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So today SO and I were talking about getting engaged, and he mentioned how he would like me to lay off with all the wedding talk, which I agreed to do since I do talk about weddings sometimes too much. Anyway, if he would've left it at that, we could've had a great evening. But he had to take it farther, and this is the reason why I'm pissed off.
He went on to say that the year we were in a long distance relationship didn't really count, and that us living together felt like something entirely different. And I mean yes it does feel different, but I think that first year counted for something. If it weren't for it, I would've never moved to be with him. And he says this on the day we're supposed to be going out on a date for our two year anniversary. But it gets better. He goes on to say that he isn't sure if he wants to get married now, but has a date in mind to propose. Two very contradicting statements that I pointed out to him. He then says he is sure, but sometimes when I mention getting married it throws him off. I find this funny though since he was the one who brought up taking me to a wedding show the other day without me saying anything about it. So by this point I'm pissed and now he's acting like there is something wrong with me for being upset.
But I told him I can't do this anymore. If we're not engaged by next month, I'm leaving. I'm done putting in the work of acting like his wife and cleaning and cooking for him. I'm moving out next month. I told him this and I think he thinks I'm bluffing, but I'm serious. I have enough money saved to pay for a one way ticket back home and will use it if I have to. Especially considering we talked about this before I moved in with him and he knew that one of my requirements was we get engaged within a year of me moving in with him. Now he wants to change it suddenly. Argh, I'm so freaking angry!
I absolutely understand how upset and frustrated you are. He told you that it would be within a year and now he is changing his mind. It sounds to me like there is something else going on in his mind though. Have you sat down with each other in a calm and non-defensive way and talked about all of this? Have you asked him what his reservations are and his reasoning behind trying to move the engagement back a little bit? I think threatening to move out in one month is a little harsh personally. You just hit two years together which really isn't a long time esp. with one year of that being long distance and there may be a very legitimate reason that he is worried or holding off on proposing right away. I absolutely understand why you are upset but I think you need to try and work things out before just leaving!
I can understand why you're upset, and I know a lot of people on here are fans of timelines, but I feel like one month is pretty short.
I realize you already gave him the year timeline, but, I guess it me so quickly saying "a month or I'm done" is likely going to lead to giving up on a relationship, or pushing him into something he isn't ready for. A ring is really so important right now that you are willing to give everything up if you don't get one in a month?
I don't know how old you are, which might be important, but to me 2 years really isn't that long, especially if on was LD.
@theredhead: I think I know what his reason is. I still haven't gotten my permanent residency here yet, and I think he's afraid that we'll be separated again because of that. But honestly, I told him before I moved in with him that I wanted to be engaged before I applied for that since it was a big undertaking, and one that I wouldn't take unless I knew we were on the same page. And I thought we were because the other day he was telling his friend about how we were going to build a house together and that he wanted kids with me, etc. So yeah this all came as a shock. I had told him already that I was moving out if we weren't engaged after hitting a year of living together because it's something I'm personally not ok with. So it shouldn't be that big of a shock to him.
Do what is right for you-- I'm sorry you're going through this :( I waited for 6 years (1 LD, 3 living together). It was hard, but in retrospect my stubborn cold-foot husband who waited so long to propose was completely worth it. All I can say is guys are dumb ;) Good luck!!
@CoCoCourtney: Maybe I am being a little rash about things, but yes I am not happy at all at the moment. I told him if he isn't ready, that's fine with me, but I'm not going to compromise what I want to make him happy. Which means I'm moving out if he doesn't propose to me within the next month or so. And I really wouldn't be even half as upset as I am, but a few months back he had the audacity to tell me that I needed to prove to him that I was in our relationship for the long haul. This was after I left all of my family and friends to move to a foreign country to be with him. That pissed me off then, and for some reason I'm starting to feel like he still feels that way. But honestly I don't know how else to prove to him that I'm serious about our relationship.
Also, the thing is I just want to be married to him. I don't need a fancy ring or ceremony. I wouldn't mind having those, but honestly he knows if he asked me to marry him at the local courthouse tommorow I'd be as happy as if he planned some elaborate proposal and we planned a huge wedding to go along with it. He knew when we first started dating I was not ok with living together without being at least engaged. But I compromised on that for the sake of our relationship and because I thought he was worth it. Now it's starting to feel like I'm the only one making compromises and I'm always being the one to bend to accomodate him and his wishes. I'm tired of it though.
