(Closed) I got my furbaby (Samoyed) and now I have questions (LONG)

posted 6 years ago in Pets
Post # 3
1071 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: July 2013

Wow it sounds like you are crating this dog WAY too much.  We never did that with either of our dogs if wew were at home except at night when we first got them.  Our dogs are completely potty trained and have no issues peeing inside.  Maybe your dog has so much energy because she is crated too often.  Here are some guide lines from the humane society


Post # 4
1026 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

How old is the puppy?  If she is having accidents in the house at this point its probably more your fault then hers.   With ours we started potty breaks every 30 minutes unless she was in the kennel.  Once she was succesful at that we gradually over several weeks worked up to 45 minutes, 1hour, etc.  If she can’t make it 40 minutes right now set a timer and take her out every 30 minutes.  

Having her in the crate for a few hours during the day is ok- you definitly want her to be ok being in the crate when you need her too. 

The energy thing varies from dog to dog no matter the breed.  Yes she is going to have more energy now then as an adult.  This is the time where she is learning all sorts of things, and has a lot of natural curiousity and energy to go with it.  One thing I would recommend- stop making playtime dependent on potty time.  She needs to be active and engaged to spend that energy, and taking it away as a “punishment” doesn’t teach her anything about potty training.  Most people don’t recommend super long walks for a young dog because it can damage the growing muscles and joints.  But as long as her vaccines are current shorter walks are great.  Also a lot of dogs tire faster from a training session then a run around crazy session.  

For the laying calmly on the couch with you- its part tiring the puppy out, part training.  Start teaching her sit and stay.  At the end of a play/walk/train session, put her in a sit and stay and sit next to her and scratch her gently.  At first she may only stay a few moments, but gradually her attention span will grow.  

Oh- please share pictures!  We love puppy pictures.

Post # 5
7293 posts
Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2011


haha, I love that special vision of having your puppy all cuddly and calm ( I’ve been there)..NOT! Puppies can be wild, and some dogs will be high energy until they can’t physically do it any longer ( Read: 10 years old with hip dysplasia). It depends on breed, age, and also the amount of excercise (physical and mental) you provide it with.

Also, if you crate too much/a lot you may notice that once you open that door, the pup is ON, like no off switch, until it goes back in its crate. Its going to take lots of time, but essentially you have to house break the dog to learn what is acceptable when we are in the house so it can learn to distrubte its energy and associate the house with certain interactions and behaviors.

As far as the pee pee issue, I reccomend every half hour giving her the opportunity. Also, keep an eye on her water drinking. Some pee may be from excitement as well. And also, she may have picked up she gets attention or a certains something happens when she just pees randomly. So those are factors to consider as well.

Patience! You are doing fine. Its a process and pupps are like babies- they take lots and lots of time and repetition to get the slightest bit of results. And although they are cute, they can be demons and give you a run for your money!

Post # 8
7293 posts
Busy Beekeeper
  • Wedding: October 2011

@cutexkitty:  SHE IS SOOO CUTE!

Your schedule looks good. Its just going to take some time since she is still very young. If you have work to do, then you do what you can.

Post # 9
11325 posts
Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: February 2011

The more you crate yoru dog, the crazier she will be when she’s out. I don’t really believe in crating, period. But I can understand why people do it at night/when they’re gone. But if you’re home IMO she should be out. This will make her less hyper because being out won’t be so OMGEXCITING. (although puppies are hyper period.. it is kinda what they do. But there are degrees of it). As for potty training, I’d take her out every 30-45 min. Puppies are a ton of work… but that stage doesnt’ last long.

Post # 10
2607 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: May 2009

1.) Yes, it’s normal.  Puppies play hard, and then they sleep hard.  Playing and sleeping is pretty much all they do.  When they’re worn out is a good time for snuggling, but the rest of the time, there is to much to see, smell, do, and explore for them to waste time snuggling.  This is true of pretty much all puppies, but especially high energy breeds.  Short walks are great now, longer walks when she’s a bit older.  NO JOGGING/RUNNING though, until her growth plates have closed.

