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    SimplyChic11    December 30, 2011  

    For my previous threads: 

    http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/update-10

     

    http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/fh-and-i-could-use-thoughtsprayers-today-long-sorry

     

    And yet another update. 

    I am sorry if I keep writing about this but I cannot believe this sh*t is happening to us right now. :( 

     I've cried/watched my fiance cry all day due to this drama. 

    Last night his parents texted him saying they had 'good news' I figured it wouldn't be too good for us either way and we already made a decision not to call them till the weekend, so we let it go.

     They called him this morning, both his mom and dad on the phone and started yelling at him. They DID call the faculty at MY school. Like... ALL the faculty. From the head of the department to head professor to the supervisor for my class. All in an attempt to get me out of this one class FH had mentioned to them required me to stay that weekend, the weekend their other son was getting married. 

    I am so ashamed they did this and kind of upset they were able to talk to all these people without my permission to do so. In fact, FH told them strictly NOT to do this since it's kind of disgraceful for me. I have told them for months I wouldn't be able to make it and getting my semester's syllabi only confirmed this. 

    Apparently these people said it was ok to miss the weekend class but told me personally otherwise. I know in leaving campus I will be forsaking my straight A grade and also leaving those under me with no leadership for the projects we have coming up. Academically this is not good for me and something the bride and groom understood months ago. This is just a problem with his parents. In calling everyone in charge of this one class, they did not pursue the fact I have other classes with strict attendance policies as well. I am NOT able to miss these still. 

    So what does my future family do? Well, for one... they called FH today, both mom and dad on the phone and started yelling at him. Calling me a liar (although my supervisors told me otherwise) and that I blatantly am trying to pull away from their family because I am choosing academics and people at school relying on me over this wedding. I can't bear to repeat the other names they called me, his dad even insinuating that FH should leave me when I never told a lie in the first place. 

     I was honestly told at the beginning of the year I could not make it to this wedding and made plans accordingly. I hate to think of what will happen to my FH, what they will say to him, if he goes up without me. We are already being cut off from their financial support (they are pretty wealthy) simply because FH has chosen to move away from his family and live with me. The rest of his family is not mad at us, this is just his parents. 

    I have been through veritable hell the past few weeks as some know by my posts. :( I can't sleep, FH hardly does either. Every day has some new crap coming from them against me. 

    I feel like I am the scapegoat for their son's moving away from them. But I have never given any of them reason to doubt my character. Or reason to call me these terrible things. 

    I cannot live with this. I either go with FH and lose the entire battle, showing them I can be manipulated into doing what they wish. Showing them they can say horrid things about me and have no remorse whatsoever. 

    Or I can stand my ground and not go to this wedding, mainly because I made commitments to all these people at my university. Also, because I do not think I can face his family calmly after this whole ordeal. I want to yell at them so badly for all the hurtful things they've said. For all the crap they've caused their son to go through. For the conditional love they show him by always hooking him into their twisted world of psychoticness. And especially, because his mom told me I had a lot of ass to kiss if I missed this due to my work/school. 

    I feel I cannot have my grades reduced my senior year. :( No wedding is worth this much drama. Sorry if this is rambling and long! 

     
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    Misfit    October 27, 2014   Australia

    @SimplyChic11: Stand your ground and don't go. His parents are being incredibly selfish and rude.

    "And especially, because his mom told me I had a lot of ass to kiss if I missed this due to my work/school."

    ^Who the hell actually says this? I'd be furious if someone said that to me. Honestly, just try and distance yourself from them. It's not worth it.

     
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    Moja Milosc    September 24, 2011  

    Anyone who thinks being a guest at a wedding is more important than school is crazy. Your high grades mean a lot to you, and you know what? Every single day I think back to when I was in school and how I could have gotten better grades. I did well but I could have worked harder. College is an opportunity not a lot of people have, and if you don't make the best of it you will always regret it.

    Obviously social gatherings and drama are more important to them, which is a great reason to stick to your guns. Do you want to be like them with ridiculous priorities? Nooooo... so be cool, stay in school.

