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    naticakes    September 15, 2012  

    So, I'm not pregnant yet, and we don't plan on having kids for a couple of years, but already I'm feeling pressure about this. There's a long-standing tradition in my husband's family that the first-born son is always named after the paternal grandfather, and the whole family- m husband included- just expects me to go along with it. I have a few issues with this.

    1. I think it's really naive and also selfish that they just expected that whatever woman married their son would just go along with this and not have any opinions or traditions of her own. The mother carries the baby for 9 months- that's a strong bond. Why would she suddenly give up all say in her baby's name?

    2. I really don't like his father's name at all. And it's a name that will most definitely get our son picked on in school.

    3. While I can appreaciate that my husband says his dad would be honored if we did this, I really want our kids to have identities of their own. I really think that being his grandfather's namesake heavily influenced my husband's choice of career, even though he denies it. 

    4. I have a father of my own who would be completely ignored by this tradition. His name is a family tradition too. He's also  the last male of his line- I don't have any brothers or male cousins to carry on the family name. So my family's already losing our last name, while there's an abundance of male relatives in my husband's family. 

    5. It's a foreign name, and my parents and other family members can't even pronounce it properly. They wouldn't be able to say their own grandson's name.

    I really don't know what to do. I've offered my husband the option of using his dad's name as our future son's middle name, but he wasn't too fond of that idea. He has said that, while it'll make him sad not to follow the tradition, he'll eventually get over it. But I know that his family would completely resent me for it, since I've already heard from multiple people that I'm expected to do this. Nobody even asked me for my opinion, and I know that I'll resent my son's name and my husband's family if I stick to this tradition.

    I'm already feeling so much pressure, and we're not even trying to conceive yet. Does anybody have any advice? I'm really starting to dread talking about haivng kids, and I've always wanted to be a mom.

     
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    GreenEyedMoon    January 14, 2012   Dallas

    Your husband has said he would get over it.  You and your husband are the only opinions that truly matter.  If your husband's family wants a relationship with their grandson, they'll get over it, too.

     
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    Sassygrn    June 4, 2011   Minnesota

    I have to agree with what the PP said, your husband is just going to have to get over it and only opinion that matters is his. 

     
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    AprilJo2011    April 9, 2011  

    Oh boy, I hear you!  My in-law family has similar traditions. There has to be, at all times, a John and a Thomas in the family.

    My advice would have been the middle name option, but you already tried this. :(

    Stick to your guns on this one. This is YOUR child, not theirs! Maybe you can suggest absolutely ridiculous names throughout the pregnancy, so they will at least be relieved when the kid ends up having a normal name, even if it isn't the name they wanted.

     
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    TheFutureMcBride    August 2010   Virginia

    What's your Dad's name tradition?

     
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    Mrs.KMM    July 17, 2010   Atlanta, GA (wedding in Indianapolis, IN)

    @GreenEyedMoon:  Totally agree.  OP - you and your husband are the only opinions that matter and if he'll get over it, who cares what the rest of his family says?

     
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    bearlove    July 1, 2012  

    Yup, totally annoying, especially the additional relatives (not your DH) who bring it up.  My FFIL mentioned that I "must" name kids after his parents.....talking to FI later that day I gave my list of reasons that isn't happening as well, many of which match up with yours. I also just 100% resent being told by someone that I "must" do anything, particularly as it applies to my future children. Screw that. In the end only you and your DH get any say in your children's names and that is how it should be.

     
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    Crabbabs    September 8, 2012   Madison, Wisconsin

    I'm sure you thought of this, but you could always use it as a middle name. Your in-laws may be disappointed at first, but it is only you and your husband that make the final decision. 

    Thankfully, we don't have to worry about this tradition with FI's family. The tradition was on both sides (female and male) - basically the first born male is named after the father, the first born female was named after the mother. FI's older siblings already went against that. 

