I loved the tale of the three brothers, the style totally enthralled me. I'm definitely going to go see it again.

     
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    I absolutely loved it!  This movie is right up there with #3 for me!

    I think that having Hedwig flying around was much better than keeping her in her cage. When I saw that, I was wondering why J.K. Rowling just didn't write it like that in the book.  I mean, she is an owl that can fly, so I thought that made perfect sense, and I feel like her death was better protecting Harry than just accidentally getting hit by a curse.

    And I thought this movie followed the book very well. Of course the director used a little artistic license to make it more sexy/funny, but didn't stray too much from the book.  At least not like the 6th movie (which was pretty bad).  And I didn't mind the sexy parts.  The audience has grown up with the characters, and there is a lot of sexual tension in the books, so it wasn't too misplaced.  Maybe Harry and Hermione didn't need to be nude during that horcrux part, but I still didn't have a huge problem with that.

    I agree the acting was sooooo much better. They're definitely coming into their own as actors now.  And I also agree that if you didn't read the books then you would be a little lost.  My BF hasn't read them, and he was asking a lot of questions.  But I don't see it as a bad thing.  I think the majority of people watching these movies have probably read the books and appreciate following the books without giving a lot of background that we already know.  The people that haven't read the books should get it together and read them before the movie. Smile

    And I was definitely crying when Dobby died. That was heartwrenching.

     
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    BanditGirl    September 10, 2008   Canada, eh!

    Fleur Delacour's wedding dress appears to be a copy of an Alexander McQueen dress.  Check out the link:  http://www.realstylenetwork.com/index.php/celebrity-style/tag/fleur-delacour-wedding-dress/

    I so want this dress!  Not for my wedding ... too late for that ... but I do have a few charity events I need to attend and this dress would be perfect!

     
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    bakerella    September 11, 2010   Toronto, ON

    @BanditGirl: Oooooh they're phoenix's. Riiight that makes sense. I thought they were peacocks, LOL! In any case, gorgeous gorgeous dress and I like the HP version better than the Alexander McQueen one ;)

     
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    BanditGirl    September 10, 2008   Canada, eh!

    @Boston Bee: re. the nudity ... would you have felt differently if you were with your 10 yo DD (or niece, or sister)?  My 10 yo DD has ripped through the books and loves them.  I have read them as well.  Let's face it ... the majority of people have "grown up" with Harry Potter and, granted, the first movie came out 10 yrs. ago and the books have been out longer.  But, not all kids "grow up" with them.  My DD ripped through the first one, and has continued through them.  She hasn't had to wait the years inbetween books like the older kids have.  So, it still needs to be kept in mind that not all kids have "grown up" with Harry. 

    Also, the books weren't racy in that sense, either.  And the HP movies have been pretty docile, as far as sexuality goes, up to this point.  I mean, in my DD's eyes, Harry doesn't think of girls in a sexual way, you know?  Adding nudity for the sake of an older audience isn't always necessary to have an effective movie.  Would the scene have been diminished if they were clothed? 

    Yes, I know the movie is rated PG13, but even at 13, and not all content is suitable for a 10 yo.  But, that nudity wasn't in the books, so why bring it out now?  Was there really a need for it?  I don't think that the characters needed to be portrayed nude to have an effective scene.  Why the need to bring nudity into the movie when there wasn't any in the book?  Sexual tension, sure ... nudity, not so much!

     
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    BanditGirl    September 10, 2008   Canada, eh!

    @bakerella: I like Fleur's longer version better than the Alexander McQueen one, too! 

     
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    2shy2Bbf    July 4, 2011   Louisiana

    I was kinda annoyed before I even went into the theater.  I only saw HP movies 1-4 and vaguely remembered them so I did a wikipedia search to get a synopsis of each movie. 

    My awesome plan

    1. Watch "Order of the Pheonix" via cd in-house on Friday night
    2. Watch "Half Blood Prince" via HBO's On Demand freezone on Saturday morning
    3. Steps 1 & 2 would have me totally up-to-date and ready for "Deathly Hollows: Part 1"
    4. Unfortunately, HBO randomly decides that "Half Blood Prince" would not be available to watch on freezone on Saturday morning....I went to the "Deadly Hollows" missing an entire book and had to read the synopsis!!!!!!!!!!  Arghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

    The Deathly Hallows movie was kinda slow for me.  I would imagine that the writers are withholding all the excitement for Deathly Hollows: Part 2.

    Ron annoyed and worried me at the same time. 