    I can kind of see how they would think you are being too serious if you don't want to take one day off, but ultimately that is your decision. They have no say and don't need to do a full fledged investigation

    A friend of mine once told me she did out the math (this was at a state school) and every SINGLE class you skip is about $80 wasted. That's insane.

    Don't back down. If you do they'll just find something else to bully you about.

     
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    SimplyChic11    December 30, 2011  

    @Misfit: Thanks, I know right? That infuriated my mom as well. It took all the will power I had not to snatch the phone from FH this morning when they were yelling these things at him. 

     I don't need or expect an apology from them. 

    I DO need to know they are remorseful and they trust me and FH's at our word if we are ever to move forward with them in our lives. 

     
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    pinkshoes    July 2011   MA

    Wow.  I missed your other threads and just caught up.  Stand your ground.  Don't let them manupulate you.  If you give in on this one, they'll just continue this crap forever thinking they can do whatever they want to get their way.

     
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    Treasure43    September 18, 2010  

    That's CRAZY! I can't believe they actually called the school. How disrespectful to you! If I were you I'd stand my ground. If you do cave in and go....they'll think they can pull this shit anytime you're not doing what they want and they'll have you right where they want you.

     
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    Eva Peron    November 2011  

    Whoa.......

    I'm so sorry this is happening. Make a plan with FI and stick with it.

    Are his parents coming to your wedding?

     
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    MademoiselleL    August 24, 2012   Vancouver, BC (wedding in Maui)

    Wow.  Do not go to that wedding!  You're doing the right thing.

     
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    SimplyChic11    December 30, 2011  

    @Eva Peron: I don't know anymore :/ I certainly hope so. It would look bad against them in front of all their extended family that loves me! 

     UPDATE: FH and I decided I should NOT go. I'm sure this means more crap but it's just not worth it and we're both certain this would happen again in the future regardless. 

     
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    Jeannine @ Small Chic    June 1, 2012   Virginia

    I'm an academic.  In my world, school comes first for the [relatively short] amount of time you're in school.  I would hope that most people would acknowledge that for these few years, school is your job and your first priority. 

     

    These people sound like horribly self-centered people.  I'm sorry you have to deal with them.

     
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    heather5743    March 10, 2012  

    I didn't see your other posts until just now.  Wow.  They sound really crazy.  I can't believe they called your school!!!  Seriously!!??  That is nuts.

    I'm glad you aren't giving in.  School is so important, especially for you and FH's future, I'm sure. 

    I really hope things get better for you two.

     
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    teamajax13    October 22, 2011   Charleston,sc

    I literally just got light headed when I did a catch up on your threads them came back to this one and found out she had done this!! Oh my gracious... If your school is anything like mine...the more you get into school, the harder it is to skip. And professors not only expect more out of you, but they get to fully decide your grades without being questioned by uppers, like in HS..... Dude. I would vomit if my FMIL did this (though she does do horrific stuff). But wow, this is too much. I have a rule that if his mom does something my mom would die before doing or expects something out of me that my mom would never dream to expect, not taking it. I don't have to answer to my own mother, so no way I'm gonna answer to someone else's mama (more than I'm comfortable with, anyways).....  but in saying that, there are obviously things I put up with because I love HIM.... this junk would make me move across the country right here. On a literal note, don't go to the wedding. Don't back down. No way..... Go tell your professors she didn't speak for you, you are sorry, and that she is off her rocker.... then tell her you have classes ALL week, and forewarn your other teachers.... You, and your teachers just ignore her...  my heart goes out to you right now....

     
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    luvdmb36    October 29, 2011   Portland, OR

    I can't believe they called your school.  Can. not. believe. it.  If I was your prof I would be horrified.  Have you spoken with them (your profs) yet?  I hope you can communicate to them and your school that you had NO PART in the drama that your FILs are stirring up.  I can't even imagine.  There would be no way I could be calm about this. This is YOUR FUTURE and I can't believe that you communicated all along that you would not miss school and yet were still completely disrespected.  I can't believe it.  I am so sorry.