     
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    MrsMeNow    September 18, 2010   Wisconsin

    There are seriously so many scenarios here, I wouldn't worry too much. Maybe you will have more then one boy, you could use it as a middle name. Or maybe you will have girls:) Try not to stress I am sure when the time comes you and your husband will come up with some compromise.

     
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    GoldfishPie    February 2015  

    Just because I'm morbidly curious, would you mind sharing the name with us?

     
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    naticakes    September 15, 2012  

    @TheFutureMcBride: My dad was named after his grandfather (first, middle and last names), and he has several cousins with that exact same name, as well. He told me about the tradition when I was very young, but never pressured me to continue it. In fact, he even told me not to name any of my kids after him because he dislikes his first name. And my mom's family has a similar tradition, where all the boys get the same middle name, and several have my grandfather's first name.


    I guess I mostly just hate being told what to do, especially in relation to our kids. And I see my husband's sister and cousins all happily naming their own babies whatever they want, and it makes me furious that they can enjoy that one minute, and then tell me that I have to name my baby after his grandfather the next. 


     
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    HappierKate    September 29, 2012  

    Is he Italian?  That's totally an Italian thing too, if not (depending on where in Italy your family is from).  My sister's FIL graciously accepted the middle name compromise because they wanted to name their son after my grandfather, and everyone on both sides was "shocked" by how "generous" he was.  How is it generous to allow someone to name their child without interference?  Beats me.

    They might not be happy, but if they make a fuss I'd start pretending you don't plan to have kids at all so that when you have kids they're just so relieved that they let you name them whatever you want without complaining.  

     
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    naticakes    September 15, 2012  

    @GoldfishPieI wanted to, but my husband knows that I'm obsessed with Weddingbee, and it's a pretty distinctive name. He sometimes does Internet searches for the name to show me how far back it goes, and I don't want this to come up. But I can tell you that the first name is the exact same as the last name. My baby would have the same first and last name. It's unfathomable to me, like the parents ran out of ideas or something.

     
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    naticakes    September 15, 2012  

    @HappierKateNo, he's not Italian. His family is Lebanese, but my husband was born and raised in the States. And I'm Brazilian, so I had never heard of this tradition before. That story you told about your sister, that exact thing would happen if we used it as a middle name. They would all be extremely upset (and it's a huge family, so that's a lot of people that would be angry at me), talk about my "poor" husband for having a wife who doesn't respect his family, and I would always be the outsider who ruined a generations-old tradition.

     
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    daybyday    November 11, 2006  

    This is your and your husband's choice alone. Maybe share those reasons with your husband and emphasis the fact that you want to establish yourself as your own family unit.

    Also, I'm also dying to know. What is the name?!?!?

     
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    TheFutureMcBride    August 2010   Virginia

    @naticakes:  I understand that it's hard to figure out names, especially when there's so many traditions coming down to you. My paternal Grandma actually broke my Granddad's family tradition because she didn't want to go along with it. I'm pretty sure it cemented a rift between my Great-Grandma and Grandma. I'm not saying this to sway you, just stating a fact. My maternal side actually has a middle name for girls, but I wasn't first born, so I didn't get it. Honestly, I really wish I had a tradition to pass on, but I don't. I think, when you're ready, you should dit down with your husband and have an honest conversation about all the traditions and if there's a way to bring them together if you both want that. Names are hard, but kids are even harder.

     
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    chasesgirl    December 30, 2011   East Texas

    Yeah... that is a sticky place for sure. Personally I have always wanted to name my future children a combo of my grandparents names, but because I want it, not because it is exspected. I think that you and your DH need to figure out what YOU TWO are okay with, and just not tell his family till the baby is born and named. But I would say, that if it is this big a deal before a baby even exsists in any form other than theoretical, if you use the name as a middle name then I would exspect his side of the family to call your child by his middle name anyway.

     
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    Aisling10    June 23, 2012  

    I agree....a birth is a chance for your child to assume their own identity...I'm going through the same thing.  My FI has said to me on numerous occasions, in a very matter-of-fact tone, "you're ok with us naming our first son D---- right?"

    me: .............................................