    Am I the only one who would prefer Harry Potter to date the bleach blond chick...the kinda weird one (weird is the only adjective I could think of....sorry)?

    I did love the "Tale of 3 brothers" story.  It appears that Valdamort found the exact wand used in that tale.  Am I wrong?  

     
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    @2shy2Bbf: About 'He Who Must Not Be Named' finding the wand, you are right and you are wrong... you have to wait for the next intallation. And I guess you haven't read the books especially 4 through 7. Harry and Luna... ha ha. I've always always seen him ending up with Ginny.

     
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    yellowhammerlady    September 15, 2009   Alabama

    I've read Deathly Hallows. I knew what was going to happen to Dobby. Did I cry anyway? Of course I did.

    Loved Fleur's dress and the Tale of the Three Brothers. Didn't like the Hermione/Harry makeout or Ginny's dress scene. In the book, I believe Ginny invited Harry into her room to "talk" and they ended up kissing. Ron (and Hermione, I think) walked in, and Ron read Harry the riot act.

    Harry's birthday party was in the book. Molly made an awesome snitch cake.

    Also, it was in the book but not the movie--Viktor Krum was at Bill and Fleur's reception. He's the one who connected Grindelwald with the Hallows. He told Harry that the mark of the Hallows was Grindelwald's mark.

    I can't wait for part II. We left off at Voldermort breaking into Dumbledore's tomb and stealing the Elder Wand.

     

     
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    egb    January 2010  

    I loved it, but was also a bit disappointed... The book is long, and they had to make two movies, that's fair enough. However, I think that there are essential elements that they decided to forego, and given that the book is split in two movies, they could have kept these elements in. The movie would not have been longer, they would have just needed to make camping scenes shorter, and not that much.

    - Hedwidge did not save Harry
    - Harry did not attend Bill and Fleur's wedding as himself
    - They spend months in the Order's headquarters and build a bond with Kreattur, which becomes important in the second part of the book
    - Huge parts about Harry's doubts about Dumbledore and his life were cut
    - All the Godric's Hollow part was not accurate
    - And other stuff.....

    I feel like they should have put all that stuff in, and the fact that they didn't makes me think that with all the omissions, they might as well make only one movie. It felt like it was two separate movies only to have people pay twice to see it - Seeing only this one, you know it's an incomplete story and it doesn't end there...

    On a side note, I also really hope that they do well with Snape's story; he's my favorite character. I think it would be really cool to have a book just about him!

    But, I'm a HP fan and I enjoyed seeing the movies. Actors are great; all of them!

     
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    azula    February 27, 2010  

    The movie was fantastic, probably the best of the HP movies. Though of course it wasn't without its changes, but for the most part they were well-done and didn't mess up with the story.

    I wish we could have seen the handshake goodbye between Harry and Dudley. I heard it was filmed and will be in the deleted scenes of the DVD release (along with Viktor Krum at the wedding and other things). I wish they'd shown us Luna's room with the painting that said 'Friends" in gold. I wish they'd shown Harry taking Mad Eye's eye from Umbridge's office door. I wish they'd shown Wormtail's silver hand choking him to death. I wish we'd seen Harry using the invisibility cloak at least once. And I wish they'd had Voldemort killing Grindelwald at the prison instead of letting him live.

    But aside from that it was a pretty awesome movie. I liked Hedwig's death scene much better in the movie than in the book; it seems more suitable to her character that she died trying to protect Harry than trapped in a cage. I liked how they handled all the camping scenes. I liked the way the scene at the Ministry of Magic happened. The torture scene at Malfoy Manor was perfect, if a bit rushed. Poor Hermione, I thought Bellatrix would only cruciate her but instead she carved "mudblood" in her arm! Dobby's death scene was just as tearjerking as I imagined it would be. The Tale of Three Brothers was gorgeous. I loved loved LOVED seeing Hermione obliviating her parents. It was so sad!! I'm so glad they actually showed that as opposed to just talking about it, like in the book. I loved the awkward little dance between Harry and Hermione when he tried to cheer her up. It was a very cute scene, and you can see the sadness in her face, how she's missing Ron so much. I loved the doe patronus and the whole locket horcrux killing scene, it was absolutely perfect.

    So yeah, I loved the movie. Can't wait for part 2! :D

     
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    bree72    December 31, 2008  

    I really enjoyed it and can't wait for the last film! 