Aw I am so sorry for what you're going through, and I would be furious if my SO said part of our relationship didn't count! That was a year of your life that you invested in him and it's so rude for him to completely disregard that! Moving abroad for your SO and going through all of the challenging paperwork for a visa can be draining at times (I know from experience), he needs to be more understanding of your perspective! *Hugs* I hope everything works out for the best for you!
I don't get what the rush is, why do you have to get married now, why is it life or death. My SO and I have been together for 6 years now, we will be married at 7 years, I wouldn't care if we didn't get married for many more years. I love him the same whether we are married or not, I treat the relationship no different and I don't treat him any different.
Why would you push him into something he isn't ready for, I think it is rude to give him an ultimatum like that. He will ask you to marry him when he is ready and it should never be anything but that, otherwise you are getting married on false pretenses.
So now if he does propose, it will be because you threatened to leave him otherwise? Is that really what you want? If he said he's not ready, he's not ready. I feel like an adult sit down is needed here, not a threat and not him telling you to stop talking about it. Men aren't exactly excited to leap into situations where they feel like instead of proposing when they feel it's right, they are joining a chain gang...
I'm confused. If he loves you and you love him enough to go to the courthouse with him tomorrow, why aren't you willing to calm down a bit and let him propose to you in his own way in his own time. 2 years is really not that long, and this is a big deal. By always bringing it up and pressuring him, you could be having the opposite of your desired effect on him. I think the ultimatum is childish. I do agree that you shouldn't maintain the stutus quo forever, but it sounds to me like you have hardly given him the chance to enjoy the anticipation of engagement and you're making him dread asking you.
@brenda.m.fields: It's a big deal because he just completely disregarded one year of our life together. It's important because I gave up a good job, all of my friends, and being with my entire family to live with him. That is why it's such a big deal. If we were just dating and I wasn't living with him and we hadn't decided that we were getting married after living together, I wouldn't care. But he wants me to put so much effort into making him happy when he could care less about what I'm feeling right now.
@Tarheelgurl: If you made all of these sacrifices to be with him, it really makes sense that you're upset about this right now. How long have you lived together? Two years isn't a long time, but LD DOES count for something and he shouldn't have denied that. I think that leaving in one month is a bit extreme. I agree with others, have a calm, non-defensive conversation about this after you both cool down. I waited 4.5 years to be engaged to my FI and I'll wait until our 6 year mark until we get married. It was a long wait, but it was well worth it. However, I see why you can't necessarily wait as long. Have a good, calm conversation with him about it. Good luck!
@Tarheelgurl: From your defensive tone, I don't think you're really ready to address this properly. Take some time to breathe, to consider his feelings and anxieties, and to ahve an adult conversation. Lose the ultimatum. The picture you are painting is one in which in your rush to get engaged and married, you are tkaing all the joy out of it and are driving him away. Is that really the kind of relationship you want to be promoting? If it is, you may not be emotionally ready for marriage. Everything you've said has been very focused on you, your wants, your desires, your sacrifices, etc. You, you, you. A marriage is a partnership.
I guess I fell so strongly about this because I was like you about my realtionship the first time I got married. I sort of forced it to happen and then it blew up in my face. With the past 5 years to reflect on that, I can see how my zeal to get married (and we were together for 3.5 years when we got married) brought the wrong emotions and motivations forward and sabotaged us. Don't do that to yourself and to your SO.
I will say one thing... FI told me (before we got engaged) he was getting really uncomfortable with talking about the wedding and he'd like me to stop. It turns out he did this because he was planning on asking me within the next week or so and he was trying to throw me off the scent. I don't know your SO, but to about that before you decide to throw away what you have and leave because you are frustrated.
for me the way I phrased it was "I'm getting frustrated with waiting for it. We've always talked about it happening, we already function as a partnership and I love you and I know I want to be with you. But I also know that marriage is what I want with you and I feel that in the future I might not be able to wait. I can't tell you exactly when I'm going to wake up and "check out" but my guess is it's around 6 months from now and I want you to know it's not an ultimatum it's just letting you know how I feel. I don't think it would be fair for me NOT to tell you this because it wouldn't be fair if I woke up one morning in April ((this converstation happened a few months ago)) and said "I'm sorry I can't wait anymore""
obviously that is somewhat paraphrased but it was an incredibly calm and rational talk. It got us a lot more on the same page.
