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    soon2bhis    December 26, 1999  

    I am SO FRUSTRATED and just need to vent!  (And if you have some helpful advice that would be great too!)

    DH is making me nuts.  He has no motivation to do anything.  I make him to-do lists (which sometimes work, sometimes not), I personally remind him, etc. and all I get told is I am nagging him.

    Bees...this is so gross but he ONLY brushes his teeth when he showers.  Not twice (or more) a day like normal people.  It's gross.  He says he "forgets".  HOW do you forget something like this?  But if I ask him to please do it, I'm nagging him.

    He won't go to the gym unless I go with him.  He won't eat decently healthy unless I make the meals.  I am exhausted.  I'm not physically attracted to him because he's not taking care of himself, but he still thinks we should be having sex all the time.  Uhm...no.

    Help!?  How do I bring this up without completely hurting his feelings?

     
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    lefeymw    April 16, 2011   CT

    I'm not physically attracted to him because he's not taking care of himself

    Sit him down when you are not angry and tell him this. Tell him you arent trying to hurt his feelings, you are just trying to have open communication because it is affecting your sex life.

    There is a big difference between nagging to take the trash out and personal hygiene and health.

    However, when it comes to eating healthy and the gym, those are items he has to want to do either for himself or you. That is not your decision. Has he always had these habits or has something changed? Because if he hasnt, you signed up for these behaviors and it will be very hard to change if he doesnt want to.

     
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    soon2bhis    December 26, 1999  

    @lefeymw: He used to go to the gym daily!  I don't know if it's because we're married and he doesn't feel a need to keep up his appearance or what. 

     
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    lefeymw    April 16, 2011   CT

    @soon2bhis: Well then I would say the above to him, and ask him what has changed that he doesnt feel the need to be healthy any longer. 

     
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    Jaxx317    July 17, 2011   Brooklyn, NY/wedding in the Hudson Valley

    This won't solve everything, and I am in similar boat as you (this was going on before we got married, too), but I think a little appreciation and positive reinforcement is always good to throw in with the criticism and nagging. I sometimes feel like I am living with a child, as my hubs rarely takes any initiative to do anything around the house, and I work way more hours than he does! But I try to make an effort to thank him all the time for the things he DOES do and to be positive and encouraging on the occasions he does make the effort. Maybe the fact that he doesn't eat or cook anything healthily is because he doesn't feel like he can do it as well as you can. Maybe take a healthy cooking class together so he can see that it's not hard. As for chores and to-do lists, do you guys have a shared calendar? We each have a google caledar that we both share and give access to the other person. That way we know when we have plans, appointments, etc. and you can set reminders there too. Did he used to play sports or is there a sport he likes to play for fun? You could suggest he join a league (not sure how urban an area you live in, but for us, there's lots of social and competitive sports leagues you can join, which are super fun, get you active and meeting new people too). But I totally know the feeling, and I hate hate hate being the nag, but sometimes it's the only way to make sure we are more less doing things equally. I'm still figuring out the best way to deal myself though, so would love hear other people's advice as well!

     
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    Wonderstruck    September 18, 2011   Detroit, MI

    I would NOT write to do lists for him. I don't have the healthiest habits but I can tell you that if my FI wrote me a to do list my reaction would be, "Excuse me?! Wtf. Does he think I'm his child?" ...and then I would throw it away and a major argument would ensue. So if he just says you're nagging it sounds like he is being pretty darn calm about it - because yes, you are nagging. Obviously the fact that he isn't taking care of himself bothers you, but it would go over much better to have a conversation about how you're concerned for his health, both physical and dental, than to write to do lists and say you're not attracted to him. I know you haven't told him yet, but please don't. That would be a last resort and I don't think you're at that point.

    As far as the gym goes...well, you said he goes when you're with him. So it seems fair enough for him to go when you go, it's not right to expect him to go more than you.

     
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    MrsCoachBtoBee    June 9, 2012   Alabama

    In my experiece, guys like to help and problem solve.  They also respond well to praise.  So, when I started wanting FI to do chores and stuff, I told him I "needed help" and was busy and overwhelmed and couldn't handle it all.  I didn't make lists or anything and when he did something I made sure to make a big deal of it.  Now, he takes out the garbage, cleans up his dishes, laundry and other stuff.  It's a miracle! lol.  

    As far as the working out goes, think of something fun you can do together and then be like "mm you're sexy when you work out."  It's all about the ego.  haha.

     
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    soon2bhis    December 26, 1999  

    @Jaxx317: Thank goodness I'm not the only one!!  Thanks for the suggestions!  He loves hockey and I think I need to "encourage" (not nag!) him to join a rec team.

     

    @Wonderstruck: I may have not explained myself super well.  They're more "honey do lists" and I've also started writing mine down too so he doesn't feel like I'm dumping everything on him.  He actually asks me to write him lists sometimes.

    @MrsCoachBtoBee: The ego...totally..