2.) You are crating waaaaaay too much.  This is part of the reason your puppy has so much energy all the time.  Puppies should ONLY be crated when you cannot directly supervise.  Bed time is a good time for crating, (depending on her age, she will probably need to go out at least once at during the night), and a few hours throughout the day.  Other than that, she needs to be free to play and explore and be a puppy.  She should be off-leash in the house when you are playing with her, etc.  When you’re doing other things, (like working), she should be leashed to you.  This is called “umbilical training.”  Part of the reason she is having accidents is because you’re not around her long enough to learn the signs that she needs to go.  Umbilical training will help with that.

Basically it’s what it sounds like…the leash becomes like an umbilical cord that tethers the two of you together, (if you cannot hold the leash because you need your hands free, you can tie it to your belt loop.  Now she is free to move about and play with toys, etc., but is forced to remain close to you so you can keep an eye on her.  Should she stop playing and start sniffing/circling, IMMEDIATELY stop what you are doing and take her outside.  If she starts to “go” in the house, yell “NO!” (this should startle her into stopping), pick her up and CARRY her outside to her potty area.  

Make sure you are using a command for pee and poop…you can call them whatever you want, but she needs to have a word that she associates with each of them.  Start by using the word WHILE she is going.  If she’s peeing, for example, you can say, “Good potty!  Good girl!  YES!  Go potty!  Good potty!”   Be excited for her, and when she’s done, praise, praise, praise.  Same for pooping, but be sure to use a different word.  As she comes to associate the word with the action, you can use it as a command to tell her, “Go potty!”  NEVER just use the term “Good girl!” or she may associate this with the action, and then when she sits on command in the house and you tell her “good girl!” she may surprise you on your carpet.  LOL!

Not sure how old she is, but in general, they need to go out a LOT when they are awake.  Puppies are like babies in that their bodies don’t always give them a lot of warning before they need to go, (or they are too busy to notice until it’s almost too late).  In general, they should go after eating or drinking, and again 20 to 30 minutes afterwards.  They should go after sleeping, after playing…basically after anything she does.  Every 30 minutes to an hour is a good starting point.  If she’s still having accidents, take her out every 20 minutes.  If she’s doing well holding it for an hour, try increasing the time.  Again, umbilical training will help with this because she won’t be able to wander out of your sight to “go” behind the couch, etc.

Also, if she is having accidents in her crate, one of two things (or both) is wrong.  Either she is being expected to hold it too long, her crate is too large, or both.  Her crate should be (as a puppy!) just big enough for her to go in, turn around, and lay down.  They sell crates with dividers, or you can buy/make one to make your crate smaller.  As she grows, obviously, you move the divider so she has more room.  Once she’s fully potty trained, you can remove the divider completely.  

Oh!  And if she has an accident, make sure you are throughly cleaning it with an enzyme cleaner specifically made for pet stains (such as Nature’s Miracle).  If you don’t remove the smell, even if it LOOKS clean, it will encourage her to resoil the same spot.

3.)  Crating her for a few hours alone while you work isn’t a big deal.  I think I would reduce the time to and hour or two for now, and increase it as she’s a little older, (or break it up so it’s 60-90 minutes, and then another 60-90 minutes later).  Think of it like putting a baby down for a nap.  After all she IS a baby, just not a human baby.

Post # 11
1026 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

Its definitely a personal choice how often you crate but I agree with CorgiTales.  The more you crate, the more exciting coming out is, the more crazy puppy energy.  You also have less time spent learning house routines, and how to behave when out of the crate.

For the potty training- what you are doing will work, but it will probably take longer then using more frequent potty breaks.  Honestly at that age she should be able to last more then 30 minutes, so maybe its less an issue of not going often enough and more of not going at the right times.  Could you try every 30 minutes for 2 or 3 days (maybe over the weekend?) and write down every potty time?  You may get a better idea of what times of day she needs to go.  

