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My FI and I are atheists and my mom was really pushing for a church wedding. Sorry, that ain't happening.
Just try to be firm with them. Have your uncle do the poem but not the bible verse. It's your wedding, not theirs.
:Raises hand sheepishly: My fiance and I are not religious either but his step mother is and I am really tired of the dirty looks. I made the mistake once of bringing up that neither of us are really religious and are more agnostic and you would have thought that I stabbed her. I have had the not in a church fight, not by a minister fight, not having god mentioned in our ceremony fight, you name it, it has come up either with her or my grandmother. At this point I just don't say anything or say we haven't decided. I wish I was bold enough to say we aren't doing this and this is what we are doing but I am too nice. Ultimately, do what you are comfortable with.
I was raised catholic however after high school my parents told me I could make my own decision. I don't believe in god but consider myself very spiritual and if I had ties to one religion it would be Buddhism. I practice Buddhism and my mother still thinks it is weird and that she "can't believe her baby doesn't believe in god!" My SO has a strict Baptist family and although he will go to church sometimes, he does not have a problem with my views nor I with him. I told him I wanted to write our own ceremony and luckily he agrees with a lot of my views that I get from Buddhism and has agreed that it is not a problem for him. However, I am terrified that once we are engaged his family will throw a fit. We will not be getting married in a church nor have any mention of god. There will be drinking and dancing, which was not allowed at his brothers wedding a few years ago.
I guess my point is that it is your day! You two have decided to honor your mother by having the Episcopal ceremony and that is wonderful but it is not you so if you do not want something read from the bible then I say sit down with her and explain that. She may be upset now but I feel like once the wedding day is here and she sees the ceremony and how happy you two are she will be happy for you. It is your day!
Good luck!
My fiance and I are not very religious and my grandmother and his entire family are very religious. They all would like for us to get married in a church (especially my g-ma) but we just decided that this is OUR wedding and we wanted it outside. Luckily our family is still willing to come despite the lack of religion but I would not break on this issue. I'm also making the ceremony very non-religious.
@stellamae: FI's dad is a pastor. I feel your pain. But seriously, this is YOUR wedding, make it reflect your relationship, not your family. Try to put your foot down--I know it can be hard. I think you've done enough by having the Episcopal ceremony.
I think having a non-religious wedding is completely fine. HOWEVER, you did agree to have an Episcopal wedding, which is religious, which means you are agreeing to having scripture read at the wedding. Ours is Methodist and there is no way we could have it without at least one bible reading.
If it bothers you that might, I think you need to re-think the Episcopal ceremony all together and go with a totally awesome non-religious ceremony. But if you are going to cave and do the Episcopal wedding, then yes, that will include readings from the bible. Does that make sense?
thanks for the courage ladies!! Yes, there will be Bible reading.. it's just that i don't want more peopel reading from it... like our guest speaker. Our officiant is actually this young hip Episcopal minister.. but I still don't want too much shoved down our throats.
Thanks Ladies...
See if you can have him reading from the Message Bible. The translation is is more plain language and doesn't feel as stuffy.
Still scritpure and still bible so your families should be pleased but it won't be like the Word "shoved" down your throat.
=)
what about a passage from the Bible that's not explicity "religious," like the "love is patient, love is kind" passage?
but, I also agree, that it's your wedding, and you shouldn't be incorporating things if you don't even believe in them!
We had a secular ceremony, but picked a passage from the bible that love anyway. It's always been a meaningful passage for us, and that the only reason we picked it. I was hoping that it would keep people who were feeling bad about the ceremony not being religious from feeling too bad about it.
The passage was part of "To every thing there is a season and a time to every purpose under heaven." It's not explicitly supernatural.
Funny cause I am religious, and I'm still having these problems. No, I'm not going to have 1 Corinthians 13 at the wedding because IMO it's way overdone.
Yes our wedding scripture is not typical for weddings, but it suits us well.
No I don't want a 20 minute sermon, because I want to just be married and get the party started!
@stellamae: what verse do they want to read from the bible? If it is somthing neutral about love then perhaps it doesnt matter and wont sound too religious? The bible is also studied as piece of literature and not just as a religious book so maybe they can find a verse that isnt too religious?
My mom and I had the big talk about my atheism a couple of years ago. It made her sad, but she told me she respected my ability to think critically and make my own decisions. However, she sometimes makes reference to the fact that I'm "questioning", which makes me think that she still nurses the idea in her breast that this is a temporary leave of my faith.
She suggested a few times that we could get married in her (admittedly beautiful) church. What finally stopped it was when I told her that we felt using a house of worship was plain disrespectful. We didn't believe the doctrine, and so it was rude to just walk through a religious service saying words we didn't mean. Once we turned the issue around as "we're not worthy", the talk of a church wedding died down.
neither one of us are religious and we had nothing pertaining to religion at all at our wedding. I thought I would get some backlash from my parents, but I told them point blank we were not getting married in a church, and they were fine with it. We ended up getting married in a place that has a ton of meaning to my family, so I think that was helpful. Also, we paid for the wedding ourselves
You could also try a passage that isn't from the Bible but that references God. I went with that approach, and it made my mom feel better :). Here's what we're using:
True love ’s the gift which God has given
To man alone beneath the heaven:
It is not fantasy’s hot fire,
Whose wishes soon as granted fly;
It liveth not in fierce desire,
With dead desire it doth not die;
It is the secret sympathy,
The silver link, the silken tie,
Which heart to heart and mind to mind
In body and in soul can bind.
We're having a minister perfom the wedding, but we said we didn't want any Bible readings... so we aren't having one!
Hmm, haven't talked to our minister yet. Now I'm wondering if he's going to take our exit song "I'm a Believer" the wrong way... :D
@honeylemontea: re: Im a believer-- Mountain Man is threatening to sing that at the end of the ceremony portion-- but Im afraid the younger kids will think we are singing from Shrek- and not Neil Diamond.. Which version comes to your mind?
@retreadbride: I respect you, but don't shoot me... I think of Shrek :)
Don't get me wrong, Neil Diamond is awesome. It's HIS song. It's just that FI and I both used to think of ourselves as sad-sack single ogres before we met each other, and we found out we'd both identified with Shrek when we first saw the movie. I kid you not, I BAWLED while I was watching it :D
You go, Mountain Man! :)
@honeylemontea: we just consider ourselves "larger than life" lol
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Ladies.
We (my FI and I) are not super religious. My mother is SUPER religious. We are honoring her in having an Episcopal ceremony. My Uncle is reading one poem.. now they want him to read something from the Bible... My FI and i are not ok with this... are there any NON-relgious brides out there fighting with the religious ties to weddings??