Post # 1
Ok, I’ve wondered this for a long time. I’m sure this will stir up debate but I really just want honest, mature insight.
I consider myself a devout Christian, but I don’t follow the bible 100%. (Ie, I support gay marriage)
Using that as a platform, I always wonder why it’s ok to cite biblical passages that outlaw homosexual actions, yet those same individuals discredit the passages that outlaw seafood, comdemn rebellious children to a death by stoning, and outlaw cutting your hair; among many others. I genuinely don’t understand.
Why is one considered wrong while the others are ok? Doesn’t the bible say they’re all wrong?
Post # 3
@OnceUponATime: I’ve always wondered this too, and while I was raised Catholic, I now consider myself to be agnostic at best. The only time I get my back up is when people preach at me, yet they don’t follow what they preach. In my opinion you can’t, as you say, cherry pick the parts of the faith you like and then ignore the rest…hence why I denounced being Catholic.
I still remember one instance in university when a “devout Christian” was telling everyone else what bad people they were, but then said she has premarital sex with her partner but it’s okay because they pray together after. That one still makes me laugh; I’d love to read that passage. I would consider following Catholicism again if the religion ever opted to modernize itself but until then, I choose to be the best person I can be in my own way.
And isn’t there something about only God will judge in there? 😉 Can’t throw stones when you live in a glass house…
Post # 4
I have always wondered the exact same thing. My dad is very religious, me… well not so much. The one and only time in my adult life I ever recall having a full blown argument with my dad was last year, and it was about marriage equality. He adamantly opposes, while I fully support. He said he disagrees with it because the Bible says it’s wrong, and I asked him why he wears mixed fabrics, divorced my mom and remarried, and tosses a football (skin of a pig) around and all he did was yell and turn red in the face and go off on some homophobic tangent. So, I didn’t really get an answer out of him as to why certain sins are ok, and others are not.
Post # 5
I’ve wondered much the same. There are many examples of passages that I have never heard (and I’ve grown up in church for 20 years) that I’m just now discovering.
I’ve often asked my (devout christian) parents why some things were okay, and others were not, and they reply with “That’s the old testament, not the new! We don’t have to live that way anymore!”. Ooooo…kay…. That’s not how it works.. you can’t pick and choose what you want to be for and against; you either follow all or none.
I’ve read godless by Dan Barker, and it has changed the way I view the bible completely, and not in a good way. I’ve come to realize the contraditions, misrepresentations, and falsities in many parts.
Post # 6
- Wedding: September 2013 - B&B
I consider myself a Christian. I believe that the Bible is a guide! In my opinion, yes Jesus is real and yes God is real, and yes Jesus walked the earth, was risen…
But his gospel was written down by other men and translated about a ton of different ways be other men. I think, upon reading it, there are ongoing messages that are fairly constant: love one another, love Jesus and God, be good to yourself, be good to others, always strive to be a good and decent human being, don’t judge others, be giving of yourself, trust the Lord and work to always have a relationship with him.
I believe in marriage equality, I believe in being pro-choice, and I happen to think that it’s ok if God has a different relationship with all of His children… he made everyone different anyway! If you have a relationship with Jesus and God then that is between you guys. So I have read the bible, and I take general guidance from it, but I do not necessarily take it exact word for exact word.
I’m also a pretty big believer in leading by example, and not shoving my judgements down others’ throats lol. Sounds like you’ve encountered some people who do just that!
Post # 7
I am not Christian, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I’ve asked this same question many times, but what I’ve been told is that the Old Testament was the “contract” that God had with his people originally. However, when Jesus Christ was born, a new set of laws went into effect. Many of the things you hear about (stonings, food laws, clothing laws, etc) are from the Old Testament.
Post # 8
The bible contradicts itself, and everyone cherry pics the bible. Can’t remember the last time I met a christian that was actaully wearing clothing all made of the same weave.
The bible actaully killed my faith for me. Sometimes, if you’re a Christian, go back to what it is Jesus says, some of the rest of it can kind of break your heart. Jesus though, kind of a cool hippie.
Post # 9
I am Christian, but also don’t follow the bible 100%
Post # 10
People who do that are using the Bible as a prop to justify what they want to believe is right and wrong, instead of the other way around. Marriage equality is a prime example; some people have an instinctive aversion to it, and instead of examining their own bias (taking the log out of their own eye, sts), they try and justify their bias by cherry-picking scripture. It’s just moral and intellectual laziness IMO.
I was raised Southern Baptist, but would describe myself as Buddhist today.
Post # 11
@jilleeann: I love your description of Jesus 🙂 That’s kind of how I’ve always thought of him myself!
Post # 12
@geekspice: + a million
Anyone ever read the book Lamb by Christopher Moore? It’s pretty great.
Post # 13
There is a long answer to this and a short answer to this. I’m on my phone so I’ll have to go with the short one.
There are three different types of Old Testament laws- ceremonial, civil, and moral.
The ceremonial laws (those pertaining to worship) were fulfilled by Christ, when he made the ultimate sacrifice for us.
The civil laws were those that governed the nation of Israel, much like our laws govern the US (or whatever country) today.
Then there are the moral laws. These moral laws set forth in the old testament are those that we are still bound to today, and represent the character of God. They include things such as the ten commandments.
That is a very, very short version of why.some laws are followed and others aren’t any longer.
Post # 14
If you are going to say that you can’t pick an choose then you really can’t pick and choose. IF you are going to follow everything in the bible then you really have to follow EVERYTHING
“When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.”
“But if this charge is true, that the girl was not found a virgin, 21 then they shall bring out the girl to the doorway of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death because she has committed an act of folly in Israel, by playing the harlot in her father’s house; thus you shall purge the evil from among you,”
And I’m sure all of the married christian bees follow this one
For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head.
1 Corinthians 11:6
Post # 15
@Sunnyday278: That was always what I believed too…A guide, or metaphorical way, of approaching the bible as opposed to literal. Catholicism advocated a literal approach and I got sick of it! lol
Post # 16
@rachelmichelle: I didn’t know that. That makes sense 🙂