     
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    naticakes    September 15, 2012  

    @daybydayI really wish I could share it, but I don't want my husband to see it. Like I explained to a PP, he's done Internet searches before to show me how far back this name goes. It's the exact same first and last name though. So, for example, our son's name would Johnson Johnson, or Williams Williams. That part drives me nuts.

     
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    naticakes    September 15, 2012  

    @Aisling10Isn't that so annoying?! It's like, how can anyone just make that assumption?

     

    @chasesgirlI actually wouldn't even care anymore at this point if they did do that, if it kept them from interfering so much. His family is very close-knit, which is a good thing most of the time, but they're always in each other's business all the time, and nobody can make a decision without everybody else knowing about it.

     
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    Bichon Frise    June 2012   NC

    I agree that you should decide with your husband on a new name for the baby. Just because it's tradition, doesn't mean you have to do it. It is selfish of the family to assume that you will do everything they say.

     
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    TheFutureMcBride    August 2010   Virginia

    @naticakes:  Oh, my husband seriously wanted to name a son, if we have one, something similar think Bride McBride because an ancestor had that name and did something in a battle or something. I actually laughed at him, but I easily won since it wasn't a tradition. Tough situation. Still, sit down and talk your way through this.

     
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    Aisling10    June 23, 2012  

    I know, I feel like replying with "as long as you're ok with naming our daughter Foghorn Leghorn" Laughing

     
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    Bubu82    October 1, 2011   Indianapolis, IN

    Hey, cheer up, maybe you'll have a girl instead. :)

    But in all seriousness, I really don't understand where people get off making such demands about what YOU will name YOUR children. It's so presumptuous! I wonder if people have always been this way? I would think rather than dictate what someone else should name their kid, you should just keep your mouth shut and let them name him/her what they want, and be thrilled if they decide on their own to make any part of the child's name the same as yours. After all, naming a child after someone else is an honor, not a right, and it's an honor that should only be bestowed lovingly by the parents, not begrudgingly because of tradition.

     
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    naticakes    September 15, 2012  

    Actually, I tried another compromise too- if you get to name our son all on your own, I get to name our next kid all on my own. He said absolutely not and looked so shocked. And I was like, hello...isn't that what you're trying to do?

     
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    naticakes    September 15, 2012  

    @Bubu82I couldn't have said it better myself. I wish it had been presented differnetly, like you said, as an option rather than a demand. Maybe then it wouldn't have ruffled my feathers so much. I think it would be hilarious to have all girls. His family is very much traditionally Middle Eastern. They cry if a family doesn't have sons.

     
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    ladyartichoke       UK

    My family has a similar tradition.  A name that's been passed on from first-born son to first born son for about 250 years.  However, that doesn't mean it's always used as their first name.  Could you use it as a middle name?

     
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    naticakes    September 15, 2012  

    @ladyartichokeI offered my husband the option of using it as a middle name, but even that didn't seem like enough, I guess it's all or nothing in his family, which is reall sad to me.

     
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    chasesgirl    December 30, 2011   East Texas

    Of course another opinion of something I just remembered from when my parents were trying to name me. My dad's mom died when he was in HS and he REALLY wanted to name one of his daughters after her and my mom wanted us to have our own identies, so they didn't. I now really wish they had because it was much more unique and personal then my name, which I grew up with a minimum of 2 other people in class with, up to EIGHT of us in one of my freshmen level classes. Just a thought, but I still totally agree it is up to you too.

     
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    kay01    May 27, 2012   NH/VT

    Everytime that a family member of his brings it up respond calmly with similiar lines, "Should we have a son, my husband and I will keep both of our family traditions in mind when choosing a name."  Rinse and repeat.  You need both of you on the same page with responding to queries.  You never know - maybe you will only have girls and this worry will all be for naught!

    @naticakes:  lol!

     
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    redheadem    September 30, 2012   NYC/MD

    I'd be really upset if FI was demanding this! I'd say "Name the baby that you give birth to whatever you want!" But really, don't worry about what his family thinks. They will always find something to be upset about.