     
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    Oh honey, I think we're with the same man!  Lol! I am in the exact same boat as you and everyhing you said is exactly how I feel.

    Ever since FI and I have gotten "comfortable" (which was about a year ago, after ten months together), he has stopped attempting to take care of himself, altogther.  When I met him he had a six pack to die for.  Now, he's got a poochy tummy.  He took back up smoking about seven months after we got together.  I didn't feel it was big enough a deal to end a relationship over, but it hate it and beg him to quit daily.  He likes to smoke in our room.  I can't stand to have my clothes and belongings reek of cigarette smoke.  He also "forgets" to brush his teeth and I have to "nag" him to do it.  He started doing this a few months ago.  I noticed his breath was HORRIBLE and I was afraid to hurt his feelings so I went out and bought some really cool whitening toothpaste and mouthwash to "remind" him.  Now, I've just gotten to where I'll just yell at him, "Go brush your teeth your breath is disgusting!"  A lot of times he does brush in the morning without my reminder, but he'll brush BEFORE drinking three cups of coffee and smoking half a pack of cigarettes.  Someone's breath after coffee and cigarettes, whether they brushed before or not, is horrid.  I've had to tell him that he needs to drink his coffee FIRST.  He hasn't gotten a haircut since July and refuses to, simply because he says he's doing it to "get on my nerves".  He hasn't trimmed his facial hair in a month, either.  He looks so unkempt that my mom now calls him my "lumberjack".  He has a lot of chest hair, and he REFUSES to button the button on his shirts, but he also REFUSES to wear shirts that don't have the buttons on them (you know, the polo shirts that have three buttons in the front?). 

    Going out in public with him is an embarrassment sometimes.  I hate to say that about someone I love more than anything else in this world, but it's true and he knows I feel that way.  He has to smoke on the way in to any place.  Even if the car is ten steps from the door.  He then puts his cigarette out with his hand and puts the cigarette behind his ear.  So, he smells like a burnt cigarette EVERYWHERE.  I am nearing a breakdown regarding these things and don't know what to do. 

    Like you, I feel like my only option is to nag and whine to get him to comply with me.  I also have to barter with him in order to get him to do things he should be doing regardless.  Like, today, I did something I really didn't want to do for him so he would shave his beard.  I wish I could give you some solid advice, but I'm trying to figure this out, myself.

     
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    justelope    December 30, 2011  

    When someone suddenly stops grooming themselves it can be a sign of depression.  Maybe he's bored at work, or maybe he is having some mixed feelings adjusting to his new life?

    If he never brushed his teeth and doesn't smell now, you might just have to save the nagging for when he does smell.

    Maybe communicate that your idea of foreplay involves a tooth brush? lol.

    BTW, my friend defines true love as being able to accept your partners annoying habits.  But there comes a point at which these aren't habits but self destructive signs of something else going on.

     
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    Moja Milosc    September 24, 2011  

    My DH was never taught to brush his teeth. They just never cared if he did it or not. It's a nasty habit and he knows not to bother kissing me if he hasn't brushed them. Up until he quit smoking he new better than to come anywhere near me with that ashtray of a mouth. No way, no how.

    Maybe I'm mean but I didn't approach it gently with him. I just told him flat out if he doesn't brush his teeth he has bad breath and I don't want to kiss him. After a couple weeks of refusing kisses when he forgot, he stopped forgetting!

     
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    spaneshal    October 19, 2012   UK

    Did you know he was like this while you were dating? Just my SO is a mechanic and I know he will always be grubby, but I know he can scrub up well too lol! It's just never bothered me as that is who he is, appearance and all.

    If your getting slightly hung up about his personal care - perhaps try the opposite approach? Compliment him when he dresses up and say how sexy he looks. This is far more effective than just nagging him as men will probably do less on purpose to wind you up more.

    That's what I do anyway (works too!), good luck!

     
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    Au Jardin    May 26, 2012   France

    Mine used to work from home a lot, so it was easy to just put on a bathrobe get coffee and work at the computer the whole day...for several weeks in a row. Encouraging him to go out to a bar with his friends every now and then really helped, plus I got some time to myself Wink

    Otherwise, you might want to talk about why he is in a funk - if his behavior has changed drastically, you might want to make sure he's not depressed. As for chores, I think that has always been a battle of the sexes thing. If we cook or clean together, no one feels like the other is being dumped on. 

     
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    Mrs. Bonnie Blue    January 29, 2011  

    @MrsCoachBtoBee: I do this with Hubby and he has done so much more around the house!

    There was an article about how if you 'nag' your husband or have him do things around the house, then they resent it, but if you praise him for the things that he does do and make a big deal about, then they are more likely to do things. The author was saying how they won't say anything about the laundry that is left on the floor, but they will make a huge deal about how they unloaded the dishwasher without asking. For whatever reason, the guys will want to do more to get that praise. My husband works shift work and when he is off, he really doesn't do that many chores around the house. However, now he has started to do a lot more around the house.

