Post # 1
My fiancee is English, and we plan to live here in the US after we’re married. We’re beginning to gather documentation of our relationship in order to file for the K1 visa. However, we just realized that we mostly text via iMessage. We’ve made a deliberate effort to switch to other messaging services which will allow us to view and save our entire messaging history, but our earliest messages are all tied up in iMessage. Has anyone had any success contacting Apple support to gain access to the iMessage history? So far my emails have gone unanswered, and I’m wondering if I’m just contacting the wrong people.
Post # 2
I’m not from the US so I may be basing this off TV shows… but aren’t they practically like P.I’s in trying to prove the relationship real/not real? Perhaps you can tell them this and they will chase it up with Apple… they probably have a better chance of getting an answer.
Post # 3
nessdawwg: haha they probably do have a better chance! Apple support is terrible, at least over here. I’m going to export my Facebook messages…with any luck, there will be enough ‘early’ evidence of our relationship on there. And you’re right about having to prove that it’s real – I just wish I knew how much was enough, to be honest!
Post # 4
ladybennett: Have you gone on visajourney? That was a great resource for us when we were filing for our k1 visa. We had a lot of MSN/skype chats, and I used cards we had sent through the mail. That is just evidence as back up though. The real evidence is that you actually have met, which will be things like stamps in your passports, plane ticket receipts, photos of you two together. If you really need them, you can have people who know you write letters and have them notorized. I really recommend the visajourney website- you can also ask your questions there in the forum and they tell you exactly what to send and everything. I don’t think we would have made it if we hadn’t used that site. I can try to help answer questions too if you want, but honestly, that site is your best bet and you can find someone who will be doing the same country as you. Good luck!
Post # 5
There is a program called tansee that exports all messages and imessages from your iPhone and you can save them on your computer. You need to buy it, but it’s well worth it 🙂
Post # 6
My fiance and I just went through this process (began it in March, 2013… received his visa in December, 2013… getting married in June, 2014). My fiance is from Austria. I provided a RIDICULOUS amount of information. Every birthday card/love letter we had written to each other… pictures of us together… plane tickets from every trip back and forth… and Facebook messages. They barely looked at any of it. My fiance said his interview lasted two minutes and all they did was ask how long we had been together and looked at the financial stuff (affidavit of support… bank statements, etc.) and the statement I made about intending to marry him within 90 days of his arrival.
Obviously, the more information the better… but if you have messages that span the entire relationship and plane tickets, photos, etc. to supplement that, you should be fine. To be honest, I think the fact that my fiance was from a pretty “neutral” country such as Austria (and England for that matter) really made the process go quickly. You can PM me if you have questions! VisaJourney is a great resource!
Post # 7
I literally did every single thing that VisaJourney said to do (which was excessive)… but it worked!
Post # 8
ladybennett: Same boat over here (Fiance is from Canada). Obviously, if you could get the iMessage history, that’d be great but I don’t think it would be a dealbreaker if you can’t.
We included the following in our package: many photos of us together (in different seasons, locations, etc.), photos of us with each other’s friends and family, plane ticket confirmations that spanned 2 years, selected email correspondence, and 3 notarized letters from friends/family. Our visa was approved even without records of all our IMs, texts, etc.
As long as the rest of your package checks out (Which I’m sure it does!), I think you’ll be fine. Are you guys working with an immigration lawyer? I’d recommend having one take a look at all your paperwork before you submit. Best of luck!
Post # 9
kaleidoscope: do you happen to know whether there’s a similar program to transfer messages from whatsapp (on the iPhone) to the computer?
I need it for very different reasons but I’ve basically kept track of my daughter’s development there and it’s an endless pain to try to copy/paste each of the gazillion messages …
good luck to OP! (Im from Germany so don’t have anything helpful to add.)
Post # 10
This is a bit low tech, but can you scroll back and take screen caps on your phone. If you hit the home button and the top button on your iPhone at the same time it’ll take a picture of your screen
Post # 11
First things first: relax! The K1 visa interview is not for the purpose of establishing the length of your relationship. The purpose is to establish that your relationship is “bona fide” aka real. Even if you met last month, but there are passport stamps showing that you’ve visited each other, candid photos hanging out with friends, maybe receipt for engagement ring, that kind of thing. It’s a nice thing to have the iMessage print outs (and screen shots pasted into a word document will work just fine), but absolutely not necessary. Feel free to PM me if you need more information about this.
Post # 12
Although we did the visa to get me from the US to the UK, the processes are more or less the same. They care more about flight history and passport stamps. The rest is just proving that you’ve had some contact in between those times. I too found that there wasn’t much for us, as we communicated mostly through an IM service that has a massive chatlog saved on a notepad, which could be faked with zero effort. Ultimately I took screenshots of my email inbox with all his emails over the years (still not that many nor were they very often), and I had screenshots of our FaceTime log. That’s all I provided on that front, and it wasn’t an issue. As long as you’ve met in person and can prove that (through airline tickets, photos together, etc), then you should be fine.
Post # 13
Thank you all so much for the advice and reassurance! VisaJourney looks like an amazing resource, thanks so much for the recommendation. We’ll be working with a lawyer. I’m just concerned about having enough evidence because we’re planning to file without my having visited her in the UK. To make a long and complicated story short, she is currently living with family so we can save money. Because of a relative’s Alzheimer’s, we decided that it would be unduly stressful for them if I were to visit, stay over in their house, and then basically up and disappear after a few weeks. So, my fiancee is the one who has been doing all of the traveling. However, my family adores her and she’s met all of my friends, with pictures to prove it! I’m really reassured to know that we’re in good shape in terms of documentation of our relationship.
Thanks so much for your encouragement 🙂