Also I think you have a right to be angry and if a month from now is the end of the timeframe you gave then there is something honest about saying you would leave in a month. I would just phrase it that a year is what you anticipated. You don't know the exact day you'll be done waiting, but it's nearing and it's causing you a lot of stress and anxiety and frustration. If nothing else it might open up conversation because that statement is about you, not about him
He says he isn't ready... do you really want that? Do you really want him to be unsure of your relationship while ultimately deciding whether or not to spend forever with you?
He may be talking engagements with you because he feels the pressure you are putting on him. But if he's asked you to stop talking about it and then admitted to not being ready... and then disregarded an entire year of your relationship... I'm sorry, but this is a bad move.
I hate to play this card, but you deserve a man who WANTS to get married to you. He's got to want it with an open heart and excitement, not dread or worry. You desreve that.
@mcklough: This is what I tried saying to him tonight, and then somehow it turned on me and I was being irrational he said. Quite honestly, if it hadn't been for me moving in with him AND moving away from all the people who I consider to be my life's support system, then I wouldn't even be upset right now. The thing is, he completely devalued me in his life when he said that first year didn't mean anything. I mean that year was the year I fell in love with him and started to feel we could go the distance despite the distance between us (hate to sound cliche but it's true). That year meant alot to me, and for him to put it down like that, well that made me feel like I wasn't that special apparently. He did apologize for it later, and I am calming down now, but I still feel like I have alot to think about at this point.
@ohmybears48: I do feel like he doesn't want to marry me now. Honestly I feel like he's just saying it will happen one day because he feels it's the right thing to do. And I don't want to marry someone who feels that way. If he were to ask me in the next 6 months at this point I don't even think I could say yes anymore. I'd just feel like he was going through the motions. I was with someone before who would've married me in a heartbeat if we hadn't broken up. And that's how I think it should be. You should want to marry someone because you want to, not because you feel compelled to, which is how I'm starting to think he feels.
Talk to him again. The emotions were probably so heated. You probably both said things you regret.
I feel like a lot of the people commenting on this post are missing the point of what you're saying (and maybe being a bit judgemental and unsupportive). You compromised about moving in together without being engaged because he said you could be engaged within a year, and now he's going back on it. He's telling you that you need to show your commitment when all you do is talk about wanting a commitment.
He's entitled to his feelings, but you deserve to be with somebody that wants what you want. Maybe, that's him, and maybe not, but I admire you for sticking to your guns either way. Has he shared with you why he's unsure about marriage now?
I'm so sorry this is happening. It sounds like you've given up a lot for him, and now you're feeling like it wasn't worth it. I hope things work out. Keep us posted!
I tried to type this last night but my computer was being funky, but basically, what I was saying was almost just like @Jenny267:
I understand what a lot of the other posters are saying about ultimatums and rushing not being a positive move on your part, but honestly, from what you've described, I think it's totally understandable that you're so frustrated with him. it sounds like you feel you've given up so much to be with him, and you don't think he's appreciated that or feeling the same commitment to the relationship that you have. yes, 2 years is not that long of a period in comparison to many other relationships, but if you've been open and honest in communication your expectations for moving forward with him, and he's not honoring that, that's not okay at all. I do think you should try talking to him calmly about this. it's okay if he doesn't feel ready quite yet--but he should still be able to discuss how he feels about you, and make you feel loved.
I second @ohmybears48.
I know this may sound unsupportive, but the fact is, if he tells you he'd not ready to get married, he's not ready. Believe him when he says that. He can have promised you an engagement within a year and the moon to boot, but the only thing that matters is what's actually happening. It sounds like it's going to be awhile before he pops the Q. (I'd be happy to be proven wrong, of course!)