     
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    relaxedabout it    January 1, 2013  

    redheadem: i ALWAYS say that. i'll name the ones i give birth to and you name the ones you give birth too :)

    but, really, everything is about compromise. he has to see it from your side, too!

     
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    35thannidaughter    June 15, 2001   Glendale, AZ

    Have you considered giving him the family name, but calling him by his middle name?  For example, his name is Johnson Andrew Johnson, but you call him Andrew, and he will be know by Andrew at school.  That way, he still has the family name, but you are able to use the name you choose.  

     
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    HappierKate    September 29, 2012  

    @naticakes:  Wow, you don't even get to name the next kid all on your own.  Harsh.  kay01 has a great line there, with the "Should we have a son, my husband and I will keep both of our family traditions in mind when choosing a name." 

    Have you talked to FI about why it means so much for him to continue this tradition?  Is it to keep the connection to his father?  Maybe he felt connected to his grandfather growing up and wants that for his son.  If it's just to keep his family happy, that's something you can put your foot down on entirely, but I'd be more sensitive about it if it has a deeper meaning for him and defend why you think the middle name is a good compromise that achieves that goal.

     
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    chouette    November 9, 2013   AR

    Have you thought about just having the child go by his middle name his entire life? Or even a 'nick-name.' My fiance's family has a tradition that ALL males have the initials J.R. so that doesn't give me a lot to work with but I've picked some things out that I enjoy and about half of the J.R. names go by their middle name.

    I also had a friend whose mother (I'm guessing) wanted to name him after his father but the entire family calls him Otto. Otto isn't his real name, not even close, but that's what EVERYONE calls him.

    I'm a pretty traditional person so if someone's family has a long standing tradition I would like to follow it. As you're joining their family just as much as you belong to yours and just because they might name the child after your SO's father doesn't mean you can't name your child after yours. Some of my cousins have two middle names for this exact reason.

     
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    justelope    December 30, 2011  

    Yeah, I like the idea of calling him by his middle name, but giving the family name.  It should be a choice between you and your husband, but I do like the idea of using a family name.  It means a lot to have those types of things.

     
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    GreenEyedMoon    January 14, 2012   Dallas

    OP, could you post a link to a page that has the actual name in it?  That way, this thread won't show up on Google, but our curiosity will still be sated.

     
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    cdncinnamongirl    October 2012   Ontario, Canada

    I think the way to approach this, as PP's said, is for the decision to rest with you and your partner, not his family.  Having said that, I do think both of you need to respect each other's feelings and opinions on this issue and find a workable compromise that both people can accept.  Yes, we BIRTH the babies.....but that wouldn't happen without their "contribution" so I believe that both parents should have 50-50 say in the names of the child.  

    I like your suggestion of using it as a middle name.....I know that he isn't fond of that at the moment, but maybe stress to him that that's a compromise for both of you?  

     
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    orvis18    August 12, 2011   Boston, Ma

    We have the same issue right now and I am currently pregnant. My husband is named after his father, great uncle, and great great grandfather and my FIL is insistant that we use the same name. Luckily, I don't mind DH's name but I do hate his nickname and I've already made it clear that we will not be calling our child the same thing.

    I told him we could compromise about the nickname or we could use the middle name as the first-those are the options if we're going with his name. I think he agrees with me but feels so much pressure from his father about keeping everything the same. My strategy now is to tell his family that we aren't using his nickname because I want our child to have his own identity and it would be too confusing to have the three of them share the same name. FIL isn't thrilled with this but he's going to have to deal with it. 

     
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    Janna19    June 7, 2008   New York

    That is annoying, and I would take your husband up on the fact that he will get over it.  His family will too because once the baby is born, people will be much more focused on the baby than the name! And once you are pregnant, and this is all reality, your husband will probably be even more willing to let go of the tradition.  its hard when it is all theoretical, a bit easier when he sees his wife pregnant with his kid, and is probably more likely to want to make you happy :)

     

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