    I loved seeing the Deathly Hallows story told the way it was, as well as Dobby's participation and death. I think the actor's did a great job of showing how lost and desperate they all felt during a lot of this book, seeing as they really didn't know what they were supposed to be doing for so many months. 

    I didn't really feel the nudity was necessary in the horcrux scene, either. 

    The only thing that really bothered me in the end, though, was that I felt that the moment where Harry takes Draco's wand should have been given a much more dramatic scene, seeing as it is such important part of the ending. They barely showed it in the movie. 

     
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    reinab505    April 2, 2011   Indiana, US

    After walking out of the theater cussing about how much I hated Half-Blood Prince, I wasn't expecting much. I have to say I loved this one though. Yeah there were changes, but I was ok with them and it gave me something new and unexpected.

     
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    finnaroo    August 7, 2010   DC (living in nyc now)

    i really, really liked it and thought they stuck to the book really well. the only thing i wondered about--and maybe this comes through in the 2nd part--is they haven't really covered the dumbeldore back story about his sister and friendship with grindewald. hermione found the rita skeeter book, but they haven't dealt with much of it yet, and i thought that was really important to the plot line. harry's feeling so lost and confused because he's questioning not just if he knew dumbeldore, but if dumbeldore was even trustworthy to begin with. i mean, maybe they'll cover it with the 2nd part, but i thought a huge part of harry feeling lost is that he doesn't know if he can trust anything dumbeldore ever said.

     
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    I loved the movie and even though I'm a huge fan of the books, I wasn't bothered by the slight changes the director made to the story. I didn't think it felt slow, but I think it was important to show that this task (of finding the horcruxes) is enormous and isn't easy. I didn't really like that it just seemed like they were camping and hanging out - they were supposed to be reading and researching and discussing ideas throughout the story. Perhaps if there was more discussion about all that, it wouldn't have seemed to long. At this point in the book, however, I believe that Harry and company knew what they were looking for (an object from each of the founders of Hogwarts and other objects important to Voldemort), as well as a little more about Dumbledore's history, and none of that was really explained in this movie.

    I also really loved the three brothers sequence, but I was also wondering why the trio never seemed to use Harry's invisibility cloak.

     
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    ja7975    May 29, 2011   MA

    I'm a HUGE fan of the HP books, but after the first two movies, I've been really dissapointed with all the movies.... till now! Yes, they left out a couple things and tweaked some others put for the most part they stuck to the book and I am SO happy about that! I loved the Tale of the 3 Brothers too and even though they changed some of the Godric's Hollow stuff around, I loved the scenes with Bathilda Bagshot especially when she turns into the snake which is hands down the creepiest scene in all the books.

    In part 2 I really hope they make sure to tell us Dumbledore's history and Snape's story. They are both critical to the whole series I think.

    I cried when Dobby died, was creeped out when H&H were shiney and naked, thought the dancing scene was so sweet, and I will be the sole dissenter and say I did not like Fleur's dress. I loved all the scenes in the Ministry of Magic. I do wish they had shown Harry find his mother's photo and ripped letter in Sirius' room and I wish they had used some sort of flashback to show Regulus' story because that was so poignant in the book. They also should have taken the 30 seconds it would require to explain quickly that Voldemort's name has the Trace on it.

    All in all though, I loved it and can't wait for part 2! I wanna go see it again!

     
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    In the media    June 29, 2013   Indiana, but wedding in St. Louis

    I read thebook right before the movie so I was that grump-puss that shook my head as things went differently (but in a lighthearted way) but as it turns out, I think this was the best movie yet. The humor saved it and Ron, oh Ron (if you were only older and I wasn't with my BF, and the Ron character was actually real), you are so lovely.

    I would have liked to have seen Tonk's parents and Dean (while on the run with Tonks's Dad and the goblin.) And I was sad not to see Remus come and beg to go with the three on their mission.

    I could have done without that ridiculous naked locket scene. They could have been clothed and making out and had it been just fine. And the graphics when Hermione was telling the 3 brothers/Deathly Hallows story. Why the weird graphics? Why not use real people?

    OH, and when they apparented from Xeno's house and were immediately snatched? That was ridiculous. They didn't even say Voldy's name.

    All in all, it was wonderful and I plan on going to see it again on Tuesday or Wednesday.

     
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    @In the media: IMHO, the animation in the "three brothers" scene was used as a device to show that the legend may or may not have been a real story with real people. I really enjoyed it, it reminded me of the animation in the movie "Coraline."

     
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    ceamoste    September 3, 2011  

    @bRooklynRocks: Haha me too! I was slightly jealous!