I'm really sorry this is all happening to you. Time and time again posts like these are posted here on Weddingbee and it's sad. It must really suck when one person has a different timeline than the other. He should have never dismissed that year of your relationship like it didn't matter. However, he blatently told you that that he's not ready to get married. From what I read, he didn't say he NEVER wants to be married to you, just that he's not ready NOW. Thus, the choice is yours. You can wait it out until he's ready, or you can leave but you shouldn't try to force him into doing something he doesn't want to do. He'll just end up resenting you and that won't work.
What does he mean the first year of your relationship doesn't "count"? You moved for him and you thought you were getting engaged... I don't see anything wrong with deciding you're going to move home if a proposal doesn't come soon. It's up to you. Threatening it out of anger may not have been a great idea but if you want to be engaged soon or you want to move on then that's your right. Why wait around for someone if you don't want to? It can't ALL be based on him and when he's "ready".
I'm sorry you're going through this. I don't really understand why PPs are being so harsh. If he's not ready to marry you, you definitely deserve to go out and find someone really loves you and is prepared to make that commitment. There's not anything wrong with leaving him if his goals for the relationship clash with yours. Good luck
I don't think people are trying to be harsh, I think we're trying to get the OP to carefully consider if this ultimatum is something she really wants to do, and to be prepared for the very real possibility that it might totally work against her.
Best case scenario: She's now given an ultimatum and he proposes. She will now have to deal with knowing he likely only did it to keep her from leaving, and she might even have to deal with future resentment on his part because he wasn't ready.
Worst case scenario: She leaves an otherwise (happy?? Not sure how these issues play out in other situations in their lives) relationship, and it's over. The end.
Saying "A month or I'm done" might get the resulting proposal she wants, and I completely understand her anger. But it might not be so great in the long run. I don't see what's so horrible about pointing that out to someone who is clearly in a moment of real anger.
An ultimatum is no way to begin your lives together. I have a friend who had been dating and living with her now husband for at least 5-6 years and told him he needed to propose by X date. She regrets doing it because it took something special from him and them as a couple.
The part about long distance relationship irks me, I've been with my fiance for 8 1/2 years and at least half of those he's lived several hours away. Those years count, if you're not seeing anyone else and you're in a 'realtionship' with eachother it counts.
Also, does he mean he's not ready to get married 'right now' or period? Those are two different things.
I just feel like if this is the person you want to be with for the rest of your life then you should wait until he's ready. If you're in the same boat 2 years down the road then some gentle nudging might be necessary. I think I wrote on here before that I had been not so gentle and feel like a jerk, I really really regret how I acted about it. I also tried the 'ultimatum' once, it immediately fell through because I knew that, no matter what, I wanted to be with this person and I wanted to be with them when they were ready. I even tried the whole "lets date other people" that didn't work out either as I wasn't interested in anyone else and neither was he, actually we didn't do anything different whatsoever. I just feel like if it's meant to be it's meant to be and if you're so frustrated that you want to end it then maybe he wasn't the person for you; if you can't stand to be separated from him then you need to just wait it out.
That's just my 2 cents on the subject.
I understand OP
1) You moved to a new COUNTRY for him
2) He said that suddenly your entire first year together didn't count (WTF!?)
3) He decided that after all that you needed to be "tested" as to how committed you are?? You moved COUNTRIES FOR HIM!
4) He promised you that you would get engaged and convinced you to ignore your personal values for him by moving in BASED ON said promise then recanted.
Honestly I with you Hun. If you have a bad feeling about the situation now I say cut your losses. He's acting like a jerk. Its one thing for him to not be ready for marriage. It's another for him to completely disregard all of the compromises you made for him. You gave up your job, home, family and country for him and he spat on the entire first year of your relationship. Long distance or not doesn't matter. It obviously counted before when he was convincing you to come to him. Now he has you it means nothing?
I get bad vibes from the whole thing. I say just go home. Even if he does propose within a month I couldn't imagine marrying someone that showed such disregard for the relationship and all that I had compromised and given up for him.