     
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    kjgirl05    October 9, 2011   Baltimore

    Wow, I just read your other posts. Do not go to that wedding!

     
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    MsB_to_bee    May 1, 2014   VA

    Wow, I can't believe anyone could be that crazy and overbearing! I am so sorry. You are working hard for your education, to build a better future for you and your family.  You gave them plenty of notice, and I would personally be mortified if anyone was so intrustive as to call my professors! I hope you are close enough with them to (professionally) explain you were not involved, as previous posters suggested.

    Don't go to the wedding. It sounds like this may add further stress to your relationship with them, or lack thereof. But your priorites are in the right place, and they are only thinking of themselves. No one who cares about you would put you in this position, and going would only show them that you could be manipulated in other ways down the road.

     
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    kerensa    May 20, 2013   Ohio

    Don't go! I am so sorry you are going through this!

    I get into similar situations sometimes; try to remember that it's not you, it's them! It's a shame you can't just have a friendly, open and understanding relationship with his parents and that you can't all just get along. But you know what, not every can get along with their in-laws and not every relationship is worth the effort.

    It sounds like the bride and groom are understanding and it's just the FMIL/FFIL who are being so destructive. As long as the couple is OK with you missing the wedding, that's all that should matter.

    I know it probably contributes to the issue, but reading all these stories I am so glad you live so far from these people!

     
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    honeyoats22    December 2011   Florida

    This is insane. Wedding's are important, but your degree and commitments are far more important than this ONE wedding. They're being crazy. <3 If I were you, I probably still wouldn't go to the wedding, and I would have a serious talk with the supervisors.

     
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    parasol    September 16, 2011   Los Angeles

    I don't think you should go. It's a wedding, and unfortunately, sometimes people have to miss weddings because of other commitments, like school, work, family obligations, etc. This is nothing against your FH's family personally, you just have other commitments that you cannot drop to attend a party. 

    And I agree: if you go, it only shows them that they can treat you like garbage, and you'll do what they want. And that's not a precedent I think you want to set for you relationship with these people. They need to know that they cannot bully people into getting their way. 

     
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    miss_optimistic    November 12, 2009  

    @SimplyChic11: WOW.  Does his brother and FSIL even know whats going on??!  It sounds like they completely understood and its not like you are keeping your FI from going!  Definitely do not give in to them!  Email or talk to your professors asap and let them know you will not be absent and to please not communicate with them again.  Even if you could miss a day (which I know you can't), missing even one day can be difficult to make up and cause you to fall behind.  They need to get over this.

    Maybe make sure the brother knows the drama that is going on and the fact that your FILs may cause drama with your FI at the wedding??  If his parents on start a fight they shouldn't be blind-sided with all this on their wedding day, which is supposed to be a happy day focused on them and not this mess.  I'm SO SORRY you're going through this!

     
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    I'm glad your FH is so supportive in all this.  Honestly I think that at this point, your FH should cut them off completely.  If my parents acted like that, they would not hear from me again.  Like ever.  And I'd probably dance on their graves.  There is a basic respect that EVERYONE deserves, and the fact that they can't give that to their FDIL is disturbing and wrong.  It's also very typical for an affluent family to think that they can just call school faculty to demand their way.  I think you need to speak with your school and ask that they not discuss your business with anyone but you.  You can't control his parents, but you do have privacy rights that the school must uphold.

     
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    Don't go.  Don't risk graduating after all your hard work.  I unfortunately couldn't end up graduating from a private university after completing 2 successful years.  I had professors against me because both my parents ended up with terminal illnesses at once.  I  owe $50K in student loans and will never be able to graduate with a Master's Degree.  It was worth it to me because it had to do with helping parents at the end of their lives-but to miss out on your degree due to being a guest at a family wedding is not worth it. 