    We go and work out together and I cook healthy meals for us. If he is working out of town, I'll send him with meals that I've cooked, so he will eat better than if he is eating on his own.

     
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    78h2o    October 8, 2011   MD (wedding was in OR)

    I'm pretty much like your husband, lol.

    Well, except that I brush my teeth. :)

    I am much lazier and laid back about chores than my hubby who is a total neat FREAK. He also works out 1-2 times a day, pretty much every day, and used to be ridiculously healthy eater. I ate pretty well, but did have a sweet tooth. It took us 4.5 years of dating and years of living together to finally figure out how to make things work between us (not that it will take you that long). He used to nag me about what I ate and about going to the gym... now he knows NOT TO GO THERE. I view that as controlling. He might ask if I want to go to the gym with him, which I like, but he won't ask more than once, and won't react negatively if I say no. He is always happy/encouraging whenever I do decide to go.

    With regards to eating, I guess I've corrupted him... we both eat healthy meals 90% of the time, but go for hot wings once in awhile, or split dessert when we eat out. Actually, he is now a bad influence on me!

    With regards to the house, we've come to sort of an understanding as to how to deal with chores. At one point, we made a list of chores that have to be done and split them up. We decided to each do our own laundry, take turns with the dishes, I vaccuum the floors, dust, make the bed, & clean the fish tank. He mops the hardwood floors and cleans the bathrooms/scrubs the toilets and showers. He also takes out the trash.

    When there's a bunch of stuff he'd like me to do, I actually PREFER for him to make me a list. That way he doesn't have to keep reminding/nagging me. The list is more neutral and I don't have to do what he's asking that second. I ask him to put a "deadline" on the list, e.g., "please try to do these things before Sunday". I always do what he asks during that time and I'm sure he would do the same if I gave him a similar honey do list.

    Regarding the hygiene stuff, I would use positive reinforement (like others have mentioned) and jump him anytime he finishes brushing his teeth, etc! lol :) I also wouldn't be afaid to ask, "Have you brushed your teeth???" If he says no, I wouldn't nag him, but I'd also not proceed intimately... he should get the message without you saying anything!!!

    Ps - Do you think those behaviors have changed, or do you think you are just now learning about them because you're living with him? I do think that if there's been a change you might talk to him about his mood and the possibility of depression.

     
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    soon2bhis    December 26, 1999  

    @78h2o: Regarding the hygiene stuff, I would use positive reinforement (like others have mentioned) and jump him anytime he finishes brushing his teeth, etc! lol :)

    LOL!  Like How I Met Your Mother.  "No wonder I get an erection every time I floss!"  Haha!

    Thanks for your advice everyone!  I'll definitely give it a shot.

    We have lived together about a year before getting married and it was kinda hit or miss on him brushing his teeth twice a day, but he definitely did try harder before.  I also know he hasn't been in the greatest of moods since our move, so I'll try to be a little easier on him.

     
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    Mrs. PolarBear    December 23, 2011   Orlando, Florida

    @soon2bhis: Just a small comment on the brushing twice (or more) a day. Not everyone does this...in fact I would daresay the majority don't brush twice a day. And the person who brushes more than that is a rare person indeed...or a dentist. So try not to be too hard on your hubby. This isn't normal behavior for most people, but if you need it to have sex then explain that as something you need him to do for you, not that it's unhygenic. Might help =)

     
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    StaceyMay81    May 11, 2011  

    Men tend to operate better when their penis is involved. A little bribery never hurt anyone ;)  Seriously though, if you tell him that his hygiene is making you less attracted to him (and less horny!) it will probably click in right away.

    At one point in our relationship, my DH was doing things that made me feel like he was more like my child than my lover and I told him that it was a turn off and killing our sex life. As soon as he heard this, he changed his behaviours.

    I also use BJ's as motivational tools. Horrible you say? He doesn't mind one bit and it gets him motivated to do just about anything so we both win.

     
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    Mrsgurzakovic    June 7, 2012  

    :( well im so sorry for hearing that.. it sucks. Brushing his teeth can be ehh.. but its not a deal breaker really.. atleast he remembers to brush once haha.. its better then not doing it at all.. but I dont think u should be nagging on him to brush his teeth cuz he might really think " your not his mom"- no offense.

    If your not physically attracted to him, then you guys need a serious sit down and u need to confront him. Maybe when you tell him whats going on in the back of your head- he might find it a motivation to get up and change his life style? but maybe t hat shold be kept as last option- try all the nice - sweet options first before going rough. I know were supposed to love our spouses through good and bad, sickness and in health and even through " thick and thin" lol -- but I can understand why you just DONT feel it no more- its not your fault, its attraction and we dont have control over our emotions.. So maybe u can go with him as often as possible till he just gets used to it? Maybe see if a friend of his would also encourage him to go with him?

     

     

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