So I took some time to calm down last night before we talked about everything again. He said that he feels that our relationship and I are ready for an engagement, but he himself isn't. I told him that was fine and he should've just said that before telling me everything he said last night. He then said that he felt that living together was completely different than being in a LDR (which I agree with) and that's why he said what he said about the first year not meaning much. I was still pissed about it and told him there was nothing he could say to make that sound better. So basically as it stands, as of right now I do not want to be engaged to him and I think I will be moving back home after my work permit expires. I don't want to break up with him, but I feel like we're on an uneven plane right now when it comes to our relationship and I'm not doing anything else until we get on the same page again. I'm not even sure if I want to apply for my permanent residency anymore at this point. I guess I'll see what happens over the next month or so.
Reading your OP made me think of Chandler in Friends... as soon as he decided to propose to Monica, he started saying all these things about how he thought marriage was stupid, and he wouldn't be ready for a long time (if at all)... and all the while he was just trying to throw her off so she'd be surprised. I obviously don't know you or your fiance so I don't know if this is a possible situation, but I hope that is what's happening, because he sounds like he's being a jerk! If he doesn't step up soon and propose as he promised, then I think your plan to move back home is a good one. I am keeping my fingers crossed for you!
Honestly, with some guys, having the girl take a stance that strong (and follow through with it) is what it takes to get them to get a move on. More power to you.
If you really, truly want to be with him - I'd suggest giving yourself an utimatum - not him.
You admit you've been pummeling him with wedding talk lately. That usually has a reverse effect on guys.
Try giving him, and you - that month or so. Can you just enjoy being with him without bringing up weddings all the time? If so, you might see a change in him. You might also FEEL a change in yourself - if you're not obsessing over weddings, maybe you'll start to think about and focus on other things, and enjoy your relationship as it is more.
If not, then maybe it is really time for you to move on.
Sounds like you have done a lot for this relationship. However, I wouldn't give it all up in a month. It takes longer than a month to get stuff together for a proposal...the ring, money, etc.
I would give it a little more time. Have you read the post about the "me-a-matum"? It's when you set an internal deadline and if he has not done anything by that time, then you leave. I'd give him about 4-6 more months, and if there is no movement by then, I think at that time you have just reasoning to leave (although you have it now...but I would give him a little time).
I think after a fight like the one you had, he is probably thinking over all you've said and he is either going to wake up and realize this is it or he won't care. I wouldn't leave in a few weeks out of the heat of the moment...I'd stay a few more months, save a little more money and then see where he is at. Honestly, if I were in your shoes, I'd be splitsville in a few months, too. If you moved to another country for him, I can see why you are so pissed!
Hmmm , the ultimatum never sounds like a good idea to me. I've had a few friends do this and things ended badly everytime, but those are just circumstances I witnessed. For me, I wouldn't feel that happy with an engagement knowing I forced it. Also, if I was the guy I would be resentful of being forced into something within the other person's time frame. I understand you wanting to get engaged/married but I think you need to be respectful of your SO's needs as well. Some people juste take longer than others. Hopefully everything works out for you two!
I'm a huge fan of timelines, but I also wouldn't want to know 'within the month' when it would happen - or force him into something.
For me, it's all about the romance. Him deciding he wants you to be his wife, saving up in secret, buying a ring he thinks is perfect for you and then surprising you with a proposal.
That to me hands down beats any kind of ultimatum.
My guy told me it would be whilst I was 25 (he told me this before I was 25) as a way of showing me his commitment, whilst also letting it be a surprise when it happened. I'm fully expecting the day before my 26th birthday if I'm honest and that way if it happens before it will be incredible.
I couldn't think of anything worse than forcing him into proposing. Sure I feel like it every now and again when my friends get engaged, but is that what I really want? To look back at that amazing day and think *I made him do this* or do you want to look back and think *isn't he just wonderful?*
I've been told if I get depressed and miserable because we're not engaged - it's not going to make him move any faster. He wants to marry a girl who's already happy - not a girl who's only happy when she gets what she wants.
I'm glad you 2 were able to calmly talk about things. So many guys shut down when us girls get emotional, mine included. So he pretty much isn't ready to get engaged... That sounds painfully honest. I think waiting a few weeks, MAYBE months, is a good idea. When does your visa expire?