     
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    misschickpea    October 26, 2013   Austin, TX

    Oh my God! I'm so sorry! You do not deserve to be treated that way, how juvenile of them! And to CALL your University!!!! ^&%%(&*(##$!!!! Unheard of! Stand your ground and I would seriously consider eliminating these people from your future. Just saying.

     
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    bklynbridetobe    December 2011   Brooklyn Born

    I'm sorry, you don't deserve this. I defintely wouldn't go cause they beyond crossed the line at this time.

     
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    Evie19    January 21, 2012  

    I am so so sorry you have to deal with inlaws like this. As others have said- make sure you and your FI are totally united, and don't go to that wedding!

    Good luck to you.

     
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    flutterbi    June 30, 2012  

    Okay, clearly his parents are crazy. Clearly it's important that you attend these classes. As much as it sucks to give an inch at all here, is it possible to find some middle ground compromise.

    You said in your first post that FH was your only way to the wedding, I assume this is because you only have one car. Is it possible to rent a car and drive yourself on Thursday after class or else Friday morning (if that would get you there in time for the wedding)? If you don't drive - would it be possible for them to send a car (you said they are rather well off) to drive you.

    I know it sucks to have to give into them in anyway, but they are clearly putting you through a LOT of stress and if you could find a solution in which you get to go to classes AND attend the wedding it seems as though everyone would get their way.

    This isn't saying I agree with FH's parents at all! I don't get why they think it is so important you be at the other son's wedding, but if they are going to call your school and go through that trouble it must be important to them for some unexplainable reason.

     
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    Rubies    August 17, 2013   New York, NY

    You need to meet with your academic advisor ASAP and find out exactly how people who are not you, your doctors or someone given permission to speak on your behalf was able to discuss you GRADES and ATTENDANCE with professors. Unless they know the names of your profs they had to get information from somewhere and that needs to be dealt with. 

    These people need to be cut off, now. 

     
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    mousegirl    May 20, 2011   New Mexico/wedding in Asheville NC

    @SimplyChic11: First, as a college instructor, I can believe they tried to talk to your instructors (some people have no boundaries). You should be aware that all college students are covered under FERPA and your instructors should not give out any personal information (grades, attendance, etc). Now, asking the instructor about their general attendance policies would not violate FERPA. Honestly, if someone contacted me about a student, I would send them a polite response saying I can't comment. You might want to visit your instructors during their office hours and ask them what info they did tell your FILs.

    From the situation you describe, I wouldn't attend the wedding if I were in your shoes.

     
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    moara    June 16, 2015  

    Bah! flipping wedding bee ate my post! Yell I think I gave some good advice, so I'll type it all out again.

     

    I think you need to talk to your supervisors. Go to them in a clear and calm frame of mind, and apologise for the actions of your FMIL, so they know that the drama was one sided, and don't assume things about your character. Also ask what they told them, so you know if your FMIL was lying, or if you need to remind you supervisors about the rules regarding talking about students to outsiders.

    I think you could work out a compromise if you wanted to. Tell you FMIL that you didn't realise your attendance at the wedding was so important to her, and that you can't attended the wedding with your own resources, but if they wanted to pay for you to fly out Friday after your last class, and return sunday morning, you'd be able to come. That assumes that none of your classes are on Saturday. If you've got any group projects, you could do your portion ahead of time, so things are still rolling for the group while you're away.

    You shouldn't confuse being the bigger person with being walked all over. In places where you disagree, you need to talk calmly and reasonably and not blame them for asking, but also not give in to what they're demanding when it hurts you to do so.

    If it were me, and my FMIL called to berate me for half an hour, I would say "you can't speak to me in that way. Please call me again when you can discuss this calmly" and then hang up. Repeat as neccessary until she gets the message. You don't owe it to her to listen to whatever she want to say to you. Especially when it's clearly causing you both so much pain.

     
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    My mouth completely dropped open when I read that your FI's parents actually called the faculty at your school. That is extremely disrespectful and embarrassing, and as a fellow university student I am feeling for you. If my SO's parents (or anyone else for that matter) ever did anything like that, I would be absolutely mortified and furious. That is a huge line to cross regarding privacy and appropriateness.