     

    My personal thoughts - while it seemed to go a little slow, I did notice a LOT of stuff missing from the books, but I guess it's important to remember that they have to appeal to those who haven't read the books as well.

    I personally loved the movie. I started crying like, 2 minutes in when Hermoine had to use Obliviate on her parents. I continued to cry when they tortured Hermoine. Then I bawlledddd like a baby when Dobby died. Like, I didn't blink for a good 10 minutes cause my eyes were just watering. Thank goodness for a dark theatre. N didn't even know :P

    I agree that the naked scene was a bit much (or a lot rather), but Ron performed amazingly in that whole scene.

    Favourite part? When Ron gives Harry the new wand, and he uses Engorgio on the candle. Haha what a laugh.

     
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    ceamoste    September 3, 2011  

    Also, I would like to add that Daniel Radcliffe is a horrible dancer in this movie. I nearly peed myself laughing at his moves.

     
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    @ceamoste: lol that was a great part! Heromine walked in like WTF is going on in here! They jumped back and their faces when the flame shot up was crazy!

    I also whispered to my FI that I wondered if the Weasley's paid $9.50 a chair for the wedding scene. He had no idea what I was talking about.

     
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    centralcoastbride    June 17, 2012   San Luis Obispo, CA

    I loved it! I was expecting it to be slow because that is how the first part of the book is. I can't wait for the second part to come out! All the action and...well I don't want to ruin it for the people who haven't read the book Smile

     
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    I also loved the part where Hermione says they should visit Xenophilius Lovegood and Ron tries some butt kissing by totally hamming it up "All those in favor of visiting Luna's father say Aye!"

     
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    plantains    July 17, 2011   Live in NY, wedding in CT

    @bRooklynRocks:

    How funny, this is exactly what my FI said and I laughed at him because I have been harrasing him about chiavari chairs for months now!

    Back to the movie though, I absolutely loved it. It was just so delicious, beautiful stunning and wonderfully acted. I got that sensation that I only usually get from the books and haven't had from any of the movies so far. The feeling that I am witnessing something special. Next summe cannot come soon enough.

     
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    SouthernGirl    October 2013   Alabama

    It had been a long time since I've read the last book, so I didn't notice a lot of the missing stuff. I intend to re-read it before the second half though.

    I'm asking for the entire book set for Christmas : )

     
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    I had a feeling this one would be a little slower, but they worked it well.  It ran the risk of being boring since most of the main action is in the latter half of the book, but they did a good job making a story out of one half of the book. I did predict that they would cut it after Dobby died. At first I thought it would be after the locket, but it made more sense after Dobby died/before the action really starts moving and Harry is more motivated.

    Parts I wish they hadn't changed:

    1.The ones OP and PPs mentioned, plus:

    2.He didn't say goodbye to Dudley, like in the book

    3.Why did Dobby come back to Grimmauld Place with Kreacher?

    It also really reallyl bothered me that Harry and Hermione were visible in Godric's Hollow--that is one of the most dangerous places he could have gone! They took the precautions in the book! I would have loved to have seen (seen?) more Invisibilty Cloak.

    I hate that they made so many changes--in some book to movie situations that may be ok but I feel like with the following HP has, we want it to be the same. When you take a shortcut, you have to find a way to make it work in the end. JK Rowling made it so that every single detail plays a part and to change anything risks changing the outcome of the story. I hope they end it correctly, even wth all of the changes.

    The acting was definitely the best yet! I will say that I liked how they kept random jokes/bits of dialogue from the book. I cried when I saw the Doe patronus, knowing who sent it...

    I definitely think it is helpful to have read the books because I can see how some of it may have been confusing otherwise, like the horcruxes and Bill's werewolf side.

    I'll definitely be really sad after the last movie. That was a HUGE part of my childhood! Friends, family, and I have gone to all the midnight movie showings since the 3RD MOVIE!!!

    @yellowhammerlady: Yeah, I was thrown off by the Harry/Ginny zipping up dress part--it was in her bedroom and they kissed and Ron walked in.  Harry went on to tell himself that he would have to avoid Ginny, and this was a recurring theme in the book until the end. And Krum! Gah! So many omissions!!

    @egb: I also agree that with separating the book into 2 movies, they should have kept all the other details.

    @azula: I read an interview with David Yates--he said that Emma Watson had the idea of having Bellatrix carve "mudblood" into her arm herself!

     

    Overall, LOVED the movie! I'm sure I will see it again!!!

     

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