Post # 1
My FI and I are a little over one year out of school. We graduated in May of 2012 and started our first full-time jobs in our chosen careers in June and July of 2012. FI is a civil engineer and I am a pediatric nurse at a large teaching hospital in Iowa. We both truly enjoy our jobs but have large goals – I want to be a professor at a college of nursing and he wants to be an executive of a company (not necessarily engineering, although that would be ideal). His current engineering office is one branch out of three in a small consulting firm. He has expressed to his HR rep and managers his career goals, and they have brought in other engineers that are higher up to mentor him. Today he met with one of the more senior engineers who told FI that he would like him to move to the central office, which is where the president of the company does his business, so that FI will be able to be mentored by the president of the company and learn the inner workings of management. Eventually, FI could have a substantial pay raise (50-75%) if he becomes one of the managers or executives at his company. That would be about 3-5 years from now. It sounds like a great opportunity and if FI and I decide this is best, we will be moving to the state capital and about two hours away from our current home, where both of our families live.
The issue at hand is whether it is worth it professionally for me. Our options are to either move in the next couple of months (very quick turnaround on getting a job for me), or in a year. If we move in a year, I’d have a little bit more experience and it would be slightly easier for me to get a job. If we move now, I think I’d have a little more trouble. Additionally, the children’s hospital where would be moving is not nearly as good as the one I currently work at, so I’m not sure if I’d be as happy as I am now. I’m currently enrolled in a Master of Science in Nursing program in nursing education so that I will be able to teach at a lecturer or clinical instructor level, and I will pursue my doctorate after I finish my Master’s, which will be in December of 2015. A great option for me after I graduate would be to work at the university affiliated with my hospital, which is where FI and I graduated from and is in the city in which we currently live (along with our families). Before I get my doctorate, my salary would stay pretty much the same, however after receiving my doctorate it would increase by about 50%. Neither FI and I are set on staying where we went to school/where our families are, but it is definitely a great option.
My concern is that if I were to leave the organization to move with FI, for 1-2 years, and then return to teach (FI would likely have a leadership at his current office at that point), would my chances of getting a position in the College of Nursing here be less likely than if I were to stay in the organization for the duration of my schooling? Does it look bad to hold positions for only a year at a time when you are this young (23) and so fresh out of undergrad? I feel like I would look uncommitted, and that is concerning to me! I’m also concerned because FI isn’t sure if he wants to do management in engineering, and is going to be starting an MBA program within the next year, which would give him the same education opportunity as being mentored by the president of his company.
Sorry if that was a novel – I just would love some advice on what other Bees would do!
Post # 3
I know someone who teaches in communications. He has a doctorate and he told me that most universities want to hire people who have graduated from other schools. They rarely hire from their own programs. I’m not sure if nursing is the same though. Are you wanting to teach at the same place you’re going to school? You should ask about this.
I’m an RN, but I don’t know about what universities are looking for when it comes to hiring professors. I would think that the longer you work somewhere the better, but most places understand if you had to move for your husbands job. That’s different than leaving just because you don’t like your job.
Post # 4
I don’t think changing your job early on due to relocating would/should affect how a hospital views you. However, unless I read your post wrong, you are planning to teach in the next 2 years, right? I’m a RN working on my masters, and working in a Teaching hospital- and I haven’t encountered many (if any) professors with less than 5-10 years actual ‘nursing experience.’ I know you mentioned clinical instruction- which is a great option, I felt I was able to learn along with my students because I was a relatively new nurse at the time with only 3-4 years experience. With the job market down in the dumps for nurses lately, I would just try to be mindful that in nursing, experience is key- and while leaving a job for whatever reason happens, maintaining a working environment as a nurse for a reasonable amount of time will improve your credibility and knowledge as an instructor/professor. Having a couple of jobs in a couple of years on your resume doesnt mean you wont do well, you may find working in different hospitals garners you different experiences and learning opportunities. Just be honest at interviews about your situation. You have amazing goals, and good luck with them! The world of nursing is in desperate need for more educators- you sound like you have a passion for it:)
Post # 5
I’m a new nurse who wants to go into teaching too. I haven’t gotten to talk with current profs like I would like, but the general thing I get is most schools don’t hire their own grads as teachers. I work a floor now, am looking at getting into our infusion center to do chemo stuff and then maybe dialysis and home dialysis teaching, then a masters. A few years of experience in different places isn’t bad, you didn’t jump from one hospital to the next in a couple months, many of my profs had a few years in this, a few years in that, until they decided what they wanted to do. Though I am curious what the general conscious is on how long one needs to be in practice before being a clinical instructor/ adjunct prof.
Post # 6
I dont know what the current economy for newish nurses in Iowa is, but if you post this on the general nursing section of allnurses.com I’m sure you will get a ton of responses from nurses who have good advice.
i am in a area of the country where it is extremely difficult for all nurses to get a job, so if I were you I would move halfway in between the two jobs and each of you can have a hour commute. But, Iowa is probably vefind different than the state I live in.
Post # 7
@MrsLJones: I’m currently working for the hospital affiliated with the university where I did my undergrad, but I’m getting my Master’s from Duke University, so it would be partially different. That’s a good tip though! Thanks for the help.
@sofetch: What about lecturer positions? There are different ranks of faculty, from what I’ve seen, and saw that clinical instructor and lecturer are kind of on the same level, and then you have assistant professor, associate professor, and professor which are all doctorate-level positions. Let me know if you’ve heard anything about just a plain lecturer!
Thanks for the help, ladies!
Post # 8
I’m not sure about that, I was thinking more of classes like medical surgical classes where the lecture professors usually have some years under their belts. But… A class like ‘Intro to Nursing’ would probably require less experience and allow for a professor/lecturer who is passionate about teaching and being a nurse. Sometimes it helps students relate (the ‘tradional’ 18-22 age) when they have someone they feel could relate to them. You can always work your way up- and a lot of professors I’ve had maintained a per diem or part time nursing job. That way you stay relevant while teaching. Good luck!! 🙂
Post # 8
Hi, I realize this is an old thread but I am curious as to what the OP decided! I am from Iowa, specifically Des Moines, and although I currently live on the east coast I am contemplating moving home and starting nursing school. (I have a BA in English from University of Iowa already) I was curious as to what you know about the hospitals in Des Moines or the outlook on the job market in Iowa in general? And do you enjoy nursing?