    College is first priority for me as well, and many people don't realize how difficult it is to miss even one class. It really sets you back and can affect your grade greatly. I'm sorry that they are treating you like this :( I'd stay far away, and definitely don't go to that wedding.

     
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    MissCharley85    April 3, 2012   Florida

    I am also in college and I know the effect of missing a day of class. First of all I think you are awesome for going through all of this and doing what you need to do for yourself. His parents may try to be controlling but this is because they do not have any control at all, and they know it. Parents who try to guilt trip and invade your personal life do not need to be a part of your life. I think you should cut off all communication with the parents. This may be hard to do, but if you and your fiance ever want to move to a happier life then it needs to be done. They cannot be reasoned with, you have already tried. I would stay in touch with the part of the family that cares and respects you as a person. You can't teach an old dog new tricks, and these people are clearly past their prime. They will continue this ridiculous behavior for years to come putting stress on your physical and mental health as well as your marriage.

    Stay on the higher road and avoid them like the plague.

     
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    smyley    May 2010  

    My daughter's FIL's went on the attack with her while they were all in the car driving home from the airport. The cowards chose to confront them about their wedding and moving in their house together beforehand, not while they were all seated in the house like adults, but trapped in the car on a busy highway. They were shaken to the core.

    We found out early the next morning, and tried to call them immediately. They wouldn't answer the phone, so we finally left them a message about how disappointed we were in them and how DARE they!!

    They showed up for the wedding, but after the ceremony, and with no prior warning,walked out the back gate and straight to their car and drove off. There has been no contact since.

    If your Mom would like to get involved and have her say, let her. It just might solve all your problems with them.

     
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    SimplyChic11    December 30, 2011  

    You guys are right... they cannot be reasoned with. :( I slept better but woke up earlier than I'd hoped thinking about how horrified I was and how I would be so much more if they tried contacting further profs. I honestly don't know how they got so far, from the head of dept to the professors for my one class. I think the problem starts at the head of department. 

    If they chose to call again, they would either go through this person who so mistakingly gave away my info... or my academic advisor, whom I love and cannot imagine being so confused over some stupid family drama. 

    FH and I did make the decision for me not to go over the way they've been acting. If they merely offered to sort it out with my professors and asked if I wanted them to, that would have been different. Not calling FH up and saying I'm lying because so-and-so and all these people said I could come (probably after they were berated on the phone just like I was)

    They have NO legal standing to do this and I am most certainly mortified! 

    I want to cut them out altogether, at least his parents. My FH is more inclined to keep in touch with them but only at a superficial level. They are his family, as much as they are ridiculous, he will always care for them in some way. 

    I'm glad the 'bee response is overwhelmingly 'do not go' since every few hours I rethink the decision but then realize the crap will not end for us. 

     
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    SimplyChic11    December 30, 2011  

    @mousegirl: I checked out FERPA at my school. Would I have had to sign something previously? Or would I be automatically affected by this privacy act? 

    I'm trying to figure out just how they were able to get all this info. 

     
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    ohheavenlyday    August 20, 2011   Savannah, Georgia

    @SimplyChic11: 

    No, FERPA covers all students, no matter what. It's a federal regulation, you do not opt into it. They probably contacted the teachers (somehow) and asked about their attendance policy, though who knows how they worded their question. "If it was a LIFE OR DEATH MATTER, could she miss class?" probably, or something equally dramatic. Surely if they said "to come to a wedding" there's no way the professors would have indicated that that would be a reasonable excuse to miss class. OR they probably said something to the extent of, "All students are free to choose not to come to class, we can't force them," which is of course true, except for it means you fail, and your FILs took that to mean you could come if you really wanted to. They sound insane. But basically, if they just asked about general attendance policies, that doesn't violate FERPA; FERPA protects the students' personal information and grades and academic record. 

     
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    Miss Longcoat    March 31, 2012   Woodbridge, VA

    This may not be a popular response, but I'm going to ask a simple question.