I'm glad you aren't thinking of waiting around for him to be ready. Who knows how long he could take and most women in your position would become bitter over time... Or maybe that's just me?
I rarely post in this section because I was waiting in a previous relationship. I was in a similar situation except it was hours and not countries. We had a date set for the proposal, we even had a wedding date set. We were together 4 years total. 2 LD and 2 living together. A year before the wedding date we had set I asked him flat out what was going on. That we had set a date and yet there was still no proposal. His response was "Shouldn't I want to ask you?" It was the last time I ever brought it up. On the day we were supposed to get married I couldn;t be around him and drove several hours to my best friend's house because I couldn;t stand him at that point. I left him about a year later for a different reason. When we split up he told me he didn't want to lose me and he should have just proposed, he said he wanted to but he was scared. I am glad I never married him now. He was a very selfish person and I am much happier now. The 2 years we lived together I was miserable.I lost my job, my friends, my family, and was stuck there with nowhere to go if I wanted to get out.
My advice would be to take a breather for awhile. Go back home and give yourself some time to re-evaluate the relatinship. See if you honestly want to sepnd the rest of your life with him. Going back home does not mean ending the relationship. I would bring it to him in the same light. Sometimes you have to take a step back in order to move forwards. Good luck and if you ever want to chat feel free to PM me.
I like the summary that @MrsGolden2Bee: listed and I agree with @soyjoy222: that you should read the me-a-matum thread. But I think you can find a happy medium with out breaking up and going home or feeling like you are forcing him to propose.
I know you are frustrated because you went against you belief about living together without being engaged. I can imagine how that feels, because I believe the same thing. And if I went against that with the understanding that we'd be getting engaged within a certain time fram and he changed his mind, I'd BE PISSED and hurt and disappointed and wondering if he let me down with this, what else will he let me down on? Will I be able to count on him for anything?
But I'd also be mad at myself. How could I have let myself down? Why did I go against my beliefs for a boy?
So you are at a stalemate. He's not ready to commit to marriage, you are tired of betraying your beliefs. So the solution is, move out but don't break up.
I would say, "I love you and want nothing more to be your wife. But because I love you, I know you need to get to this place on your own. I don't want to force you. But I love myself more and I can't keep living with you. I don't think you realize just how much I have sacrificed of my own beliefs to do this. Everyday it is eating a little bit of me away. And it is starting to effect how I feel about you. It is not your fault that I choose to do this, but I have to make a change before it kills me and my feelings about you. I do not want to break up because I love you and want to spend the rest of my life with you, but I can't keep living with you without a commitment. So I need to move out. This will allow you the space and time to figure out how you feel about marriage. And it will allow me to follow my beliefs."
PS- look up the web site Conscious Transitions. I didn't use this site, but many people recommend it. I had similar feeling that your SO had about being unsure about marriage and if I could do it but knowing that if i could, I wanted to marry my now DH 100% no doubt. I think the web site I mentioned might be able to help him work through his feelings--getting married is scary even when you know it's with the right person.
**UPDATE**
So I have an update of sorts for everyone. First of all, I'd like to say thank you to everyone for letting me vent and giving me some great advice. After giving things a day or two to think about (and us finally both being not so emotional and alot more calm) we had one final talk about it. Basically I told him that if we aren't engaged by the end of July, which is when my work visa runs out, I'm moving back home but I don't want to break up. I told him he knew that this went against my inherent beliefs when I first moved, but he knew why I did it anyway. And that was because it was the only way we could live in the same city together before getting married, and neither one of us was willing to get married before living close to each other first. He said he could deal with that since he already had decided he was going to propose to me sometime this spring or early summer anyway, so that was a pleasant surprise.
I also got to the bottom of why he had a date but wasn't ready. He said that he felt ready when we were just going on with our lives, but when I started talking weddings it scared him a bit and made him feel pressured to propose. He said he wants to do it when he feels the moment is right, and wants it to be a surprise as well. So we agreed to stop talking about weddings or marriage until we get engaged, that way we're both happy and he doesn't feel pressured and I don't feel like I'm getting mixed signals. So now I'm going to just focus on the here and now and our first vacation together which will be coming up in May.
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