Post # 12
330 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: September 2011

So…you’re probably not going to like this, but…

My friend’s neighbor has a Samoyed and while I think she’s ADORABLE (full grown), the lady always says how the dog had the longest puppy stage of any dog she’s had. Like, 3-4 years of really playful, really active, chews on things, puppy stage.


As for crating, we’ve never really crated our dog (a Labrador) and she can (if necessary) stay inside without an accident for a whole day. She’s full grown now. When she was a puppy, we kenneled her (outside during nice weather) when we were gone, just so she didn’t get into things or pee in the house. But that was only for the first few months. Praise and a treat (give her dog food from you hand) is enough to potty train. I agree with nikkialys  that it’s all about potty times and learning the schedule. Miss Apricot’s’s tips are really good as well. We never used a leash, but because there were plenty of us at home while our lab was a pup, we passed her off from person to person so that she was always watched. 



Post # 15
1431 posts
Bumble bee

She is a puppy, your expectations may be a little high. I say that because I could have written everything you do a couple months ago when I first got my puppy. Same thing, read books and articles ect on proper way to crate train ect and feel like when our puppy came home all hell broke loose and felt like if we did something the book said not to we would damaging our dog lol.  So to give you my take on your questions because I feel like we were very much in the same boat..

1. Energy level- our dog is also known for a high energy level. Same as you I wanted to hike, walk, play when I wanted to do those things but for it to be mello right the time. YEAH RIGHT! It was exhausting at first, especially before they can take full walks because of vaccinations. The things that made things much easier was once we could take them on walks he was much more mello when at home. I also got kong treats that took longer to eat so he would sit with my and eat those. Also gating off the kitchen for a play area was SO helpful. When we didn;t have time to watch him or if he was being way too wild/biting we could put him in there with food/water/toys and potty pad so we were constantly putting him in the crate. We basically used the crate for bed time, naps or if we were going on an errand for a couple hrs, any longer than that he goes in the kitchen. 

2. Our puppy did the same thing. Peed everywhere, mostly when playing. He would use the potty pad but he would just pee and then we would play and 15 min later he would pee again. So frustrating! He grew out of it.. just keep doing what your doing. Let him out every 30 min to an hr, take his water away 2-3 horus before bed time.  If he doesn’t gopotty put him back int he crate and wait 15 min and then take him out again9 we didn’t do that and i think that would have saved our carpet more. We used a bell at the door so he would get use to know where to go to when he has to pee.

3. My puppy also has a lot of home time with us since my husand and my work schedules are so different. I was really worried he would have seperation anxiety cuz we would go freakin crazy with excitement whenw e got home, cry when we left and follow us all around the house. Best thing we did was find a treat that he loved so much that he didn’t leave it when we walked out of the room and thats what we gave him when we left him int hekitchen or crate.  We always gave different treats every time we put him in the crate or kitchen, sometime we still do so he doesn’t hate either of them.  If he cried we wouldn ever let him out until he stopped wining.  A big thing is also to not make a big deal when you let them out of the crate or when you get home because which is so hard because they are so darn cute getting so excited.

Best Advice I have- GO TO PUPPY TRAINING CLASSES ASAP! Not only is it soooo cute and great for bonding but you will learn a lot. Iwish I started mine at 8 weeks instead of 12 weeks.  Also, we took our pup everywhere with us in beginning. We wanted him to get socialized with dogs, kids, noises, resturants everything and he is super well adjusted. 


Good luck! It gets easier. Honestly I was near tears sometimes with being exhausted and frustrated but it gets easier. My puppy is 16 weeks now and it makes a world of difference.

Post # 16
2815 posts
Sugar bee
  • Wedding: March 2012

My vet told me that puppies can’t REALLY hold their bladders until around 4 months.  She’s still very young and I think maybe you’re expecting too much of her at this point.

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