    If it was okay with your school, would you WANT to go?

    I work at a medical school, and as an academic advisor, can grant all sorts of special leave.  Keep in mind, the student has to have ALL of their work done prior, has to take extra call nights or switch with other students to make sure the floors are covered, but it is entirely possible.  These are medical students, working towards their MD degrees... it doesn't get much more strict than that.

    The reason I'm asking is because right now, this is what has your FILs fired up.  Next year, it might be something else.  They sound like they're always going to try to find fault with you unless you start trying to find your place in the family.  Unfortunately, sometimes that means doing things you don't really want to do in order to fit in.  Is it worth digging your heels in for one weekend when you've got a lifetime with these people?  Just a thought.

     
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    delovelyjenn    October 6, 2012   Arlington, VA

    @ohheavenlyday: I totally agree. I think the FFIL & FMIL did something shady like re-wording the question, lying about the occasion, etc. I would talk to my professors to find out the truth. There is NO WAY the professor were suddenly, "Oh, it's a wedding? Then she can go!"

    @SimplyChic11: I get that FI wants to keep superficial contact. But as a child of a toxic parent, the drama will not end. The best thing is to cut off all contact with an explanation of why, and only allow contact if the parents enter counseling with you two. Also, keep all texts, e-mail, harassing voicemails etc. from them, in case it gets to a serious, crazy level. It's gotten so bad within my own family that we save all of this information, as well as make copies of all letters sent and received from my toxic mother. The woman isn't even allowed to know the date/time of our wedding, just in case.

     
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    mightywombat    June 25, 2011   Massachusetts

    Ugh, I'm so sorry. Hopefully your faculty will understand that this was none of your doing.  I would send them an email apologizing for your FILs behavior, explaining that you they are being completely unreasonable, and emphasizing how committed you are to your classes.

    They sound insane.  It's bad enough when PARENTS try to contact their children's college teachers, but I've never heard of anyone else trying to do so!!  God.  That is so far beyond the bounds of appropriate behavior. And they will never, ever understand that they did anything wrong.

     
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    jujubee421    October 13, 2012   Vermont

    @Miss Longcoat:  But even if she wanted to go - the stunt her FILs pulled has destroyed any chance of that.  In fact, OP already asked originally and was told by the school this was not possible and she discussed it early on.  To suddenly decide a few weeks before the wedding that the original answer is not acceptable isn't fair to OP.  If the school had told her all the steps she had to take to make the wedding, perhaps those steps would have just made her life at school harder, affected her grades, and created more stress.  

    OP- the only suggestion I can offer is that your fiance can go alone - if he wants.  There is no need for you to go- if you go you give a message this sort of behavior is ok.   FI knows his family and maybe having to face them without you may let him discuss frankly with them just how much they are hurting you both and slowly destroying any chance of a relationship in the future. 

     
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    mousegirl    May 20, 2011   New Mexico/wedding in Asheville NC

    @SimplyChic11: What ohheavenlyday wrote is correct. Every student is automatically covered. That's why you had to sign a form for your parents to have access/see your grades. FILs shouldn't have been able to find out whose classes you were in, but even instructors are human and sometimes mistakes happen. That's why I think you should talk to your profs and find out what was said on both sides. Like others have said your FILs may have worded the question so that they got the answer they wanted. It is true, profs can't make anyone attend or participate in class, but all actions have consequences. You've already checked and you aren't comfortable missing classes. Your FH can attend the family wedding, which may (or may not) help smooth things over and again that's a decision he has to make. :) Hang in there!

     
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    SimplyChic11    December 30, 2011  

    Thanks, all. I inted to write a letter to my profs today or at least all the people they have contacted above me. It is a comfort to know that I am under the privacy act because I DO remember signing something for my parents alone freshman year. 

     And I totally agree, who knows what my future family told these people to get the answers they want! It all sounds so shady to me.... I will keep everyone updated and you better believe we have kept and saved all crazy communication from them. 

    -MisssPumpkinB.

     

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